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Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 4	Posted - 2011.11.11 18:39:00 - [1] - Quote It seems a lot of people are feeling a good deal of rectal pain about EVE University lately.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 10	Posted - 2011.11.14 23:40:00 - [2] - Quote It seems like this mass epidemic of rectal aneurysm caused by E-UNI's internal decisions and policies requires a dose of common sense as a treatment. E-UNI is a carebear organisation dedicated to farming L4s and asteroid belts - Wrong - E-UNI has its own PVP division which is dedicated to providing training in PVP to anyone who wants it. 6 months or so ago E-UNI's policy on NPC nullsec was changed from NRDS to NBSI to encourage people to get nullsec experience while in E-UNI. Many of the founding members of my own corporation took advantage of that new policy quite a bit and developed a desire to move to nullsec full time and have fun - hence the inception of Ponywaffe. E-UNI manipulates killboards to make themselves look better - So what - If you really look at obviously manipulated killmails which exist for the express purpose of the amusement of the CEO, and take them super super seriously, so what? It's not his problem. I mean really, is the water that contaminated around here that people really care that much about killboards and think this game is about killboard stats, and manipulation of them is tantamount to EVE Watergate or something? Wow. E-UNI doesn't provide training in real PVP, it just blobs - Wrong - E-UNI's PVP training is only as good as what people volunteer to help provide, and is directly attributable to the encouragement people experience to just step up and take a fleet out. War targets to E-UNI tend not to provide good fights when the war is declared unilaterally by a 20 man corp or whatever. New FCs are still intimated by nullsec and afraid to roam it (which becomes a vicious circle because they never step up to do it), meaning lowsec fleets basically just stumble into a pirate or two and gank them. E-UNI's PVP training certainly isn't perfect by any means, but it'd be a lot better with people making an effort to assist than making bitter comments about the corp. E-UNI has a teacher induction program if you want to help out, and the current state of the leadership seems, to me, to be more open now to improving the state of PVP training within the corp and presenting new opportunities to its members. I can certainly say, as a director of a nullsec corp, that the opportunities given to me to learn about the game by the policy change to NBSI in nullsec was very positive and helpful, and I think most if not all of our members who have come to us through E-UNI would say the same thing. TL;DR, OP and other whiners are wrong and should look into the available routes to helping the corporation improve its training instead of being whiney and not really doing anything to help.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2011.11.15 03:07:00 - [3] - Quote Asuri Kinnes wrote: Poetic Stanziel wrote: I can't answer the PVP'r directly above me, so I'll ignore it, and hope it goes away..... FYP. Go ahead, tell the guy he doesn't know what he's talking about... Xolani - Don't try to talk sense to the Pathetic Stammerer.... We're all just E-Uni graduate care bears..... I wasn't the only one who noticed that then.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2011.11.15 03:49:00 - [4] - Quote Also Enlightened Industries (now also part of TEST), founded by an ex-uni member. Lead Farmers (WH) TRECI (WH) Half of Agony Unleashed including a director is ex-uni The list goes on.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 15	Posted - 2011.11.15 04:08:00 - [5] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: That's fantastic that some ex-Uni went on to PvP, but I do notice that a majority of you still carry with you the same prejudices against PvP in highsec (e.g., griefdec, faildec, wardecs are bad, stop fighting newbs, blah blah blah, conflict is only cool if it's not in highsec.) Herp derp spoken to the guy who did a guest lecture on suicide ganking for e-uni.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 29	Posted - 2011.11.15 21:12:00 - [6] - Quote Ludi Burek wrote: Wait, are you telling me people pay for a game to go to pretend Uni? Do they actually fly around all proud they have this "degree" and stuff? . . . . . . . . . Yes, I've been aware of this "University" for years. It just still boggles the mind. It's a corp that helps teach new players. It doesn't mean everyone who goes there is a roleplayer.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 40	Posted - 2011.11.15 22:05:00 - [7] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Xolani1990 wrote: It's a corp that helps teach new players and supports the removal of PvP from highsec. Fixed. O That would be why Kelduum sent fleets out every day to fight Noir. and said in no uncertain terms he enjoyed that war.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 40	Posted - 2011.11.15 23:59:00 - [8] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Xolani1990 wrote: and said in no uncertain terms he enjoyed that war. From behind a spreadsheet? Kel's been on two fleets in three years. Kelduum enjoys everything until somebody does something he doesn't like. He enjoyed the hell out of the RvB fight until they attacked the Uni POS. That apparently crossed the line ... I enjoy the changing positions of these goalposts. Kelduum is averse to hisec PVP/wants hisec PVP removed -> Kelduum runs an organisation that does some hisec PVP but shooting their POS is over the line.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 40	Posted - 2011.11.16 00:46:00 - [9] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: No goalposts being changed. Just saying that Kelduum is full of crap. The dude wouldn't know if he enjoyed RvB because he didn't at all participate in it. Go find him on some killboards. Kelduum talking about PvP is even more ironic than me doing so. Though, I at least fly a ship in this game and have been all over sov nullsec. Oh you're under the impression that alliance leaders in general have the time to go pew pew all the time still. Cute.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 41	Posted - 2011.11.16 01:36:00 - [10] - Quote I like how Poetic tries to hold Mittens up on a pedestal or something when Mittens has shown nothing but disdain for him.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 41	Posted - 2011.11.16 02:52:00 - [11] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Whether you respect someone (or not) is entirely dependent on whether they respect you (or not)? How very Republican of you. I'm not even American brah, but touche. Quote: You spend a lot of time trying to build up Kelduum as something he's not. The irony of stating that he really loved the fight with Noir, when he didn't undock for the fight against Noir. As a director I sometimes have to miss fights, etc to do things that really I'd rather not have to do. It doesn't mean that when I see my corp or alliance come out on top in a fight, or generally just have a good fight, I don't feel accomplished for it however, because it's the boring hours myself and the other directors and CEO put in that make the corp, and by extension the fights its members get, possible. Just because Kelduum is a CEO who has to do much of the running of his large, high maintenance corp himself, doesn't mean he can't feel accomplished or feel good about having put the corp into a position to get, for example, good fights with Noir.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 41	Posted - 2011.11.16 03:45:00 - [12] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: It's just Kelduum being a douchebag. It was only a matter of time until you'd descend to poo poo head name calling.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 41	Posted - 2011.11.16 06:01:00 - [13] - Quote ShipToaster wrote: Will not speak for anyone else but I am not looking to help improve training and have no idea why you would think I am. What is it with people accusing me of whining all the time? I just noticed this. Nice way to imply you're actually Poetic's alt. It wouldn't be the first time you've used sockpuppets on the EVE-O forums.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 56	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:45:00 - [14] - Quote Asuri Kinnes wrote: Dunbar Hulan wrote: Does Eve Uni ever fly into Derelik or Curse? Can't be bothered going to far afield to look for them. I'll take the job for zip, I'll do it just for the lulz Depends, last I heard there were guys leading null-sec/low-sec roams. It changes with the turnover of pilots. I've seen them everywhere (sooner or later) - Not sure about recent events. We used to roam Curse and Great Wildlands all the time, it's what made the founding members of Ponywaffe develop a love for nullsec in the first place. E-UNI rules allow anyone to lead a fleet, anytime. The rules are actually fairly straight-forward in summary despite there being a rather long rules of engagement page, you can roam all of hisec and lowsec (where they're NRDS), all of WH space, and any NPC nullsec that isn't accessible only through sov null (where they're NBSI). What people do with those rules is down to the volition of individual FCs, who are just regular students and graduates in the corp who volunteer to take them out.
Xolani1990 PonyWaffe Test Alliance Please Ignore 56	Posted - 2011.11.18 05:51:00 - [15] - Quote Poetic Stanziel wrote: Emily Poast wrote: The old 'learning curve' picture is true. Places like EUNI encourage new players to stay. I have never seen statistics on it, but I am certain that the % of new solo people who quit eve after a month is gigantic. That is true. I've said as much. If EVE University were purely a teaching corp, there'd be no problem. But ~1000 of their members have no role in teaching or being taught. They are simply industrial carebears who should create their own corporations. How would you know this? Until the middle of this year I was a (relatively) senior member of staff on the HR Department for the corporation, and I know exactly what the typical volume of recruitment and student turnover is, and your statement of 1000 members of the corp not being there to learn is totally wrong. I do believe there are people in the corp who really do need to move on and let the corp focus on its goals (they usually get moved on by the directors when they start getting vocal about wanting the corp to move towards their own non-teaching objectives - just like you did), but to put that figure at 1000 (2/3 of the corp) is extremely inflated. A non-conservative estimate would be closer to a couple of dozen.

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