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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.16 17:37:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 16/09/2003 17:37:40
For the crimes against Amarrians, PFM or Peoples Backside of Minmatar will be hunted and kill.
You run from our forces and you cower in stations. But you can't run forever you will be found.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.09.16 20:03:00 -
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i gave vince black a fair chance of finding me last night all he had to do is by random luck was to pick the right belt/moon/sun.
even waited at yulai gate the only one without sentrys for some time.
needless to say i didnt want a race type ship that i was'nt prepared for so i made my way home instead.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.16 20:43:00 -
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i gave vince black a fair chance of finding me last night all he had to do is by random luck was to pick the right belt/moon/sun.
even waited at yulai gate the only one without sentrys for some time.
needless to say i didnt want a race type ship that i was'nt prepared for so i made my way home instead.
See They flee whenever they can. But we will get'm they can't run forever.
The PFM are spineless terrists that leave mines for other even there own people to fall prey to. And run when they see a fight.
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2003.09.16 21:01:00 -
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Ok Kalhan this is tedious but I guess I should respond.
You and your friends are beings whose brains are equipped with a spotlight of comprehensible risk that is a pencil-thin beam illuminating the lesser end of the mathematical continuum of calculable risks. Your subjective judgement of what seems like a good bet is irrelevant to what is actually a good bet.
As far as intelligent beings are concerned to undock when faced with certain suicide is only acceptable when it is for the greater good. Had mine own death serviced anything but your own avarice and petty lust for revenge on an old ship loss then perhaps I would have undocked. As it was none of my siblings were in trouble so there was no need for my cruiser to face a scorpion, a moa, a blackbird and a raven at all.
As for running, well it seems Yamatar found it highly amusing to lead you round by the nose for many systems as other members of our corp did to others of yours. If a cruiser pilot wants to lead a blackbird around taking the mickey all night and laughing at you then why shouldnt he? You know as well as I that you could jam him easily as you did on several occasions. He just found it amusing to let you jam him then jump out of gate whilst gates blocked you, then wait for you to stupidly repeat your errors. That was until you realised the error of your ways and spent five minutes orbiting him wondering what to do. 
Don't worry Kalhan I have no intention of letting you or your (foul mouthed) corp mates claim my bounty. We'll fight you on our terms not yours and all your taunting and doglike yapping does naught but amuse us.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:31:00 -
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incedently, you declared war on us but on having 2 of your pilots doing the same auto route as me they would'nt stand there ground in what i thought was a fair fight, 2 of yours on one me!.
in local they would'nt even reply to the gauntlet i threw down, instead proceeded to warp off rather than stay and fight.
2vs1 = good odds for you !
also you being the declaring party you should really instruct your pilots to shoot rather than run.
anyway see you next time x x x
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Worlocke
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Posted - 2003.09.16 22:34:00 -
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Edited by: Worlocke on 16/09/2003 22:36:05
Well I beleive Viqer has proven that Minmatar intellect and writing ability far exceed that of the Amarr. Seems like yet another reason why they chose to enslave our people.
I still, however, hold on to the true reason we were enslaved. Being that the Amarr women developed an unsatiable lusting for Minmatar men (especially Brutors), and the inability of Amarr men to handle Minmatar women.
All in all, only a fool would go out and fight a fight that he knows he will lose. Minmatars are no fools and even though I may disagree with the terrorist like tactics of my Minamatar brothers I cannot call them "cowards" for hiding from unwinable odds.
He who outnumbered in a fight runs away lives to fight on even grounds another day.
"No beast so fierce knows but some touch of pity. But I know none and therefore am no beast." |
Ram Strider
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Posted - 2003.09.17 11:34:00 -
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Switch.......had we stopped to fight you you would have waited for us to fire then ran like the dog you are causing my friend and i to be late for a date with another of you corp members. However i seem to recall that later that very same day we had you pinned in your HQ and you said you would come out to fight Thaus and myself providing the rest of the corp left Nakah. Well they all left and i was the only one left and you logged........i will meet you any time any where and when the smoke clears i will pick up your frozen corpes and mail to to yo mama!
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Stront3h
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:04:00 -
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Edited by: Stront3h on 17/09/2003 12:06:16
I've only ever tangled with one of your pilots.
I hadn't been in the corp all that long and never in a corp war. Anyway, I jump into a gate and see a threat warning (a BS from what I remember).
Not being that far from the jump gate, I decided to see if I could make a run for it and punched all 3 abs into life. Needless to say I soon realised that I wasn't going to make the gate (already looking like a flying fireball) and warped to a planet/moon/sun. Now in my slight panic I'd forgotten to switch off my autopilot and upon reaching my destination warped straight back to the gate. 
Expecting to be toasted upon my arrival back at the gate, I resigned myself to the lose of a ship and my cargo. But no! the gate was clear, and being brave/stupid I decided to carry on through, knowing for well that my aggressor could be waiting on the other side.
Now this is the bit that made me laugh. The other pilot was in the next system and challenged me in local to resume the (one sided) fight, but that I'd have to wait a bit because he was fitting more guns.Needless to say declined his nice offer and proceeded to my destination in the system next door, transferred my cargo and picked up my Rifter and headed back the "same" way I'd just come. My point? well my be next time I will stand and fight the odds seemed good against what appeared to be a very poorly equipped BS and some inept piloting. Naturally I intend not to be flying an unarmed indy.
Oh and btw when was the last time you saw a terrorist/underground/revolutionary group fight a war on the terms of its foe?
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azrael211
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:15:00 -
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........i will meet you any time any where and when the smoke clears i will pick up your frozen corpes and mail to to yo mama!
Just to make things more interesting I would be very interested in receiving switch's corpsicle...please evemail once you are in possesion of it.
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Kassik Traggar
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:45:00 -
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Edited by: Kassik Traggar on 17/09/2003 12:49:17
Excellent point, Stron! I was trying to make this point to The1 last night, but he just wouldn't get it. On a similar note, its OK for you Space Clowns to chase us down, its fine to talk smack, and its all well and good to pod someone in a fair fight, but The1....
Really, what kind of idiots do you think we are? For one, you sit there and taunt me into a sure slaughter as if I didnt know you had friends on the way. As if that weren't quite stupid enough, you then try to bait me into inviting my friends by making outrageous and outright false claims, thinking that my....what, pride?....would cause me to call my friends into a slaughterhouse?
Lets just do each other a favor and pretend like we're all intelligent human beings, ok? Now, I understand that this will grant you far more creedence than you deserve, but for a little respect gained, I'm willing to make such sacrafice.
P.S. I think someone said it well earlier, throwing yourself into a meatgrinder will accomplish nothing, so lets not even use the old "you wouldn't stand and fight" bit, ok? Thanks.
Kassik
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Baggam
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:10:00 -
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People of Amarr, I have one thing to say to you and I shall say it three times for emphasis:
We will beat you
We will beat you
We will beat you
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darth solo
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:34:00 -
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Good afternoon.
The secret to a good war is not to comunicate with your opponent in local at all. All this come and meet me crap, is a waste of time.
Its all about having superior odds, this 1 on 1 stuff has no place in corp wars, execute your plans well, go after the BS in packs, form raiding parties, remember cruisers are cheap, losing BS hurt bad.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:46:00 -
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Ram i correct you :
i was going to log off for bed anyway but i said 3 of you could stay and i'd face you but, instead of leaving system your pilots must have logged in sys and been waiting on teamspeak.
I can toggle pilots in space BTW.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:58:00 -
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Dear Friends and Foes,
First off. Of course Viqer Fells words seem pleasing to the eye for he had various hours to write such nonsense as they cower in there station.
And had Thaus and Ram stoped to shoot at poor switch at the gate they would of violated a direct order not to fire untill they reach our position were kassik was hiding. We know your tricks. Had they of fired you would just of jump through and left Thaus and Ram waiting at the gate. If you wanted to fight them so bad I would of let them stay if you had fired first. But alass you didn't fire a single shot what a surprise.
Our goal is not to make it a 1 on 5 fight or as you did to me a 1 on 4 fight. We hope and have expressed over comms that You bring more members to help you. But it seems that this corp PFM is no more then a band of terriorists that do solo acts under one corp name. Had Kassik been one of our members. Our any Angel in space would of scrambled to his location even if it ment death.
Our clones are ready. We are not affraid of our enemy and will meet you on the battle field. Though we may Advance to the rear and wait for reenforcements. The PFM would even help there own members. Each incounter with then has resulted in the same end. Just one of our members enters the same system and 3 to 4 PFM run or dock. ex. Our CEO enters there space and 2 members warp out hide and log, and switch cowers in the station as his members leave him for the dogs.
Each time at first there is only 1 of us, with ample time to fight 1 on 1. But you choose to run so more have to come to aid and hunt you PFM down.
You can't run and hide forever. And if you do find me alone don't stress for more on on there way. We don't leave our members to die alone.
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:01:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 17/09/2003 15:02:01
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Ram i correct you :
i was going to log off for bed anyway but i said 3 of you could stay and i'd face you but, instead of leaving system your pilots must have logged in sys and been waiting on teamspeak.
I can toggle pilots in space BTW.
As for this event it seemed my local Comms was buged and They told me to leave so you can undock for a fair fight but it must of been to late cause you headed for bed too soon as I finally jumped out. I rest assure we welcomed a fair fight since you were the only member willing to come out whilst you fellow corp mates cowered and could not come to your defence.
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:03:00 -
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You can already guess why it is the People's Back of Minmatar because that is all we see when we encounter them.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:12:00 -
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hmm, if i were in command i would have instructed the two pilots to stand there ground as they would'nt have had a chance finding kassik or any of our lone pilots boxed in anyway.
and to put you straight i was going to bed and was afk writing up on this particular thread before i went to bed when the1 docks and offered em a bottle of water in station. i then told u that my corp was'nt offline but in other systems because you seemed to have thought that they logged and ran but they did'nt.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:18:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 17/09/2003 15:24:34
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hmm, if i were in command i would have instructed the two pilots to stand there ground as they would'nt have had a chance finding kassik or any of our lone pilots boxed in anyway.
and to put you straight i was going to bed and was afk writing up on this particular thread before i went to bed when the1 docks and offered em a bottle of water in station. i then told u that my corp was'nt offline but in other systems because you seemed to have thought that they logged and ran but they did'nt.
They were commanded only to stay and fight if you fired first otherwise you were just going to jump throught the gate once they had fired. Because again if it were true you really wanted a fight all you had to do was fire.
You were 2 jumps away and didn't even attempt to come to poor kassik's aid?
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:23:00 -
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We the SAI are commited to peace between the races and empires. and strictly oppose these facist, coweredly hate groups. Even your own breathren in our corp are ashamed to call thenselves Minmatar.
SAI poses to be en example of races living in harmony. And This PFM Amarrian hate group will meet the force of Amarr, Caldari, Gallente, and even Minmatar.
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Kassik Traggar
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:33:00 -
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People's Back of Minmatar. How witty.
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Kassik Traggar
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:35:00 -
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Oh, and if you had been listening to our TS channel, you would have heard the multitude of brethren enroute to "poor Kassik's" aid. Things just didnt pan out.
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Military Adjutant of
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"Remember, I don't know if you're not 'Playing Role'." |
Kassik Traggar
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:36:00 -
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Oh, and if you had been listening to our TS channel, you would have heard the multitude of brethren enroute to "poor Kassik's" aid. Things just didnt pan out.
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"Remember, I don't know if you're not 'Playing Role'." |
SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:38:00 -
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Edited by: SwitchBl4d3 on 17/09/2003 15:41:27
double post / buggy forum
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:39:00 -
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Oh, and if you had been listening to our TS channel, you would have heard the multitude of brethren enroute to "poor Kassik's" aid. Things just didnt pan out.
uh huh. Time and time again you have shown that to be true. Switch sure did come fast only being 2 jumps out, oh, wait, he never did show up did he?? I wonder why the aid of a corp member falls so low on this perticular Minmatar group.
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SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:39:00 -
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to the above statement i cant remember the temperament of sentry guns, thats why those paper cruisers were still intact. and also your pilots arent really war ready as i flashed up as threat on one of them and he didnt even know why i was targeting him even with a red strike beside my name.
his first reply in local was
thaus: Switch???????
and another thing if your pilots were instructed to shoot back they need to find the right click button because i was'nt targeted once
obvoiusly your pilots need to adapt to PvP more.
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:42:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 17/09/2003 15:43:30
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to the above statement i cant remember the temperament of sentry guns, thats why those paper cruisers were still intact. and also your pilots arent really war ready as i flashed up as threat on one of them and he didnt even know why i was targeting him even with a red strike beside my name.
his first reply in local was
thaus: Switch???????
obvoiusly your pilots need to adapt to PvP more.
Yes, sorry about that. Some of are less experienced members are still being trained we had hoped to train that one on kassik and any other members that showed to his aid,(but never did). But as I pointed out if you had fired they would of engagded you. He really really wanted to fire, but I instructed him not too unless you did.
Out of Char: is the server up. I am at work?
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Kassik Traggar
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:54:00 -
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OOC: Let ya know in a bit. Lunch break, and sorry about the dbl post earlier. :)
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"Remember, I don't know if you're not 'Playing Role'." |
SwitchBl4d3
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Posted - 2003.09.17 16:07:00 -
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its up but auto patch isnt working for me try manual maybe
"Teh lord of Nonni"
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Viqer Fell
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Posted - 2003.09.18 00:58:00 -
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Edited by: Viqer Fell on 18/09/2003 01:07:33
Ok Kalhan lets cut the crap here,
To state things as fact when you have no knowledge of a situation is to not only reveal your lack of understanding but also the shallow depths you go to to report on a Factual basis.
So here goes your lesson in "Freedom Fighters 101"
Freedom Fighting is much like Guerilla Warfare
Know your strengths and more importantly know your enemies. We do. Running isn't a cowardly thing when the only other option is a suicidal stand. It's knowing that living means having more isk to spend on assets rather than clones and insurance.
Fight battles on your own terms not on the enemies.
Simply put, don't expect us to undock 3 or 4 cruisers when we know we are gonna be facing a scorpion a blackbird and 2 other heavily armed cruisers especially when you had already stated that you'd called for more pilots to the system.
If you catch us in systems where we know we can't win we will happily turn our backs and run. Just pausing long enough each time to lead you round by the nose for a few systems to frustrate you.
Don't take stupid risks
At that time we were not sure whether sentry guns would open up on Switch even though we were at war so hence he was told not to fire first. Just in case he got attacked on three fronts. If he could of got one of your pilots to fire first then of course that not only puts the risk on them but allows him to retaliate without response from the guns. This is why he didn't fire first. We deemed it an inappropriate time to test the sentries out on corp war issues.
Support your brethren no matter what
As I said before, and you clearly weren't absorbing what I wrote, if there had been any risk to anyone when you camped us, I would have undocked along with the rest of us that were there but there wasn't. So I didn't.
As for Kassik, you have no knowledge whatsoever of what we were doing to help him and the only reason that The1 didn't have a few problems the other night is that he not only first of all caught me unawares in a hoader (it happens to the best of us sometimes), where I managed to survive by the way, but Kassik had already informed us he was having to go soon and so again was happily leading The1 round by his nose for a few systems to tease him.
Irritate the hell out of your enemy
We seem to be managing that as your posts seem to be becoming more and more fictional and "spin doctored" than factual. Should you even think of debating that FACT I would refer you to your comments on the Eve-I forum whereby you claim to have been in shuttles when we had independant people in local confirm what ships you had there.
Stay Mobile
You sit still for too long and you will lose. Don't expect us to hang around waiting for you all the time and don't moan if you suddenly can't locate us and call us cowards.
The only thing better than even odds is overwhelming odds
You continue to harp on about a ship you lost to us well over a month ago now despite my explaining this matter on several occasions, so here I go for the last time.
We didn't hunt you. We were hunting someone else at the time. It was a spawn point that spawned multiple missile firing NPC rats as well as having asteroids hence it was an attraction to players but also a dangerous place to sit alone. Therefore we had a few people there. Our targets that night left just as we warped in to attack. You were unlucky enough to warp in at that very same point. Now our chosen role is extremist fanatics fighting for the freedom of Minmatar people everywhere. As such we saw an amarrian in the system and in a nice cruiser. We decided there and then you were a valid target and proceeded to attack. That we had several ships there was irrelevant, just very unlucky for you and part of a planned operation that had only just begun to go awry for us.
I have no regrets about the destruction of your ship and as that particular system is fairly low sec neither should you. You risked flying to a low sec system where fights do not attract Concords attention and you were ill prepared to defend yourself when the risk failed.
That you are still upset about this is clear and to be honest I am not surprised you wish revenge but please stop harping on about the fact we outnumbered you. Thats life, it's tough. I am sure one day you will catch me alone but chances are I will simply do what you should. Stop moaning about it and try to come up with a tactic to defeat the enemy without resorting to these half truths and lies.
When i was being camped i was simply doing what i said i was, corp admin, you will note that my post earlier on was written at a completely different time to the time you camped us and tbh took me about ten minutes not the several hours you suggested.
Finally, just because we fight and operate under different styles and tactics it does not make us cowa
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Fetty Chico
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Posted - 2003.09.18 01:06:00 -
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funny that people talk smack when vicoty is assured..
be catch them off guard and they whine about how theyd kill you if they prepare
ah..I know psycalogy majors that would have a field day with how people act in this game
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