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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:08:00 -
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Let's imagine 11 bruisers, with baseball bats, axes, knives and all kinds of other blunt/edged weapons descend upon a minor, - toothless, without arms and a lame leg. He can't run, he can't fight back, all he can do is scream incoherently hoping someone in the local community will hear and help.
The outcome is, predictable. The minor is beaten/hacked/smashed into a bloody pulp. Visual image of biomass or pod goo.
Why would anyone participating in that fight (in this case, two of the agressors), comment with "GF".
What about that single fight deserved merit of being a "good fight" ? Can someone explain me this. It wouldn't be bad if he said "good slaugher" or "good gank" or "good wtfpwn", those would seem fitting, but.. "good fight", really?
This isn't a whine, or so-called tears. It's a question of what deserves the merit of a good fight, asking the community.
I put it in this section because I can't seem to find a good fit for it anyplace else. |
Effect One
Vengeful Swan
112
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:13:00 -
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'GF' in Eve is akin to a 'lol' in casual text chat. It is a worthless, meaningless acknowledgement (in this case that someone got exploded).
Nothing more, nothing less.
'EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay' - CCP Rise |
Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
35
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:18:00 -
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So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
26
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:32:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking.
yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
120
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:35:00 -
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Agondray wrote:Sylphy wrote:So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking. yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic
If I felt about eve the way you feel about eve - I would play my x-box or maybe subscribe to barbies online. If you hate it so much..... |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
396
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:46:00 -
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Not sure what some of these other posts are, but when I GF in local, its exactly what it means. Good fight. When I win, when I lose. Mostly, its just a mutual courtesy from both parties acknowledging no hard feelings or tears.
In your case, if you are talking about a gank, they are trolling you. They wanted you to do exactly what you did, which is come into the hornets nest and post about it, or cry in local.
The best thing you can do after getting ganked? GF back. They wont have much to go on if you do that, and you may find that some of them are actually very helpful once you prove your not a crybaby. After I gank missioners, if they are cool about it, I advise them of what they could have done better, what they could have looked out for, ect. Sometimes I even give them a chance to join up and actually PLAY EVE rather than shoot red crosses.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
148
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:46:00 -
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Effect One wrote:'GF' in Eve is akin to a 'lol' in casual text chat. It is a worthless, meaningless acknowledgement (in this case that someone got exploded).
Nothing more, nothing less.
I would agree. It's also a good indication that you understand game mechanics and generally don't care that you lost a ship.
For people that feed on tears it's a good indication that the target will either stonewall or make light of the situation which means they may be interesting to talk to socially.
An immediate private convo, or bitching in local is essentially throwing blood in the water around feeding sharks. They now havee incentive to come back and eat here again. As it was delicious. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
712
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:07:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking.
It is for the same reason the guy in mcdonalds says "have a nice day" even though he doesn't give a ****.
It is called politeness. Even ganks take time to set up and miners have ways to avoid them.
stop being churlish and just GF in local.
Money at its root is a form of rationing.
When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
850
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:07:00 -
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When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship".
everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
Paul Tsukaya
Tsukaya Light Industries
68
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:46:00 -
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Sometimes it's said seriously, sometimes people are just trolling though.
If it's the later and you're posting this thread, then they accomplished the desired effect  |
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Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:47:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship".
Care to elaborate? |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
400
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:58:00 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship". Care to elaborate?
Elaborate what? Its a complete thought as-is.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:04:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Elaborate what? Its a complete thought as-is.
What's the relevance though? |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
401
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:09:00 -
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That saying "GF" to your opponent is just like saying "Good game" to the opposing team after you play. Being a good sport... sportsmanship...
Better?
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1692
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:10:00 -
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i will GF for an actual fight.
No need to GF someone you exploded in your gatecamp or caught with their pants down.
"CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:12:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:That saying "GF" to your opponent is just like saying "Good game" to the opposing team after you play. Being a good sport... sportsmanship...
Better?
That's just a repeat of what he said. Forget that I asked. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
2433
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:41:00 -
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I am of the opinion that failure to acknowledge your opponent is what truly constitutes poor sportsmanship.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Pew Terror
Green Associates
59
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:43:00 -
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I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
401
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:46:00 -
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Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed"
Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring".
Yikes.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Winchester Steele
333
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:03:00 -
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Agondray wrote:Sylphy wrote:So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking. yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic
Lol. Your an angry little sperglord arent you? Maybe Eve isn't the right game for you?
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Pew Terror
Green Associates
60
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:27:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring". Yikes.
GF |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
3519
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:33:00 -
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There are appropriate times to say GF, and inappropriate ones.
Generally, if the victim says GF, it is impolite to not return the GF.
If you feel the fight was in good sportsmanship (win or lose), saying GF is appropriate.
The truth is, fights happen in EvE when both sides believe they can win, and just because the end result was you getting curbstomped did not negate it being a gf.
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
401
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:46:00 -
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Pew Terror wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring". Yikes. GF
GF
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Christine Peeveepeeski
Rodents of Unusual Size
501
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:51:00 -
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I say GF 90% of the time, i only don't bother if it was a plex farmer that died.
I do it out of habit from the days I played freelancer. |
Pew Terror
Green Associates
60
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:32:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring". Yikes. GF GF
<3 |
Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:59:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
If you feel the fight was in good sportsmanship (win or lose), saying GF is appropriate.
OK, let's say we have a 1v1 frig fight and you blow me up. I say nothing. Why is that inappropriate? Honest question. |
Hannibal Carlisle
Black Storm Cartel
Blackguard Mercenaries
3
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:08:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Not sure what some of these other posts are, but when I GF in local, its exactly what it means. Good fight. When I win, when I lose. Mostly, its just a mutual courtesy from both parties acknowledging no hard feelings or tears.
In your case, if you are talking about a gank, they are trolling you. They wanted you to do exactly what you did, which is come into the hornets nest and post about it, or cry in local.
The best thing you can do after getting ganked? GF back. They wont have much to go on if you do that, and you may find that some of them are actually very helpful once you prove your not a crybaby. After I gank missioners, if they are cool about it, I advise them of what they could have done better, what they could have looked out for, ect. Sometimes I even give them a chance to join up and actually PLAY EVE rather than shoot red crosses.
Much the same here. If I derp into a gate camp I hope to take one with me as I die, but still 'gf' either way. Eve is eve. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2035
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:00:00 -
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Saying 'GF' after a gank means you respect the mark's capability to get their pod out safely. If they are still in local, it's not a total victory.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Donovan Draknevov
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:06:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring". Yikes.
Dammit you made me shoot Quafe out of my nose.
On topic, I say GF nowadays. Usually I'm getting blown up, but I still shoot 'em a message. Hell, this is an example of one of the times I got blapped. Now, if I get gate-camped, or suddenly dropped upon and completely annihilated by The Blob (TM), I'll probably not say GF because there was no fight. It was a massacre. However, it's Eve. A video game. I'll probably just say something like "Damn, ya got me good."
Trust in the Rust |
Demerius Xenocratus
Kill for Gold Brotherhood.
2
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Posted - 2014.02.13 03:26:00 -
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There is a difference between a fight and an execution. |
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Lenroc Elisav
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
8
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Posted - 2014.02.13 10:00:00 -
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Batelle wrote:i will GF for an actual fight.
No need to GF someone you exploded in your gatecamp or caught with their pants down.
I actually GF even then but what I mean is "good ****". Meh, not really i'm just kidding  . |
Esha Ditrix
The Walking Dead.
68
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Posted - 2014.02.13 10:11:00 -
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Agondray wrote: The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic
you do realise that using that old statment in 2014 says more about your own intellect then the people your trying to smear ?
Its not an exploit, if the game lets you do it... |
Alice Ituin
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
51
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Posted - 2014.02.13 11:21:00 -
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I only GF if there was some sort of fighting, meaning either the other party was looking for PvP or at least shot back. Doesn't matter if he had a chance or not.
However when I e.g. just shoot someone's industrial at a gate I don't GF. |
Etuura Zellis
Scarlet Corsairs
47
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Posted - 2014.02.13 11:26:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:Let's imagine 11 bruisers, with baseball bats, axes, knives and all kinds of other blunt/edged weapons descend upon a minor, - toothless, without arms and a lame leg. He can't run, he can't fight back, all he can do is scream incoherently hoping someone in the local community will hear and help.
The outcome is, predictable. The minor is beaten/hacked/smashed into a bloody pulp. Visual image of biomass or pod goo.
Why would anyone participating in that fight (in this case, two of the agressors), comment with "GF".
What about that single fight deserved merit of being a "good fight" ? Can someone explain me this. It wouldn't be bad if he said "good slaugher" or "good gank" or "good wtfpwn", those would seem fitting, but.. "good fight", really?
This isn't a whine, or so-called tears. It's a question of what deserves the merit of a good fight, asking the community.
I put it in this section because I can't seem to find a good fit for it anyplace else.
Maybe they meant "Get F*****" |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
943
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Posted - 2014.02.13 11:39:00 -
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I say gf out of habit and simply to acknowledge that some pew took place. A tip of my hat to my defeated or victorious opponent, so to speak.
No trolling please |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
122
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Posted - 2014.02.13 14:37:00 -
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Typically if there is an actual real good fight i will type 'that was awesome' in local. Actual good fights don't happen every day, so if I'm not in a fresh clone in empire I'll take the time to tyupe how happy I really am. I'll gf in local if the other guy does just to be polite. Most times I say nothing. Some guys take the GF in a bad way after they lose, so I just move on. I like to win as much as the next guy and I'm a little short on sympathy, but then again I don't get off on tears so much.
For folks trying to figure it all out - I'll say this. If you want to be a nice guy - do it. If you want to be a D0uch3 and extract some tears - do it. That's really the point of this game. We're all role playing space pilots (the actual space pilots playing eve is prolly a low number) - do whatever feels right. There really isn't a right answer in eve. What you do determines who you hang out with and who hates you for life. I've got some of both over the years and loved every minute of it.
TL - relax, enjoy |
Kimo Khan
Novum Matutinus
Interstellar ConVicts
144
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Posted - 2014.02.13 15:39:00 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
If you feel the fight was in good sportsmanship (win or lose), saying GF is appropriate.
OK, let's say we have a 1v1 frig fight and you blow me up. I say nothing. Why is that inappropriate? Honest question.
Inappropriate no, un-sportsman more likely.
Why do we say please and thank you..... social convention.
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Cannibal Kane
My Little Ponies of the Apocalypse
Cannibal Empire
3276
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Posted - 2014.02.13 15:58:00 -
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I never do a GF in local. Unless they do so first.
Reason being is that the fight is always skewed in my favor because that is how I planned it.
"I saw him fight by the monument in Jita. He flowed in his Machariel like a Shinto spirit, 800MM shells sprouting in his passing. His hair flowed in the corona of his target's warp core breach. It was truly majestic. And while everyone stared in awe I stole the loot and ran off. Because I am like that." - NEONOVUS |
Starrakatt
Hunter Killers.
Forsaken Asylum
51
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:29:00 -
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I do not always GF in Local, when it's a straight gank I may o7 before going may way (or pod). You could call that trolling if you will, but I am usually mr. nice guy with targets, unless they start abusing Local.
Now, I use different levels of GF.
'gf' with or without salute goes for a one sided kill but where the target(s) at least tried to fight back, there is hope for these people.
I am also a firm believer that a draw deserves a GF, either me or target managing to disengage if overwhelmed. Yes it happens.
GF, GF! sometimes followed up by a salute or small chat. Reserved for real fights, where targets were pvp fit and/or gave an awesome account of themselves even with a PVE fit. Not rare for me, as I often hunt bigger fish in frigates.
GJ or 'well played' or 'good catch' are not uncommon either. depends of situation. I do agree with the OP though, GFing a gank is pure trolling. Now, I never do that. Instead, I ask fleet mates to do it, got to polish that 'mr. nice guy' image... :P
o7 |
Dreadeye
Sanctuary of Shadows
Black Ops Armada
17
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Posted - 2014.02.13 16:47:00 -
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It might be a good fight and there for a GF is appropriate. Its not easy to define a good fight, there can be a lot of criteria to a good fight, and thus it should be the involved parties that should decided if its a good fight. Your fleet could be welped but it could be a good fight anyway.
you can put GF as respect to thoose you fought - the gentlemen GF.
however if you ganked someone that didnt fight back a GF is kind of ironic., if you still have the urge to acknowledge the fight somehow then put a GG(Good Gank) in local instead - you ganked them and it was good  then wait for the tears |
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Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
1181
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Posted - 2014.02.13 19:31:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:I never do a GF in local. Unless they do so first.
Reason being is that the fight is always skewed in my favor because that is how I planned it.
To me that preparation is part of the fight. The fight didn't start when F1 was pressed. The fight started back in the station when we all fit our ships and then undocked.
I always 'gf' in local with two exceptions. I don't typically do it on my suicide gank alt. We have New Order speak for that. And I don't usually gf in wormholes because that means talking in local eewww.
I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose. |
Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
3523
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Posted - 2014.02.13 20:00:00 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
If you feel the fight was in good sportsmanship (win or lose), saying GF is appropriate.
OK, let's say we have a 1v1 frig fight and you blow me up. I say nothing. Why is that inappropriate? Honest question.
If you feel the fight was in good sportsmanship (win or lose), saying GF is appropriate.
If I feel the fight was in goods sportsmanship, I'll say gf.
If I feel the fight wasn't in good sportsmanship, I'll keep quite: Example, blowing up a rookie ship that landed in my bubble.
Realize different people have their own opinion on what constitutes good sportsmanship. Is hunting buffalo with rifles good sportmanship? Is clubbing baby seals? Is it about the hunt, or about the chase, or about the fight? Is it about the risks to yourself?
I tend to believe GF's are fights where you and yours risk loss, or where there is a valiant chase / fight for survival.
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Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2041
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Posted - 2014.02.13 22:03:00 -
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Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
To me that preparation is part of the fight. The fight didn't start when F1 was pressed. The fight started back in the station when we all fit our ships and then undocked.
Exactly.
Or in the case of shooting a miner, the PVP started when the asteroid was first touched by the miner, both denying access to that resource to other miners and leading to increased market supply - hence decreased prices - for that ore.
Mining barges are very good at that sort of PVP, and Catalysts are a good counter to them. Just as the Arazu and Lachesis are very good at 1v1 spaceship combat PVP but are countered hard by drone boats.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Angelica Dreamstar
Epic Boo Bees
486
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Posted - 2014.02.14 12:04:00 -
[44] - Quote
If people think it's mandatory to say it, then one shouldn't say it.
EVE ONLINE: The universe is ours!- Join the Epic Boo Bees! (RP,PvE/PvP,wardecs,new players!)You are at it from day 0! |
Brink Albosa
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
15
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:05:00 -
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I've always considered "gf" a courtesy in lowsec. Some guys go 20+ jumps and see nothing so it's like a salute to the hunt, an appreciation for letting me shoot you/ each other. Win or lose I'll drop gf in local. I've used in jest as well when something like an E Uni blob is able to grab me and there's like 25+ pilots on my Rifter lossmail.
I always gf unless:
Links were used
ECM
Your combat or attack frig has a cloak/stabs on it and you're there for the LP (Unless they whine, then I gf) |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
416
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:08:00 -
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Brink Albosa wrote:I always gf unless:
Links were used
ECM
Why? There are ways to beat both, although ill agree trying to kill someone with boosts/drugs can be hellahard.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Brink Albosa
Black Rebel Rifter Club
The Devil's Tattoo
15
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:12:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Brink Albosa wrote:I always gf unless:
Links were used
ECM
Why? There are ways to beat both, although ill agree trying to kill someone with boosts/drugs can be hellahard.
True, but I forgot to mention I usually fly solo. Ladar Sensor Compensation V was probably a waste.  |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
416
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Posted - 2014.02.14 15:17:00 -
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Brink Albosa wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Brink Albosa wrote:I always gf unless:
Links were used
ECM
Why? There are ways to beat both, although ill agree trying to kill someone with boosts/drugs can be hellahard. True, but I forgot to mention I usually fly solo. Ladar Sensor Compensation V was probably a waste.
Ah. Touche`.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Kyrik Vaster
House of Carrikk
0
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Posted - 2014.02.14 18:14:00 -
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I always post it in local after they failed in their gank attempt. |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
418
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Posted - 2014.02.14 20:38:00 -
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Kyrik Vaster wrote:I always post it in local after they failed in their gank attempt.
Well, since you just painted a target on yourself, will you still GF after a successful gank too?
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Divine Entervention
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
22
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Posted - 2014.02.14 21:50:00 -
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I'll only say "gf" if it's an actually good fight.
If it's just a stomp, one way or the other, I say "good show". |
Trevor Dalech
Novum Matutinus
Interstellar ConVicts
27
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Posted - 2014.02.15 07:11:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:Let's imagine 11 bruisers, with baseball bats, axes, knives and all kinds of other blunt/edged weapons descend upon a minor, - toothless, without arms and a lame leg. He can't run, he can't fight back, all he can do is scream incoherently hoping someone in the local community will hear .
You are equating in game violence with real life violence, this is wrong. It's a game...
I once played chess against a grand master, predictably I got out maneuvered at every turn, my pieces got slaughtered, and after 15 moves I resigned. We shook hands and told each other "good game".
You're playing a game and someone beat you at it, not only would it be good sportsmanship to say "good fight" afterwards, its rather rude if you completely ignore your opponent and stay silent. |
VegasMirage
Side Effects.
Serious Space Holding Alliance
1471
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Posted - 2014.02.15 11:45:00 -
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I use:
gf - means anti-climatic expected ending
gf o/ - means was nice 1v1 or 2v1 that ended unexpectedly, would do it again see you shortly
o ..i.. - means exactly that, your bad tarp didn't work out for you
lolz - means you're bad, but funny bad
ur bad - means you should biomass the character and start again, you have no way to improve from your game style
In solo or small gang, anybody using a cloaked falcon, stabbed remote repper, cloaked "suddenly atron" fleet is "bad"
gf is reserved for people deserving of another chance to fight, once you decloak your links, falcons, RR and your backup gang arrives late... you get the "ur bad"
and you should really feel really really bad. The kind of bad that makes your mom hate you.
no more games... it's real this time!!! |
Eranicus II
Aggressive Diplomacy
31
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Posted - 2014.02.16 16:42:00 -
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For me it depends on the situation, ill GF only if fights involved those who shoot back whether we win or not.
I wont generally GF when i gank miners or haulers since I have chosen the vulnerable ship to destroy and I am basing my actions on other factors like bling on their ships or the age of the character for implants dmg.
I will congratulate those who survived my attack based on their defensive capabilities though, but I wont GF if it was a mining ship or hauler.
Also I am not a follower of james 315 RP, so paying them will not stop me from ganking them, not my play style. |
Jasmine Panzer
State War Academy
Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2014.02.17 18:41:00 -
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I'm in the 'always put a gf in local' group.
I guess to me, what it really means is 'whatever just happened, I'm grateful that you, my opponent(s) are human'. Because shooting rocks or red crosses is certain death by boredom!
Depending on the situation, I may then add further comments like 'awesome fight!' or 'what were you thinking, bringing just TWO griffins to assist against a scary lone destroyer?!'. :) |
Kenrailae
Mind Games.
Suddenly Spaceships.
231
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Posted - 2014.02.18 05:17:00 -
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'GF' in local after a fight is a requirement in my book. Even if it was a gank, it's similar to the whole 'We who are about to die salute you' thing from the Roman Colosseum.
Sometimes it's sincere, sometimes it's an acknowledgement to who you just killed for providing the kill for you, and sometimes it's a 'Get ****ed' to the D in local who just Dishonour bird you.
Yeah, that's right, 'Dishonour' for maximum Space Honor's.
The Law is a point of View |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
1283
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Posted - 2014.02.18 09:50:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:Let's imagine 11 bruisers, with baseball bats, axes, knives and all kinds of other blunt/edged weapons descend upon a minor, - toothless, without arms and a lame leg. He can't run, he can't fight back, all he can do is scream incoherently hoping someone in the local community will hear and help.
The outcome is, predictable. The minor is beaten/hacked/smashed into a bloody pulp. Visual image of biomass or pod goo.
Why would anyone participating in that fight (in this case, two of the agressors), comment with "GF".
What about that single fight deserved merit of being a "good fight" ? Can someone explain me this. It wouldn't be bad if he said "good slaugher" or "good gank" or "good wtfpwn", those would seem fitting, but.. "good fight", really?
This isn't a whine, or so-called tears. It's a question of what deserves the merit of a good fight, asking the community.
I put it in this section because I can't seem to find a good fit for it anyplace else.
GF you dispose for people that are not childish whining that you ganked them. It means.. we won, but we respect you because you are taking it as a man not as a child.
We will post GF for anyone that TRIED to fight back and did not just cried like a baby, in effect to any REAL eve player.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
Market and Contract PVP
326
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Posted - 2014.02.18 09:54:00 -
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Aggressor GF = Good Fight
Losing party GF = Get ******
2 different things, learn the difference.
I am the Zodiac, I am the stars,
You are the sorceress, my priestess of Mars,
Queen of the night, swathed in satin black,
Your ivory flesh upon my torture rack. |
Valleria Darkmoon
Heretic Army
Heretic Initiative
196
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Posted - 2014.02.19 11:59:00 -
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The GF after most fights reminds me of the description of a Chaos Lord from the most recent Warriors of Chaos book for Warhammer. Paraphrased it says the Lord is an unfeeling killing machine who will fight anything he can get a hold of to prove himself, those that flee are run down, those that stand are briefly saluted before being hacked down where they stand.
For me the "GF" is a lot like the brief salute, I don't give it after running down someone who wants nothing more than to run but I will GF anyone who fights back. |
Ristlin Wakefield
Pentag Blade
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
401
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Posted - 2014.02.19 15:31:00 -
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As an FC I call for my fleet to give the opponent "gf" in local if they fought us, regardless of the outcome.
With fleet fights, its often very easy to simply run and leave a few behind to get picked off. While most people will be happy to score a few easy kills, I get most fun out of actual large-scale combat. Raw, 40+ minute fights. When an opponent is willing to do that, I am beyond elated. It's the reason why I log into EVE.
I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |
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hydraSlav
Synergy Evolved
30
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Posted - 2014.02.19 19:43:00 -
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All it means is that it was done for fun with the side initiating the "gf" comment implying "no hard feelings".
If the "loser" types "gf" too, he is acknowledging he was caught fair and square (nothing about the fight being fair or not) and also has "no hard feeling", realizing that EvE is primarily game of (pack of) cat(s) and mouse.
With both parties exchanging "gf", the two parties part amicably.
When one party does not share a "gf", we end up with this
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Lugia3
Emerald Inc.
844
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:02:00 -
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When FCing, I generally try not to GF after barge kills. I will always GF a combat ship, however.
"CCP Dolan is full of ****." - CCP Bettik |
Chimay
Release The Kraken Architecture
11
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:15:00 -
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I always state GF, it's good sportsmanship even if a majority of my encounters lately are those with tons of logi alts to come save their hide. Better then nothing, i'll take it. |
Hrett
Justified Chaos
340
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Posted - 2014.02.19 21:30:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:Let's imagine 11 bruisers, with baseball bats, axes, knives and all kinds of other blunt/edged weapons descend upon a minor, - toothless, without arms and a lame leg. He can't run, he can't fight back, all he can do is scream incoherently hoping someone in the local community will hear and help.
The outcome is, predictable. The minor is beaten/hacked/smashed into a bloody pulp. Visual image of biomass or pod goo.
Why would anyone participating in that fight (in this case, two of the agressors), comment with "GF".
What about that single fight deserved merit of being a "good fight" ? Can someone explain me this. It wouldn't be bad if he said "good slaugher" or "good gank" or "good wtfpwn", those would seem fitting, but.. "good fight", really?
This isn't a whine, or so-called tears. It's a question of what deserves the merit of a good fight, asking the community.
I put it in this section because I can't seem to find a good fit for it anyplace else.
GF can be used just like the word "F***" is used. It can mean many many different things depending on the inflection, verve, situation and amount of spittle expelled when saying it.
I'm probably typing on an iPad, which means the auto-correct is silly and fixing typos is a pain. I ain't fixing them. |
Bane Nucleus
Sky Fighters
1001
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Posted - 2014.02.20 01:25:00 -
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You once caught a miner in a belt
He was right at 0 so he's easy to melt
The good fight was given
His anger hath risen
The tears in local showed how sad he felt
No trolling please |
djentropy Ovaert
Crazy Bird Inc.
141
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Posted - 2014.02.20 02:32:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:Let's imagine 11 bruisers, with baseball bats, axes, knives and all kinds of other blunt/edged weapons descend upon a minor, - toothless, without arms and a lame leg. He can't run, he can't fight back, all he can do is scream incoherently hoping someone in the local community will hear and help.
The outcome is, predictable. The minor is beaten/hacked/smashed into a bloody pulp. Visual image of biomass or pod goo.
Why would anyone participating in that fight (in this case, two of the agressors), comment with "GF".
What about that single fight deserved merit of being a "good fight" ? Can someone explain me this. It wouldn't be bad if he said "good slaugher" or "good gank" or "good wtfpwn", those would seem fitting, but.. "good fight", really?
This isn't a whine, or so-called tears. It's a question of what deserves the merit of a good fight, asking the community.
I put it in this section because I can't seem to find a good fit for it anyplace else.
Because this is not 11 people with bats, axes, knives and other assorted weapons beating a defenseless human being. That kind of behavior is deplorable, and in most of the world behavior like this will result in law enforcement taking notice.
This is a video game about exploding internet spaceships.
You're comparing apples to kittens here, dude.
Giving a "GF" in local is kinda a custom - it shows that you are not one of those psychopaths who gets all rage filled and butthurt after their internet spaceship detonates. It shows that you are classy. It's kinda like a "Lol, you got me!" or a "Thanks for the content!" or "Well, that just happened!" sort of thing.
Myself - I use it as a check of the character of the people who detonated me, or who I just detonated. If they call "GF" after a battle, they tend to be the kind of people that I respect. if they start cursing me out, acting crazy, telling me they will show up at my house and kill my mother - then they get added to the "do everything you can do to make this characters life as difficult as possible" list. It's a fun way to know who to target to mine the most valuable resource in Eve: rage and tears.
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Tarojan
Tarojan Corporation
4
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Posted - 2014.02.20 07:47:00 -
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If I go to the effort of mining aligned on my venture and spamming Dscan for probes, warping out when a cata appears in my belt/I spot combat drones, I think thats worth a GF. Hey that gives me an idea! I'm gonna go practise scanning down AFk macks with my merlin. No warping to belt, it will be warps to zero! Might as well learn to player skills while my character learns how to fly.. |
Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
6299
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Posted - 2014.02.20 20:34:00 -
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One time bump to fix forum. |
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