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Rells	Posted - 2006.04.09 16:45:00 - [1] Last night the PVP-BASIC class consiseted of no less than 2 trial accounts all learning the ropes of pvp. After the instruction in techniques and live fire drills on rats, we ventured into 0.0 space. During the next 4 hours we managed to get 12 kills including a Scorpion and a Tech 2 Thorax with Tech 2 drones. In addition we had a Raven scrambled and dead but had to abort that attack due to arrival of a massive BoB fleet in local who, ironically, finished the job for us; much to the chagrin of the Raven driver who apparently hadnt heard that BoB reset standings to everyone. There was a brief, lethal, and enormously laggy encounter with a 135 ship Goonfleet fleet. We lost 8 pilots before we could warp out. The podded ones in all circumstances ended up back at base getting their spare ship and being rejoined. At the time of the tech 2 Thorax encounter at abotu 4:00 am Eve Time, we were down to 14 participants. It took a while to take him out but we did take him out, loosing 6 pilots in the process. We escorted the pods home and called it a night. All of the students were learning the basics of PVP. I was the only vetran there and they handled themselves magnificently. It was a real pleasure to command them and I hope we have more classes of that calibur. Quite soon opponets were running from us, the first few that assumed a bunch of noobs couldnt do much learned the hard way. salute to all participants You DONT need millions of SP to PvP. You need courage, training, perseverence and a desire to fight back. Isnt it about time you learned to fight back? -- Rells ◄ Isnt it time you learned how to fight back? ◄ Agony Unleashed PvP University: ◄ Click here to find out more!
Double TaP	Posted - 2006.04.09 16:50:00 - [2] Originally by: Rells snip You DONT need millions of SP to PvP. You need courage, training, perseverence and a desire to fight back. Isnt it about time you learned to fight back? And someone who knows how to pvp telling you what to do. None the less, congrats on the deimos kill. lol @ goonfleet though haha
xStormwingx	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:03:00 - [3] ^double tap has a point ;) but nonetheless, very nice work. 12 kills in 0.0 with a buncha pvp nubs, plus BoB and Goonfleet(lol) flying around. --- :O
Factor Benz	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:06:00 - [4] Edited by: Factor Benz on 09/04/2006 17:06:39 Hey I was that thorax. Good fight there. The EW was what did me in. I had like a 40 secs lock time on those frigs
Happydayz	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:10:00 - [5] Haha, I was wondering what was going on in that killmail. Syndicate was a mighty interesting place to be last night.
Haniblecter Teg	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:10:00 - [6] Oh god. 14+ ships with even one EW mod is giong to wtfpwn lone ships. Break your classes down to 3 or less participants per 'class' and you'll have exactly where you want to be. Anything more and simple numbers outweigh any other factor. ---------------------------------------- Friends Forever
xStormwingx	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:13:00 - [7] Originally by: Haniblecter Teg 14+ ships with even one EW mod is giong to wtfpwn lone ships. Break your classes down to 3 or less participants per 'class' and you'll have exactly where you want to be. Anything more and simple numbers outweigh any other factor. Yeah, but then again its amusing (To me at least)... victim: "hahaha lookit all teh stuuupid noobs" minutes later victim: "omgomgomg helpp the noobs (literally) are blobbing me!" course, i wouldn't want to be in that position. (rells - Haniblecter is still right tho. maybe once those guys graduate a little :P) --- :O
Jaddor	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:32:00 - [8] Rells you must be REALLY afraid of newbies catching up to keep posting how you can blob solo vets with noobs. Congrats for doing the obvious.
Eximius Josari	Posted - 2006.04.09 17:39:00 - [9] Lol, wonder how a battle with me...(in a couple more monthes) would have turned out :p ~Shadowlord Victory is the weakness of the enemy.
Rells	Posted - 2006.04.09 18:13:00 - [10] Originally by: Factor Benz Edited by: Factor Benz on 09/04/2006 17:06:39 Hey I was that thorax. Good fight there. The EW was what did me in. I had like a 40 secs lock time on those frigs That was a great fight. You proved a number of points for my students right there. -- Rells ◄ Isnt it time you learned how to fight back? ◄ Agony Unleashed PvP University: ◄ Click here to find out more!
Rells	Posted - 2006.04.09 18:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Happydayz Haha, I was wondering what was going on in that killmail. Syndicate was a mighty interesting place to be last night. Hehehe .. Id love to have a copy of that sucker if you dont mind. -- Rells ◄ Isnt it time you learned how to fight back? ◄ Agony Unleashed PvP University: ◄ Click here to find out more!
Rells	Posted - 2006.04.09 18:29:00 - [12] Originally by: Jaddor Rells you must be REALLY afraid of newbies catching up to keep posting how you can blob solo vets with noobs. Congrats for doing the obvious. The obvious? Hardly that. If you think it is so obvious then why havent you done that. I do a HELL of a lot of work with PVP-BASIC to give my customers value. Its not simply invite them all to gang and go for it. And Syndicate is the HARDEST area in the game in which to survive. You routinely encounter huge fleets and its a full out mosh pit. Why dont you stow it and stop trolling threads with nonsense. Since you clearly dont know what the hell you are talking about that would be my advice. Your 2 months in this game doesnt trump my 3 years off and on across 2 main char. You havent listened to a single vet, many of them who have no love for me personally, telling you that you are wrong. You still think its a conspiracy to get newbies killed? Dont believe me. Ask my students. -- Rells ◄ Isnt it time you learned how to fight back? ◄ Agony Unleashed PvP University: ◄ Click here to find out more!
Tasuric Orka	Posted - 2006.04.09 18:39:00 - [13] Edited by: Tasuric Orka on 09/04/2006 18:39:32 I'll be signing up soon, blobbing people in t1 frigs sounds like fun ________________________________________________ Hypocritical.
Rells	Posted - 2006.04.09 22:13:00 - [14] Originally by: Tasuric Orka Edited by: Tasuric Orka on 09/04/2006 18:39:32 I'll be signing up soon, blobbing people in t1 frigs sounds like fun Its a blast. We have classes every 2 weeks as long as something doesnt intervene. Come hang out with us in channel as well if you want. -- Rells ◄ Isnt it time you learned how to fight back? ◄ Agony Unleashed PvP University: ◄ Click here to find out more!
Toksin	Posted - 2006.04.10 02:44:00 - [15] TBH, this isn't new. 15 frigates being able to take on a battleship, with less then a million SP, has been known to be a good/cheap/effective tactic. If it wasn't known, GoonFleet and GoonWaffe wouldn't be reconized as the threat that they are. And like it was pointed out earlier, sure, 15 newb frigates can be effecive, BUT, only with an experienced leader. Not someone who has taken a "class" on it. Otherwise, they'll just be slaughtered. --------------- My views do not reflect the views of my corp, or my own views.
Kahani Lyn	Posted - 2006.04.10 02:57:00 - [16] If you're getting kill rates of 1:6 how is that even comparable enough to be not considered a slaughter?
Sarmea Moon	Posted - 2006.04.10 03:02:00 - [17] Originally by: Factor Benz Edited by: Factor Benz on 09/04/2006 17:06:39 Hey I was that thorax. Good fight there. The EW was what did me in. I had like a 40 secs lock time on those frigs Was it a Thorax, or a Diemos? The original post said tech2.. just curious. --------- "English doesn't borrow from other languages. English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over, and goes through thier pockets for loose grammar. "
Sovy Kurosei	Posted - 2006.04.10 03:06:00 - [18] Good work Rells, especially on taking out that Diemos with its drones. --- Punishers 4TW!
Calenth	Posted - 2006.04.10 03:12:00 - [19] Edited by: Calenth on 10/04/2006 03:13:41 Edited by: Calenth on 10/04/2006 03:12:56 Originally by: Rells There was a brief, lethal, and enormously laggy encounter with a 135 ship Goonfleet fleet. We were testing out our newest formation. http://img394.imageshack.us/my.php?image=200604090700066pj.png
Slink Grinsdikild	Posted - 2006.04.10 03:13:00 - [20] Rells, can you teach me how to blob please? Flying solo gets boring. Maybe some of those mad skillz of yours will rub off on me. ______ Proud member of The 99977 - Those unfortunate ones not to make it into The 23.
Vile rat	Posted - 2006.04.10 06:34:00 - [21] Sounds like you guys are having fun rells! If I had to learn the game by spending months in empire mining veld I would never have continued playing beyond the two week trial. By going out into 0.0 right off the bat and learning what the real draw to the game is you not only get to have fun blowing things up, you also don't have any opportunities to learn bad empire habits that'll ruin your future gaming experience. So bravo rells and I hope more people follow your example.
fmercury	Posted - 2006.04.10 07:35:00 - [22] Originally by: Sarmea Moon Originally by: Factor Benz Edited by: Factor Benz on 09/04/2006 17:06:39 Hey I was that thorax. Good fight there. The EW was what did me in. I had like a 40 secs lock time on those frigs Was it a Thorax, or a Diemos? The original post said tech2.. just curious. He meant t2 fitted thorax.
Splagada	Posted - 2006.04.10 07:49:00 - [23] nice really, i'm one of those noobs reading your threads but who didnt try this yet sounds like fun, maybe next time :D - Member of [AAST]
Severe McCald	Posted - 2006.04.10 10:34:00 - [24] Edited by: Severe McCald on 10/04/2006 10:34:56 Originally by: Haniblecter Teg Oh god. 14+ ships with even one EW mod is giong to wtfpwn lone ships. Which proves his point that noobs can be effective, although, as someone else has said, only if they have some idea of which way to turn. Losing 6 t1 friggys for a t2 fitted Rax is a pretty cost efficient trade imo. GJ Rells. Sev I saw a squirrel today jumping from one tree to another, the branch it landed on snapped. So the squirrel was on this falling branch, clambering like mad, thinking it was doing something about it.'
FireFoxx80	Posted - 2006.04.10 11:31:00 - [25] 14+ ships are likely to take almost any solo pilot down, SPs or no SPs
Hyphoon	Posted - 2006.04.10 12:26:00 - [26] Hmm this is good, i is wanting to learn more, does one rells offer classes in the art of PVP to others of interested in the PVP of EVE. I have one been longing to conquer a many players as the rats are of simpla and easy prey to hunt. The human players are of more difficulty to hunt as they use thoughts and fear to drive them. I is to be hunting those who are stronger than i to become stronger than one self.
mirel yirrin	Posted - 2006.04.10 12:49:00 - [27] Originally by: Rells Last night the PVP-BASIC class consiseted of no less than 2 trial accounts all learning the ropes of pvp. After the instruction in techniques and live fire drills on rats, we ventured into 0.0 space. During the next 4 hours we managed to get 12 kills including a Scorpion and a Tech 2 Thorax with Tech 2 drones. In addition we had a Raven scrambled and dead but had to abort that attack due to arrival of a massive BoB fleet in local who, ironically, finished the job for us; much to the chagrin of the Raven driver who apparently hadnt heard that BoB reset standings to everyone. There was a brief, lethal, and enormously laggy encounter with a 135 ship Goonfleet fleet. We lost 8 pilots before we could warp out. The podded ones in all circumstances ended up back at base getting their spare ship and being rejoined. At the time of the tech 2 Thorax encounter at abotu 4:00 am Eve Time, we were down to 14 participants. It took a while to take him out but we did take him out, loosing 6 pilots in the process. We escorted the pods home and called it a night. All of the students were learning the basics of PVP. I was the only vetran there and they handled themselves magnificently. It was a real pleasure to command them and I hope we have more classes of that calibur. Quite soon opponets were running from us, the first few that assumed a bunch of noobs couldnt do much learned the hard way. salute to all participants You DONT need millions of SP to PvP. You need courage, training, perseverence and a desire to fight back. Isnt it about time you learned to fight back? I love you guys, Frigate Gank fleets FTW! --------------------------------- CEO of teh Jenny Spitfire Fanclub. Wanna Join? Convo meh IG.
alpheon	Posted - 2006.04.10 13:46:00 - [28] Hey, this is great! A lot of people in this game get fed up and frustrated with PVP when all they have is a crusier. I think it's great that someone is taking a real effort to teaching people that even a squad of frigates can do some serious damage. The game IS more then SP, even if having a 15 million doesn't hurt ;)
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.04.10 13:49:00 - [29] Originally by: FireFoxx80 14+ ships are likely to take almost any solo pilot down, SPs or no SPs yeah but at least it proves the point that low-sp CAN do something ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Tabet Saens	Posted - 2006.04.10 14:06:00 - [30] Nice job! Grats on a successful adventure! If I could afford your class I might consider taking it someday, but ISK's just don't seem to hang around in my wallet for long. /sigh

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