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          Fredfredbug4 
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        Posted - 2014.02.12 16:05:00 -
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          You wont be allowed in. Only a fool would trust a Goon. A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history. Only a CFC alliance will accept you in their space
  The only way you'll visit Amarrian space is if you turn yourself in. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
          Eve Defence Force Cult of War
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        Posted - 2014.02.12 16:15:00 -
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          Claudia Osyn wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:You wont be allowed in. Only a fool would trust a Goon. A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history. Only a CFC alliance will accept you in their space
  The only way you'll visit Amarrian space is if you turn yourself in.  Drat. I really wanted to go sight-seeing too...  
  I dont believe you've affiliated yourself with Goon filth before. You'll be allowed in unless there are other reasons not to let you in. Cant be as bad as being a Goon though! Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
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        Posted - 2014.02.12 17:43:00 -
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          Sofia Roseburn wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:You wont be allowed in. Only a fool would trust a Goon. A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history. Only a CFC alliance will accept you in their space
  The only way you'll visit Amarrian space is if you turn yourself in.  The irony here is just...wow.  
  Do explain, please. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
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        Posted - 2014.02.12 22:29:00 -
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          Sofia Roseburn wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote:
  Do explain, please.
  It isn't YC 107/108 any more. That corporation you're in? It's on that same list that you're so quick to put the CFC on. Has been for the past 5 or 6 years.   The situation is very different. My corporation was betrayed by Goonswarm you see. Thats how filthy these people are. Backstabbing those loyal to them is not only allowed, it's encouraged. We werent some bunch of nobodies either, at that time we were considered one of the best combat corporations in the cluster.
  The search for a new home was hard, yet we proved to be better than our traitors and so we are on the rise again.
  We know how wretched these people are more than anyone. We flew with them and they punished us for it. We have more reason to hate these scumbags than anyone.
  Now we must see them destroyed. If they achieve total victory they will wipe each other out. If we win, then we shall put VK to the torch and drag The Mitanni by his hair through the dirt in the streets. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
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        Posted - 2014.02.12 22:43:00 -
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          Sofia Roseburn wrote:Not really. There's more to EDF's history than their stint with Goonswarm.  
  You mean starting off as one of the first dedicated anti-piracy corporations? Or always joining the underdogs in a conflict?
  Seriously, in the grand battle of good versus evil, EDF has always sided with good. To explain the case with Goonswarm I must cite an ancient proverb, "you either die a hero, or live to see yourself become the villain."
  Goonswarm were originally underdogs trying to survive against the might of Band of Brothers. This was when they were the heroes, and when we joined. Then they became tyrants who seek to control all of Null and heavily influence low and high. This is when they became the villains and when they betrayed us.
  Do keep pretending you know more about the history of a corporation than one of it's active members. This is quite funny. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
          Eve Defence Force Cult of War
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        Posted - 2014.02.13 16:52:00 -
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          Leopold Caine wrote:Fredfredbug4 wrote: The situation is very different. My corporation was betrayed by Goonswarm you see. Thats how filthy these people are. 
  Well, I believe you best said it yourself: Fredfredbug4 wrote:A CFC alliance or corp is a permanent cancer on your enployment history...  By your own words, due to your CFC involvement, you are permanently tainted. Asking for swift destruction of everything barely related to CFC and acting as a penitent regarding the same don't really work hand-in-hand, mr. Fred.   
  I never said it wasn't a cancer for us. The reason why we had trouble finding another alliance to join after we were screwed over was because we had Goonswarm taint on us. Nobody would take us because of that horrid tumor. I think we can speak for ourselves how nobody wants a former goon, we experienced it first hand.
  A wise man took pity on us and we were able to prove ourselves again. This was our chemo. This cured us. We seak to administer this cure to the rest of null, by force if necessary.
  Anyone other self proclaimed experts on a co
 
 Alizabeth Vea wrote:Sometimes I wonder if Freddy even listens to the words that come out of his mouth. This is why I don't use boosters anymore.  
  Now, now. Go run back to your corner of insignificance please. You can pretend you are important there. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
          Eve Defence Force Cult of War
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        Posted - 2014.02.13 17:12:00 -
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          Claudia Osyn wrote: Um, Fred, I don't want to be an alarmist, but you're starting to sound like Daina Kim.
  
  I suppose I do. However unlike her, I have a personal vendetta against Goons rather than a prejudiced hatred. 
  And even still, my demeanor isn't as hostile as the text would imply. The hyperbolic nature is really just to get under their skin. Im not pounding furiously into my neocom with bushed eyebrows, a red face, and seething teeth and then going outside to kick puppies when I'm finished. Merely writing what would agitate a Goon.
  Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
          Eve Defence Force Cult of War
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        Posted - 2014.02.14 02:47:00 -
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          I will give the Goons credit where it is due, the cluster could not have asked for a better villain. No single entity in the galaxy can be both hated by everyone, yet admired by everyone all the same. 
  They still have to go though, don't get me wrong. 
  However, a major power rarely falls and disappears. It usually splits off into many different factions. The CFC is a coalition, made up of alliances, made up of corporations, made up of capsuleers. Whether they win or lose, there is no way that so many diverse groups of people with differing interest can exist without a hitch. Look at what happened to the Federation. The Caldari split off and we lost roughly a third of our country as a result. 
  One screw up, and it's all over for the Goons. Mathematically, philosophically, and what ever "ly" you can think of, gaurantees it will happen eventually. And when it does, I and many others will relish that day. 
  Additionally, everyone likes to back up the underdogs. Watching someone who always wins is boring. The side that has to struggle and fight against all odds makes for the better story. The Goons will never truly win because there will always be resistance, if only for the sake of resisting. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
          Eve Defence Force Cult of War
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        Posted - 2014.02.17 05:09:00 -
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          Isus Jarode wrote:
  And keep in mind the history of Goonswarm: they have experienced schisms in the past. They rose, clashed against their great foe, stood victorious, and grew bulbous from their spoils. They grew slack from comforts. They collapsed upon themselves, had to rebuild, start fresh. And now they have returned from the ashes. Whose to say that they will ever die? Even if you wiped out every present and former Goon their ideal would survive, their lifestyle would infect others. Goonswarm will not only survive, they shall always return and thrive. 
 
 
  
  People said the same about Band of Brothers. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
      
          
          Fredfredbug4 
          Eve Defence Force Cult of War
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        Posted - 2014.02.25 20:06:00 -
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          BPTrader wrote:Lyris Nairn i'm considering to third party your interest on visiting providence without being molested. Send me 5 billion isk and i will def. make your goals succesfull.  
  This guy is scamming, send me the money instead and after a month of peaceful visiting in providence it will not only be returned, but doubled! Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! | 
      
      
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