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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 497	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:31:00 - [1] - Quote Dear CCP, I trust that if in the future you decide to have Warfare-Link boosts only apply to 'on grid' ships for pvp'ers, you no doubt will equally apply the same nerf to mining gang links and mining command ships? i.e. No more carebear Orca's sitting comfortably at a station undock giving in-system boosts, while pvp boosters get the big stiffie? Just so we are clear and fair...right CCP? Would you like to know more?
unidenify Caldari Provisions Caldari State 42	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:34:00 - [2] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Dear CCP, I trust that if in the future you decide to have Warfare-Link boosts only apply to 'on grid' ships for pvp'ers, you no doubt will equally apply the same nerf to mining gang links and mining command ships? i.e. No more carebear Orca's sitting comfortably at a station undock giving in-system boosts, while pvp boosters get the big stiffie? Just so we are clear and fair...right CCP? sure
Clementina Coreli Corporation 135	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:36:00 - [3] - Quote Mining Links and the Warfare Links should work similarly enough to each other that getting rid of Off grid boosting for one should get rid of off grid boosting for the other.
Speedkermit Damo Demonic Retribution Nullsec Ninjas 248	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:37:00 - [4] - Quote Sounds like someone's a little upset that their I-win button might be taken away. Don't Panic.
Kimmi Chan Tastes Like Purple 1086	Posted - 2014.02.12 16:57:00 - [5] - Quote Posting in a not-so-stealth "Grrr Carebears" thread. "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game!
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1435	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:37:00 - [6] - Quote Mining Boosts stole my lunch. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~
Obvious Cyno The Scope Gallente Federation 87	Posted - 2014.02.12 17:45:00 - [7] - Quote Wow people still complaining about links.
Capt Fossil The Scope Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:17:00 - [8] - Quote AND why can neutrals still boost with zero repercussions?
Kaarous Aldurald ROC Academy The ROC 2433	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:19:00 - [9] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Dear CCP, I trust that if in the future you decide to have Warfare-Link boosts only apply to 'on grid' ships for pvp'ers, you no doubt will equally apply the same nerf to mining gang links and mining command ships? i.e. No more carebear Orca's sitting comfortably at a station undock giving in-system boosts, while pvp boosters get the big stiffie? Just so we are clear and fair...right CCP? Well, first I'd be curious what prompted this, but it would only make sense if that were the case. The way they write code now, the old stuff goes poof, like with the new warp gate animations. If they are replacing it in one instance, it would be going away in all of them. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 497	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:26:00 - [10] - Quote Can an Orca today boost from behind a POS shield? Comparably, can a pvp command ship? Would you like to know more?
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 3164	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:49:00 - [11] - Quote Posting in a stealth buff the Rorqual thread. It isn't the Orca that is causing mining links to be treated differently. Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Can an Orca today boost from behind a POS shield? Comparably, can a pvp command ship? All mining links can boost from within the force field (it is not a shield), regardless of the ship. Other links cannot. All links can be used on: * Strategic Cruisers with Command defensive subsystem * Battlecruisers * Command Ships * Industrial Command Ships (Orca) * Capital Industrial Ships (Rorqual) * Carriers * Super Carriers * Titans
Malcolm Shinhwa Bad Touches 1176	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:53:00 - [12] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Can an Orca today boost from behind a POS shield? Comparably, can a pvp command ship? You can do mining links from inside a POS. You can't use any of the PvP links from a POS. No its not fair, or even logical. But apparently the Rorqual sucks for all concivable uses other than POS queen. Logic held no sway in the "balance" discussions, so PvP links were thrown outside the shield while Orcas and Rorqs get to stay inside. Given that history, it doesn't seem like there is any reason that CCP can't and won't make PvP links on grid only while leaving miners to sit on stations and in POS force fields. I know violence isn't the answer. I got it wrong on purpose.
Feyd Rautha Harkonnen Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 497	Posted - 2014.02.12 18:57:00 - [13] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: All mining links can boost from within the force field (it is not a shield), regardless of the ship. Other links cannot. And there you have it, and the reason for my original post requesting an equitable clarification from CCP going forward. Will CCP continue to screw PVP'ers while allowing the carebears to retain their candy? Because CCP talks a great game about 'balance', but when push comes to shove all I see each release is more road to nerfdom crap and the screwing of pvp'ers over carebears. Would you like to know more?
unidenify Caldari Provisions Caldari State 43	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:42:00 - [14] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Tau Cabalander wrote: All mining links can boost from within the force field (it is not a shield), regardless of the ship. Other links cannot. And there you have it, and the reason for my original post requesting an equitable clarification from CCP going forward. Will CCP continue to screw PVP'ers while allowing the carebears to retain their candy? Because CCP talks a great game about 'balance', but when push comes to shove all I see each release is more road to nerfdom crap and the screwing of pvp'ers over carebears. I don't understand how it hurt you? you can kill them, and they can't fight back.
James Amril-Kesh 4S Corporation Goonswarm Federation 9009	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:49:00 - [15] - Quote Removing OGB from the Rorqual would be fine, provide you moved the bonus to mining links from the Industrial Core module to the hull itself. That being said removing OGB is and always has been a bad idea. "Pretty much all 14 of the CSM were in favor of a drone assign nerf for OBVIOUS gameplay reasons" - Sala Cameron
Kimmi Chan Tastes Like Purple 1089	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:50:00 - [16] - Quote unidenify wrote: Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Tau Cabalander wrote: All mining links can boost from within the force field (it is not a shield), regardless of the ship. Other links cannot. And there you have it, and the reason for my original post requesting an equitable clarification from CCP going forward. Will CCP continue to screw PVP'ers while allowing the carebears to retain their candy? Because CCP talks a great game about 'balance', but when push comes to shove all I see each release is more road to nerfdom crap and the screwing of pvp'ers over carebears. I don't understand how it hurt you? you can kill them, and they can't fight back. It didn't hurt him. He just wants you to read his blog. Could have saved us all some time by just putting "Read my blog please" in the OP. "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game!
Kristalll Valkyrie Professional Resources I Whip My Slaves Back and Forth 11	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:51:00 - [17] - Quote Malcolm Shinhwa wrote: Given that history, it doesn't seem like there is any reason that CCP can't and won't make PvP links on grid only while leaving miners to sit on stations and in POS force fields. Except for the coding. The boosting mechanics are the same for all the links, in terms of the coding, so making one on-grid would make the other on grid unless they COMPLETELY recode the entire thing (which may be necessary to force on grid in the first place). Making the mining links work in pos shield and warfare links not was in the MODULE code and NOT the link code.
AnotherUseless Alt Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 12	Posted - 2014.02.12 19:59:00 - [18] - Quote Considering they've admitted they don't know how to do it, it's unlikely you'll have to worry about it anytime soon. "Self help is all in your head"
Batelle Komm susser Tod 1694	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:06:00 - [19] - Quote offgrid boosting would be a lot less powerful if people weren't squeezing 6 links onto a single ship. And if they're forced on-grid, people will stop using those 6 link boosters anyway because they are paper. So why not just nerf command processors directly? Also how is it unfair for mining links to have different rules? Is it unfair to the asteroids or something? "CCP is changing policy, and has asked that we discontinue the bonus credit program after November 7th. So until then, enjoy a super-bonus of 1B Blink Credit for each 60-day GTC you buy!" Never forget.
Kimmi Chan Tastes Like Purple 1089	Posted - 2014.02.12 20:33:00 - [20] - Quote Batelle wrote: offgrid boosting would be a lot less powerful if people weren't squeezing 6 links onto a single ship. And if they're forced on-grid, people will stop using those 6 link boosters anyway because they are paper. So why not just nerf command processors directly? Also how is it unfair for mining links to have different rules? Is it unfair to the asteroids or something? Because Grrr Carebears!!!! "You should just create one thread and put all of your complaints in it instead of littering the forums with multiple threads." ~CCP Falcon www.eve-radio.com -áJoin Eve Radio channel in game!
Natassia Krasnoo R3D SHIFT Brothers Of The Dark Sun 140	Posted - 2014.02.12 21:43:00 - [21] - Quote Perhaps you should all lie down on the floor for a moment. Good now take a deep breath and hold it. Now kick your feet and flail your arms and fists about you while screaming like a 2 year old who hasn't gotten their way. Very good! Now stand up and pay attention. THIS IS EVE!!! No one ever claimed it was fair! If you were expecting fairness go play pandas or ponies or whatever it is that 10 year olds play online. There are many many things in eve, that others might consider unfair. In the immortal words of the Devs. HTFU!
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy 511	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:13:00 - [22] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Dear CCP, I trust that if in the future you decide to have Warfare-Link boosts only apply to 'on grid' ships for pvp'ers, you no doubt will equally apply the same nerf to mining gang links and mining command ships? i.e. No more carebear Orca's sitting comfortably at a station undock giving in-system boosts, while pvp boosters get the big stiffie? Just so we are clear and fair...right CCP? This has to be the most troll like and divisive post I've read in a while. You know darn well that the Rorq is completely useless as mining support without off grid boosting; it's is a giant expensive immoble target. What I believe this is really is is a phycological rebuff against taking away off grid combat boosting. You don't care about mining boosts...not a jot. No.. you are just sour grapes because you want off grid combat boosting. -á-á- remove the cloaked from local; free intel is the real problem, not-á "afk" cloaking-á- [IMG]http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a208/DawnFrostbringer/consultsig.jpg[/IMG]
Infinity Ziona Drags are Bud 1662	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:46:00 - [23] - Quote The orca / roqual thing is stupid. Its not difficult to have your orca / rorqual aligned to POS with some WCS fitted to defeat tackle. If they're not supposed to leave POS just make them into a deployable POS module and be done with it. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467
Mario Putzo Welping and Dunking. 274	Posted - 2014.02.12 22:52:00 - [24] - Quote James Amril-Kesh wrote: Removing OGB from the Rorqual would be fine, provide you moved the bonus to mining links from the Industrial Core module to the hull itself. That being said removing OGB is and always has been a bad idea. What makes it so bad? Is it bad that someone should actually be playing the game instead of just sticking an afk alt off grid? I think that anything that promotes people actually pushing buttons is a good thing, and I am quite sure someone sitting in a Command Ship on grid will be mashing buttons just like everyone else on that grid should be, Or are you saying that you are cool with people receiving reward for not actually playing the game? I mean if thats the case, we should just automate everything. Why not just let someone shoot my guns for me, activate my modules for me. Why play the game at all if I don't need to play it...to play it.
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat Working Stiffs 3164	Posted - 2014.02.12 23:59:00 - [25] - Quote Mario Putzo wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: Removing OGB from the Rorqual would be fine, provide you moved the bonus to mining links from the Industrial Core module to the hull itself. That being said removing OGB is and always has been a bad idea. What makes it so bad? Is it bad that someone should actually be playing the game instead of just sticking an afk alt off grid? Erm... given the context you quoted, OGB = Off-Grid Boosting not On-Grid Boosting.
Mario Putzo Welping and Dunking. 274	Posted - 2014.02.13 00:02:00 - [26] - Quote Tau Cabalander wrote: Mario Putzo wrote: James Amril-Kesh wrote: Removing OGB from the Rorqual would be fine, provide you moved the bonus to mining links from the Industrial Core module to the hull itself. That being said removing OGB is and always has been a bad idea. What makes it so bad? Is it bad that someone should actually be playing the game instead of just sticking an afk alt off grid? Erm... given the context you quoted, OGB = Off-Grid Boosting not On-Grid Boosting. Hence why I asked if he was supporting the nature of AFK gaming. IE. Off Grid. All boost should be on grid, and actually participating in the game not an alt in a safe or at a POS. Just like people should be controlling their own drones and not assigning them to one guy to play the game for them. Its not a fun mechanic.
Your Dad Naked State War Academy Caldari State 68	Posted - 2014.02.13 12:59:00 - [27] - Quote Having Orca/Rorquals on-grid is quite possibly one of the worst ideas I've heard in awhile. The reason combat boosters need to be on grid is because they are a force multiplier during combat. The problem is not simply being off-grid; the problem is it's providing a boost in combat ability while being off-grid. Removing the combat aspect, we can see why there is no reason to expect industrial boosting ships to be on-grid. They are not a force multiplier for combat, therefore combat ships engaging miners are not at any disadvantage due to it being off-grid. Beyond that, realistically speaking, no one would ever use the Orca/Rorqual if it had to be placed on grid. You PVPers that promote this idea simply do not understand industry.
Debora Tsung The Investment Bankers Guild 946	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:40:00 - [28] - Quote Capt Fossil wrote: AND why can neutrals still boost with zero repercussions? Stop bringing relevance to troll threads, you're only encouraging them. Stupidity should be a bannable offense. Also This --> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=216699 Please stop making "afk cloak" threads, thanks in advance.
I Love Boobies All Hail Boobies 1028	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:52:00 - [29] - Quote Awww... must have had a hard time killing an Orca that was playing docking games. Poor guy.
Sentamon Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 1436	Posted - 2014.02.13 13:56:00 - [30] - Quote Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote: Tau Cabalander wrote: All mining links can boost from within the force field (it is not a shield), regardless of the ship. Other links cannot. And there you have it, and the reason for my original post requesting an equitable clarification from CCP going forward. Will CCP continue to screw PVP'ers while allowing the carebears to retain their candy? Because CCP talks a great game about 'balance', but when push comes to shove all I see each release is more road to nerfdom crap and the screwing of pvp'ers over carebears. Less ore mined, just means higher ore prices. Therefore miners win, no matter what. Hope that revelation doesn't cause an overload of tears. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~

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