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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 07:39:00 -
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Has there been any word on when the sound engine will be upgraded from the early beta to the retail version?
I don't count the jukebox not digestin unrenamed .mp3 as upgraded version. --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 14:04:00 -
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@Uther: MS doesn't plan to release DX10 for XP. The repeatedly stated there wont be such a backport.
DX9 will be running under an emulation - later - maybe.
DX10 has nothing to offer above DX9 but requiring Vista with pre-handcuffed computer owners. --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 16:15:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Aure Just a slight Vista aside:
I have Vista running on an AthlonXP 1900+ with 512Mb of RAM and a GeForce MX 420 (I think).
Runs fine.
More like sneaks along and swaps like mad. The current Vista build idles in 600-800MB RAM.  --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:13:00 -
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Fantastic site. ExtremeTech roxxors. Where do they touch the problematic parts in Vista? They don't. Not at all. Not with a single word. Oh wait, why are all their ads about MS products? Why do they not state they tested Vista in its current state? They have no reports past the current installation process. Every word about Vista past the grafical installation walkthrough comes directly from the MS propaganda department. Where do they mention that MS includes all the nifty features again that cost MS a lot of cash in Europe due to legal problems and who might even make Vista fail hard because MS might be kicked hard out of the shelves?
I think you should test Vista on a few systems by yourself and get a feel for the system and the changes. Oh, and while you're at it, try using your existing hardware like scanners, digicams, PDA, printers, network devices, docking stations, etc. You might be a little surprised. --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 17:42:00 -
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Linux works for standard use the same way as Windows unless you have the newest hardware plugged in. The driver situation has improved a lot over the past three years.
Install and start the programs as usual. Most current distributions work on most standard systems out of the box. For many ISP you can setup your connections with a few clicks, choosing them from a list.
The look is a bit different, some features are not available, not useful or at another place. It is not Windows.
A good start are life-CDs like Knoppix. They include the most needed tools, text editors, a user interface and normally quite a lot of drivers so they work on many systems right away.
EVE wont run on those Life-CDs until you can find a Life-DVD with Cedega and EVE preinstalled and adjusted for your grafic card. Hmmm That is a nice idea ...
Many systems will be able to run games with OpenGL instead of DirectX right out of the box. --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 19:22:00 -
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ccp doesn't have the manpower to support and fix their current client. How big is the chance they're gonna support two clients?
Creative Labs cards are great, but their drivers are not worth the space they use on the system. At least they match the EVE sound engine as you have to reduce the hardware acceleration to get it running half way okay so the change to Vista is not a biggie there *grins ebilly*.
Actually most enterprises do not care about what people can do with ipods(?!) or USB devices as those at the top have no idea of most anything but the currently hyped cars and their ladies preferred presents. Upper row IBM manager to me: Could you please start my computer quickly? (The computer has been running and the screen saver was activated as required by IBM standards.)
The current Vista build needs much more resources to do the same Win2k does for years jsut fine. But for Win2k you can get drivers for most hardware, while you wont get many drivers for 'older' hardware for Vista. Older as in 'not in development for Q3 2006 or later. Modem, printers, network devices like office scanner/printer/fax/... telephone support, ... nothing works under Vista. Especially not if they're those fancy 'windows only' devices using the PC cpu. Most office workstations are very incompatible to Vista. Current notebooks will have more problems under Vista than they have with current Linux versions due to missing drivers. At least under Linux there is a chance that some other drivers at least partially make the built-in components available.
The corporate world will get exactly what they ever wanted according to MS. Problems with no way to get them fixed without buying 100% Vista compatible new hardware. --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |

Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.13 20:48:00 -
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@SengH: How do you get Vista drivers for (office) hardware that isn't currently in development? Or for hardware that is impossible to run under Vista by design - like those Windows-Only printers and Modems using the modem, and all the nice built-in devices using the CPU directly? There is a reason why they could not be used under Unix where direct hardware access wasn't allowed and that is implemeted in Vista too.
The Crytek demo cannot be real DX10 as the specs just have been fixed. They might have done a bit of wild guessing and only used the features that have been known earlier in the specification process.
@Tousaka: DX9 and DX10 aren't compatible. DX9 is emulated. Emulations are never faster than the real deal. There is a lot of other stuff the CPU has to do instead of some hardware under Vista because of the new driver model.
Vista uses way more resources from the start and certainly wont be faster than win2k or winXP. It will feel faster than WinXP though because it uses a lot more guesstimation about what the user will use soonish and preloading - once they get the guessing to work (wich requires big time spying and logging on the user and isn't legal in Germany and many other countries in Europe). --*=*=*-- Megadon CCP wanted a well known artist and celebrity to test the new font so it's approval would be well known. They got Ray |
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