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Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
35
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:08:00 -
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Let's imagine 11 bruisers, with baseball bats, axes, knives and all kinds of other blunt/edged weapons descend upon a minor, - toothless, without arms and a lame leg. He can't run, he can't fight back, all he can do is scream incoherently hoping someone in the local community will hear and help.
The outcome is, predictable. The minor is beaten/hacked/smashed into a bloody pulp. Visual image of biomass or pod goo.
Why would anyone participating in that fight (in this case, two of the agressors), comment with "GF".
What about that single fight deserved merit of being a "good fight" ? Can someone explain me this. It wouldn't be bad if he said "good slaugher" or "good gank" or "good wtfpwn", those would seem fitting, but.. "good fight", really?
This isn't a whine, or so-called tears. It's a question of what deserves the merit of a good fight, asking the community.
I put it in this section because I can't seem to find a good fit for it anyplace else. |
Effect One
Vengeful Swan
112
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:13:00 -
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'GF' in Eve is akin to a 'lol' in casual text chat. It is a worthless, meaningless acknowledgement (in this case that someone got exploded).
Nothing more, nothing less.
'EVE is a game about spaceships and there's an enormous amount of work to do on the in-space gameplay before players (or developers) are ready to sacrifice it for a totally new type of gameplay' - CCP Rise |
Sylphy
TSOE Po1ice
TSOE Consortium
35
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:18:00 -
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So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking. |
Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries
VOID Intergalactic Forces
26
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:32:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking.
yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic |
Serendipity Lost
Repo Industries
120
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:35:00 -
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Agondray wrote:Sylphy wrote:So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking. yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic
If I felt about eve the way you feel about eve - I would play my x-box or maybe subscribe to barbies online. If you hate it so much..... |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
396
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:46:00 -
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Not sure what some of these other posts are, but when I GF in local, its exactly what it means. Good fight. When I win, when I lose. Mostly, its just a mutual courtesy from both parties acknowledging no hard feelings or tears.
In your case, if you are talking about a gank, they are trolling you. They wanted you to do exactly what you did, which is come into the hornets nest and post about it, or cry in local.
The best thing you can do after getting ganked? GF back. They wont have much to go on if you do that, and you may find that some of them are actually very helpful once you prove your not a crybaby. After I gank missioners, if they are cool about it, I advise them of what they could have done better, what they could have looked out for, ect. Sometimes I even give them a chance to join up and actually PLAY EVE rather than shoot red crosses.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Noxisia Arkana
Deadspace Knights
148
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Posted - 2014.02.12 15:46:00 -
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Effect One wrote:'GF' in Eve is akin to a 'lol' in casual text chat. It is a worthless, meaningless acknowledgement (in this case that someone got exploded).
Nothing more, nothing less.
I would agree. It's also a good indication that you understand game mechanics and generally don't care that you lost a ship.
For people that feed on tears it's a good indication that the target will either stonewall or make light of the situation which means they may be interesting to talk to socially.
An immediate private convo, or bitching in local is essentially throwing blood in the water around feeding sharks. They now havee incentive to come back and eat here again. As it was delicious. |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
712
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Posted - 2014.02.12 16:07:00 -
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Sylphy wrote:So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking.
It is for the same reason the guy in mcdonalds says "have a nice day" even though he doesn't give a ****.
It is called politeness. Even ganks take time to set up and miners have ways to avoid them.
stop being churlish and just GF in local.
Money at its root is a form of rationing.
When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Haedonism Bot
Revolutionary Front
850
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:07:00 -
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When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship".
everevolutionaryfront.blogspot.com |
Paul Tsukaya
Tsukaya Light Industries
68
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:46:00 -
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Sometimes it's said seriously, sometimes people are just trolling though.
If it's the later and you're posting this thread, then they accomplished the desired effect  |
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Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:47:00 -
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Haedonism Bot wrote:When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship".
Care to elaborate? |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
400
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Posted - 2014.02.12 17:58:00 -
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Ria Nieyli wrote:Haedonism Bot wrote:When I was a kid, I was on a soccer team. At the end of every match, the coaches would line up both teams, and you would slap everybody's hand and say, "good game." The "gf" is exactly the same kind of gesture. My soccer coach called it "sportsmanship". Care to elaborate?
Elaborate what? Its a complete thought as-is.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:04:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Elaborate what? Its a complete thought as-is.
What's the relevance though? |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
401
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:09:00 -
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That saying "GF" to your opponent is just like saying "Good game" to the opposing team after you play. Being a good sport... sportsmanship...
Better?
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Batelle
Komm susser Tod
1692
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:10:00 -
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i will GF for an actual fight.
No need to GF someone you exploded in your gatecamp or caught with their pants down.
"CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!"
Never forget. |
Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:12:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:That saying "GF" to your opponent is just like saying "Good game" to the opposing team after you play. Being a good sport... sportsmanship...
Better?
That's just a repeat of what he said. Forget that I asked. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
2433
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:41:00 -
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I am of the opinion that failure to acknowledge your opponent is what truly constitutes poor sportsmanship.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
Pew Terror
Green Associates
59
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:43:00 -
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I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
401
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Posted - 2014.02.12 18:46:00 -
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Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed"
Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring".
Yikes.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Winchester Steele
333
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:03:00 -
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Agondray wrote:Sylphy wrote:So nothing to do with good sporstmanship, where you congratulate your opponent - even if that said opponent outwitted/smarted/skilled you with a lesser ship - on a job well done. It was a match you enjoyed, had fun and hopefully, learned something new.
Surely you're joking. yeah unfortunately welcome to eve where there are douches abundant, you cant trust so called new players either as most are someones alt and the real new players get lured into traps and scams. Very few people that arent a training corp actually try to legitimately help people. The rest are just in it for the tears as they live in their parents basement or attic
Lol. Your an angry little sperglord arent you? Maybe Eve isn't the right game for you?
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Pew Terror
Green Associates
60
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:27:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring". Yikes.
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Gizznitt Malikite
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
3519
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:33:00 -
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There are appropriate times to say GF, and inappropriate ones.
Generally, if the victim says GF, it is impolite to not return the GF.
If you feel the fight was in good sportsmanship (win or lose), saying GF is appropriate.
The truth is, fights happen in EvE when both sides believe they can win, and just because the end result was you getting curbstomped did not negate it being a gf.
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
401
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:46:00 -
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Pew Terror wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring". Yikes. GF
GF
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Christine Peeveepeeski
Rodents of Unusual Size
501
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Posted - 2014.02.12 19:51:00 -
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I say GF 90% of the time, i only don't bother if it was a plex farmer that died.
I do it out of habit from the days I played freelancer. |
Pew Terror
Green Associates
60
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Posted - 2014.02.12 20:32:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring". Yikes. GF GF
<3 |
Ria Nieyli
201
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Posted - 2014.02.12 21:59:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
If you feel the fight was in good sportsmanship (win or lose), saying GF is appropriate.
OK, let's say we have a 1v1 frig fight and you blow me up. I say nothing. Why is that inappropriate? Honest question. |
Hannibal Carlisle
Black Storm Cartel
Blackguard Mercenaries
3
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Posted - 2014.02.12 22:08:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Not sure what some of these other posts are, but when I GF in local, its exactly what it means. Good fight. When I win, when I lose. Mostly, its just a mutual courtesy from both parties acknowledging no hard feelings or tears.
In your case, if you are talking about a gank, they are trolling you. They wanted you to do exactly what you did, which is come into the hornets nest and post about it, or cry in local.
The best thing you can do after getting ganked? GF back. They wont have much to go on if you do that, and you may find that some of them are actually very helpful once you prove your not a crybaby. After I gank missioners, if they are cool about it, I advise them of what they could have done better, what they could have looked out for, ect. Sometimes I even give them a chance to join up and actually PLAY EVE rather than shoot red crosses.
Much the same here. If I derp into a gate camp I hope to take one with me as I die, but still 'gf' either way. Eve is eve. |
Sabriz Adoudel
Mission BLITZ
2035
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:00:00 -
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Saying 'GF' after a gank means you respect the mark's capability to get their pod out safely. If they are still in local, it's not a total victory.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=238931 - an idea for a new form of hybrid PVE/PVP content.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=318489 - Proposal for a new type of tech 2 Destroyer
If you want to mine in highsec, read www.minerbumping.com. |
Donovan Draknevov
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
56
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Posted - 2014.02.13 01:06:00 -
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Leto Thule wrote:Pew Terror wrote:I always thought it meant: "Get F$#@ed" Holy ****! That is the ugliest thing I have ever seen... your avatar looks like a mix of Michael Jackson and the chick from "The Ring". Yikes.
Dammit you made me shoot Quafe out of my nose.
On topic, I say GF nowadays. Usually I'm getting blown up, but I still shoot 'em a message. Hell, this is an example of one of the times I got blapped. Now, if I get gate-camped, or suddenly dropped upon and completely annihilated by The Blob (TM), I'll probably not say GF because there was no fight. It was a massacre. However, it's Eve. A video game. I'll probably just say something like "Damn, ya got me good."
Trust in the Rust |
Demerius Xenocratus
Kill for Gold Brotherhood.
2
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Posted - 2014.02.13 03:26:00 -
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There is a difference between a fight and an execution. |
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