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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:11:00 -
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I'm frankly shocked--shocked, I say!--about the lack of tears/fanboi'ing/whatever else about this recent RR-aggression-mechanics change, so I'll kick it off.
(I really don't think it'll change anything, myself. Come on, CCP, where the f is the addition of a neutral RR docking/jumping aggression timer??? )
First, go here, and read this.
Now, discuss. Pro/con, for/against, whatever, and why.
FLAME ON!
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
George Wilkes Hill
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:12:00 -
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Good. |
Cpt Syrinx
Jovian Labs
Jovian Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:13:00 -
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on the first page |
proxwar
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:13:00 -
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CCP love high sec and its numerous isk printing bears.
CCP closed a loop hole that helped aid high sec griefers, now it's the griefers turn for tears 
The end. |
Digital Messiah
Heroic Era
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:15:00 -
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proxwar wrote:CCP love high sec and its numerous isk printing bears. CCP closed a loop hole that helped aid high sec griefers, now it's the griefers turn for tears The end.
Troof
"Frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn" |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:15:00 -
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More rage.
Moar rage!
I WANT MOAR RAGE!!!!
Come on, you know you want to.
E: Besides, hisec warfare was finished a long time ago...
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
seany1212
Mind Games.
0ccupational Hazzard
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:17:00 -
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Meh indifferent, its mainly a change to help the stupid. Anyone repping a neutral they didnt know i suppose deserved to get popped if the person they were repping chose to go GCC, its not like they can outrep concord now |
T' Elk
Happy Little Spaceships
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:17:00 -
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Gimme a sec, im getting my camcorder out... Please, OP, continue.
God wears-áRay Ban Aviators. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:23:00 -
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T' Elk wrote:Gimme a sec, im getting my camcorder out... Please, OP, continue.
Oh no, not me, mate:
Couldn't care less either way, as hisec war is quite perfectly broken regardless, and will remain so until CCP eliminates or at least sharply penalises the use of "dec-shielding" and institutes a docking/jumping aggro timer for neutral RR asshattery.
I am, however, inviting others to, as we say in Canada, "Fill yer boots, eh!"
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
XIRUSPHERE
In Bacon We Trust
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:23:00 -
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what I would like to know is if they can hammer out a mechanics fix like this after a few days why is it that logistics do not inherit the session penalties associated with aggression? If you can do this for the incursion bears then you can damn well do this for the station bears that rely on effectively invincible neutral logi that can dock up the minute it takes damage.
This also applies to logi that sits on star gates and is able to jump through if the tide ever turns against them.
TLDR: If your going to screw with aggression mechanics fix all the glaring problems with them instead of catering to an uncontrolled source of inflation.
The advantage of a bad memory is that one can enjoy the same good things for the first time several times.
One will rarely err if extreme actions be ascribed to vanity, ordinary actions to habit, and mean actions to fear. |
T' Elk
Happy Little Spaceships
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:26:00 -
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Lyrrashae wrote: as we say in Canada, "Fill yer boots, eh!"
I thought in french canadia you say "Retraite!!!"
God wears-áRay Ban Aviators. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:26:00 -
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XIRUSPHERE wrote:what I would like to know is if they can hammer out a mechanics fix like this after a few days why is it that logistics do not inherit the session penalties associated with aggression? If you can do this for the incursion bears then you can damn well do this for the station bears that rely on effectively invincible neutral logi that can dock up the minute it takes damage.
This also applies to logi that sits on star gates and is able to jump through if the tide ever turns against them.
TLDR: If your going to screw with aggression mechanics fix all the glaring problems with them instead of catering to an uncontrolled source of inflation.
^^This. Quoted for great Truth, Justice, and Honour(TM).
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.11.11 00:31:00 -
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T' Elk wrote:Lyrrashae wrote: as we say in Canada, "Fill yer boots, eh!"
I thought in french canadia you say " Retraite!!!"
And what makes you think I'm French-Canadian (though I'm from Montreal originally, so because I'm feeling generous, then I guess I can credit you with some...unwitting perspicacity)? That's the noun, actually, the verb used to call a retreat would actually be "retraitez!"
I thought even in Yankistanian Yankistan you'd use jokes more recent than 2002, and a little less lame?
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Russell Casey
One Ton
Reverberation Project
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Posted - 2011.11.11 01:18:00 -
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This isn't about war decs, it's about incursion griefing. One guy flags himself to pirate buddies, gets someone to rep him, then pirates kill them. Skunkworks did their job too well. Letting people dec-evade is CCP's way of saying they don't want to bother with fixing wars right now. |
Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.11.11 05:19:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:This isn't about war decs, it's about incursion griefing. One guy flags himself to pirate buddies, gets someone to rep him, then pirates kill them. Skunkworks did their job too well. Letting people dec-evade is CCP's way of saying they don't want to bother with fixing wars right now.
And, this^^
Someone reeeeeaaaally needs to make Incursions have a hard time-limit, so the quick/easy sites can't be farmed 23.5/7...
I A/F/K cloak in Jita. Does that count? |
Jenshae Chiroptera
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Posted - 2011.11.11 05:25:00 -
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There should be a change for war decs. If you a logistics pilot confirms they want to rep someone then they get the same kill rights as the side they are repairing.
So the enemies can kill them for as long as the war lasts and they can attack the enemy for the war. Them being shot will not create aggression or kill rights for their corp or alliance toward the enemies.
Ideas and CSM stuff
No matter the changes, high sec people chose the safests. Lots of stick and they will leave. Half the problem is the players in null sec; we do not want to be there with you. |
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