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Shemar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 15:52:00 -
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We could never ever ever (did I mention ever?) trust the Caldari inhabiting a planet in the same system as the Federation's capital. It can simply never happen.
There is nothing the Caldari could possibly give, no promises they could possibly make to make it worth the risk.
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Shemar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 18:30:00 -
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Eden Ramani,
Your uninformed and unintelligent blabbering showcases your complete lack of historical knowledge or perspective or what the current Federation, over two centuries evolved from the tragedy of the Caldari Prime bombing, stands for.
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Shemar
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Posted - 2006.04.12 19:39:00 -
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I couldn't care less about Caldari Prime as 'territory', but it is clear that the Federation can never trust the Caldari to occupy a planet so close to our own center of government.
I assure you, if Caldari Prime's location was non-threatening to the Federation I would be advocating it's return to you.
However, having said that, I have to say that any threats and illusions about forcibly taking it back only make me laugh.
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Posted - 2006.04.12 21:50:00 -
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 Originally by: Halunoto Vankaalen
And when the opportunity comes, and it will come in the coming months, I can assure you of that then I believe it will be reclaimed.
When that happens, I have a feeling Gallente Prime will be viewed in a whole different way.
Keep dreaming drone boy...
Coming months huh? I'll make you a bet.. a challenge...
In a year's time Luminaire will still be Gallente Sovereign territory. I am willing to bet 5 billion ISK on that. Up for it?
Furthermore, I am willing to double the amount for each following year. So 10 billion for two years. 20 billion for 3 years and so on.
Care to put your money where your mouth is?
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Posted - 2006.04.13 00:34:00 -
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Originally by: Kailea Shandrasekkar
Originally by: Shemar
In a year's time Luminaire will still be Gallente Sovereign territory. I am willing to bet 5 billion ISK on that. Up for it?
I think now is a appropriate moment to thank the Gallente who teached us a valuable lesson: Nothing is eternal.
Actually, the lesson here is that the Caldari are not the only ones looking for profit. I'd make you a bet for 10 or 50 or 200 years, but unfortunatly I probably won't be around to collect it...
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: "Halunoto Vankaalen"
Why certainly, regaining Caldari Prime and having you pay me in the process is a good situation indeed, rather profitable.
Is it official then, in front of the entire pod pilot community? 5 BILLION ISK on the date of exactly one year from this message?
Originally by: "Malthros Zenobia"
Agreed, you'd just bomb us again as soon as you got the chance.
You are making the mistake of assuming you are worth the ammo, or the time. The Federation is not what it was 200 years ago and it certainly has no need to include the likes of you in it.
Originally by: "Kailea Shandrasekkar"
Don't be a cheapstake and keep buying younger clones. I'd prefer you to be alive and watching the show. I'll be there, savoring it.
My dear, I have no interest in being a pod pilot forever. I plan to spend most of my life on my privately owned tropical island on Luminaire and at the rate my assets are growing, I will have more ISK than I will ever need in far less than 10 years.
Originally by: "Eden Ramani"
wow shemar you are a perfect exsample of the gallente
rude, arrogant, attention **** and thinking you are always right. further those who would disagree with you get mouthed off at. and yet of course true to the gallente you are all words and no might, even i know how pathetic the GLS is and I am quite new.
you are what is wrong with the Federation, do it a favor and overdose.
The next time I will need an ignorant, worthless waste of space to tell me who I am and what I stand for, I will be sure to look you up. I am just delighted that you do not wish to be a part of the Federation as it's value would be significantly decreased with you in it.
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Posted - 2006.04.13 18:55:00 -
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Originally by: Kailea Shandrasekkar
Originally by: Shemar
(...)Is it official then, in front of the entire pod pilot community? (...) You are making the mistake of assuming you are worth the ammo, or the time.(...)and at the rate my assets are growing, I will have more ISK than I will ever need in far less than 10 years.(...)I am just delighted that you do not wish to be a part of the Federation as it's value would be significantly decreased with you in it.
Wow. Just wow. I hope your belicous skills stands up for your fanfare and bravado.
I don't recall making any claims of combat prowess (not to be confused as a denial that I do have considerable combat skills, I just see no point in actually talking about them).
Will I have 5 billion to cover my bet if I lose? Yepp. Do I think there is the slightest chance I will lose? Nope. Remember the bet has nothing to do with me, it is about who will control Luminaire a year from now.
Do I think that the Gallente people care very little about what the Caldari do? I assure you that according to the vast majority of Gallente I have ever talked to, the only reason to ever even talk about them, other than in a business/investment context, would be if they invaded the Federation. Beyond that, complete indifference. Again though, nothing that has to do with me personally.
This one does refer to me... accumulation of assets. What pod pilot worth their license does not accumulate enough wealth in 10 years to last a lifetime? I fail to see how that would be perceived as bragging.
Finally, anyone who knows me knows that I believe that the Federation, in it's current form, is by far the most desirable of all sovereign entities to live in. However, I believe just as strongly that anyone that does not wish to be a part of it, should (and is) be able to do so. Once again, nothing to do with me personally.
Assumptions that the Federation would act today in the same way as it did 200 years ago, when the universe itself was literally a different place (no Amarr) and the Federation of that time, government and people, had very little in common with what the Federation is now, just indicates a concious denial of simple logical facts and I am honestly happy when people who act that way, remove themselves from the Federation.
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Posted - 2006.04.13 22:29:00 -
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Excellent. I will so enjoy the profits from your bragging and pride.
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Posted - 2006.04.13 22:47:00 -
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Just to be clear, the sovereignity of each system is clearly displayed on the pod pilot's video feed. This is what the 'bet' refers to.
Additionally, a 'bet' would actually involve an element of chance, which, in my opinion, is not present in the current situation. I don't see is as a bet, I see it as a gift 
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Posted - 2006.04.13 23:05:00 -
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Originally by: Scorpyn
Don't take anything for granted though. You haven't won the bet yet.
I am not the one spending it already 
Yes you are right, nothing is certain, but I do think that the possibility of losing this bet is smaller than the possibility of not permanently dying for a year (and I do hope that's pretty small to begin with  ), so well within acceptable everyday risks. 
Factor in the fact that if Luminaire was to fall into Caldari hands, I would most likely have died defending it, and you can see that I have very little to lose.
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Posted - 2006.04.14 15:54:00 -
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Originally by: Karl Mattar
Of course, I can say that knowing full well you will have a list of reasons as to why you can't do this.
One very simple reason. Armed Caldari in the heart of the Federation. No. Never.
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Posted - 2006.04.14 18:14:00 -
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An interesting and unexpected response. You do not speak for the Caldari people of course, any more than I speak for the Gallente, but nonetheless I must consider your statement carefully, before responding.
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Posted - 2006.04.14 18:47:00 -
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I could bother to respond Eden Ramani but your ignorance is made so obvious with every word you say that there is no need.
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Posted - 2006.04.14 18:56:00 -
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Edited by: Shemar on 14/04/2006 19:00:08
Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari
I would prefer to see Caldari Prime returned to the State because it would prevent war and cement a peaceful relationship permanently.
But is this really possible? Can there be enough trust for this to happen?
I hope that I speak for the majority of the Gallente, as well as all the citizens of the Federation when I say that the Federation has no reason to want a war with the Caldari. Would the Caldari feel the same, if the Caldari Prime issue was resolved?
Originally by: Karl Mattar
Eventually, we will return home. Perhaps it will be to the arms of open friendship from the Gallente. This is my truest hope, but those who share the views of Shemar will make that path difficult.
My views are that the Federation has no reason to trust the Caldari, when they openly threaten with war with every other word they say. Do not confuse that with my desire for peace.
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Posted - 2006.04.14 21:38:00 -
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Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
to be fair Mr. Shemar you have been very snarky lately for a supposedly neutral alliance
Do not confuse personal opinions with GLS policy. When the GLS says something offically, you will know it. 
Originally by: Tomahawk Bliss
you did claim proudly that you would out wait PIE by living in a station.
I do not deny that. Unlike most pod pilots I am perfectly capable of having a great time without undocking for long periods of time. I have many other interests, so a superior force attempting to intimidate me is wasting their time (and I can make sure they waste a whole lot of it). That is not to say that should the opportunity arise, where the odds are in my favor (and usually I consider one on one to be in my favor), I won't take advantage.
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Posted - 2006.04.15 03:05:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Funy, I flew through Gallente space not even a few days ago with a few others, with more than enough firepower to take down a few Federation battleship squads, and none of your Navy's ships seemed to mind.
Infact, despite the nuerous Federation ships I've destroyed in State space, your government still seems to like me...alot. Guess the Federation cares more about the Guristas, Blood Raiders and Angel Cartel ships I've destroyed than their own federation ones.
a. Your firepower means nothng compared to what an entire populated planet could produce and use.
b. We are not at war. I can fly in Caldari space with equal firepower, it means nothing. In fact I have spent months working for Caldari law enforcement agencies and I have even destroyed Federation ships in Caldari space (although in incredibly smaller numbers than Caldari and Amarr ships in Federation space). I see no problem with that. They have no business being there any more than the Amarr slavers and their Caldari escorts have any lawful reason to be in Federation space. They are a threat to the peace.
c. The fact that the Federation does not seem to mind, indicates that you dealt with rogue units and probably did the Navy a favor by eliminating them. I wish I could say the same, but unfortunately my continuous action against Caldari Navy ships withing Federation space has converted my positive standings with the Caldari State to negative, an obvious sign that I disrupted operations sanctioned by the Navy leadership.
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Posted - 2006.04.15 17:01:00 -
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I would rather not live under such a balance of terror and I am sure the inhabitants of both planets would agree. I also can't possibly see the Federation accepting an armed Caldari Prime. One serving as a demilitarized zone, acting as a source of income for both empires (under Caldari administration) is a proposal much more likely to be accepted.
I am fully in favor of an unarmed Caldari Prime returned to the Caldari. In fact I would urge pod pilots from both sides to come in contact with each other, draft a proposal and make an official petition to both governments to consider it.
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Posted - 2006.04.16 12:01:00 -
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I would not expect the Caldari to trust us in a day. If we give them Caldari Prime back, it will have to be a slow process, taking years. There is a significant Gallentean population on the planet that after all these years also considers it home. They would have to choose to move or accept life under Caldari administration. And I doubt the Caldari themselves will immediately swarm to colonize an isolated, undefended planet. I expect the growth of both the population on Caldari Prime and the trust between our people to be slow. But the gesture of giving it back or at least start talking about it between the two governments could go a long way towards a lasting peace.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 13:37:00 -
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Yilan, back to your cage now
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Posted - 2006.04.25 13:51:00 -
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Originally by: Yilan Cheran
Oh no, Shemar, truth and purity is finally getting out of it's cage, and no stuffhead, traitor or punk will ever put it back again, you'll see!
If you were anywhere close to representing the Gallente, I would personally invite the Amarr to enslave us all. Thankfully you are just a loud lunatic.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 13:58:00 -
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Yilan and Eden,
I have a splendid idea. Why don't you two go out on a date and sort things out? I'll provide free amm... I mean beverages.
After all, you may think you are different, but you are both the same idiotic, ignorant biomass.
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:50:00 -
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Talking to a Gallente nationalist lunatic as if he represents anything but his misguided self. Talking about finding ways for our people to come together and still can't stop posturing and beating your chests. That is why any kind of talk with the Caldari is useless. And you wonder why the average Gallente wants nothing to do with you. Go back to self congardulating each other (and I use the term very figuratively) about how succesfull you are little boys.
I think we are much better off relocating Matari refugees on Caldari Prime and starting to really make use of that fertile and mineral rich planet that for now is highly underused. I am going to look into some business opportunities there.
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