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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2003.09.17 08:59:00 -
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Cast your voteà.here is the back groundà. I had tracked two minmitar warriors to their location after a tip off from an friend. The usual pre battle insults and boasts where exchanged before the battle was joined my maller v 2 minmitar cruisers.
In the first engagement I was forced to retreat having lost my shields and only reducing one minmitar cruiserÆs shields I was not only facing 2 cruisers but their full compliment of heavy and light drones and heavy missiles.
After the tactical retreat to think things over and come up with a new tactic as raw fire power was not doing the trick I came up with a cunning plan. I warped back into the fray all guns blazing and plotted my course toward the station at a steady 171 m/s. Getting close to the station would give me cover from the missiles that where shredding my shields indeed I was reduced to 50% armour before I reached the station.
Now heading for the station will give me the tactical advantage of stopping the enemy from using the missiles that where destroying my shields and armour because of the splash damage it would cause to the station. This tactic would give me the upper hand I feel as it was still 2v1 and they still had a number of drones out.
Unfortunately this was not the case they kept on launching the missiles and yes the sentry guns ripped into their already much damaged ships destroying them.
The question is this did I use a valid tactic to gain victory over a foe with superior fire power or did I cheat and use a well documented game mechanic.
I am a fair person as all who know me will testify (I hope) I am putting this to a vote if I am found guilty of cheating I will give them new ships. This is not an RP vote so please keep you love and hate for the Amarr and minmitar out of it, its just a vote on if you feel I cheated.
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:09:00 -
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That's funny.
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The Monk
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:10:00 -
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Yeah thats totaly fair if they are dumn enough to fire missiles at the station then they deserved to be killed by the sents.
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Darsk'hul
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:16:00 -
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Well done Cold Lazarus 
You were right ! 
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Enderweeks
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:19:00 -
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That's got to be a valid tactic with all the information in these forums but if you feel you would like to ease your guilty conscience then perhaps recompense one of them
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DB Preacher
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:21:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/09/2003 09:22:02
I agree it was a valid move. I used to hide inside asteroids to avoid NPC missiles
I used the tactic later against a ship who had tried to attack me in 1.0 space. That time i flew directly towards his buddy and laughed as the missiles hit him and not me and watched concord destroy them both.
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Lola
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:23:00 -
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Edited by: DB Preacher on 17/09/2003 09:22:02
I used the tactic later against a ship who had tried to attack me in 1.0 space. That time i flew directly towards his buddy and laughed as the missiles hit him and not me and watched concord destroy them both.
ROFL 
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Ashton Black
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:26:00 -
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Nothing wrong with that... used somthing similar at a stargate...
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BrazHos
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:54:00 -
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Cheesy, probably.. but still a valid tactic especially considering 2 vs 1.
They maybe should have just sent drones at you near station.
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Skaz
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Posted - 2003.09.17 09:56:00 -
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Thats a valid tactic IMHO but you can bet that I would be ****ed off if someone used that against me, but hey if your dumb enough to not consider the splash damage, you deserve to die I guess.
I mean tactics is using your head, you used yours they didn't, hence you had much better tactics.
It saddens me that my Minmatar brethren are not thinking matters through.....
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Asmodia
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:01:00 -
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Hiding in base is a lame Carebear tactic .....
just kidding
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Ka'loor
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:03:00 -
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Absolutely valid tactic......splash damage is widely known, and CONCORD is hated for it :)
On a rp side note.....you coward, hiding beneath civilian assets :)
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SlightlyMad
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:06:00 -
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The question is this did I use a valid tactic to gain victory over a foe with superior fire power or did I cheat and use a well documented game mechanic.
Dude.. that ruled.
Brains over firepower.
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Demangel
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:26:00 -
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I hereby dub that the Cold Lazerus tactic! I will be adding it to my repitiour heheh!
Seriously not only fair, but well played, THIS is the kind of strategic fighting I was hoping EVE would have in it!
Even if I had lost because of that and got ****ed, i would be happy that it happened from your intelect and not just your damn uber guns .
Damn good show! wish I had seen it!
Next you should try asteroid belts, You won't have turets pounding your minni enemies, but if you hide in the dense part of the belt, thier missiles won't be as likely to hit you at all. If you do it right no missile can hit you, and it's completely FAIR!
Let us know how it turns out!
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:37:00 -
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I'm in agreement, that's just smart thinking.
Or possibly, it's daft thinking from the other guys.
whichever way, there is a thinking unbalance betwixt the two parties, And Cold is the victor.
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Kerry
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:46:00 -
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I'm in agreement, that's just smart thinking.
Or possibly, it's daft thinking from the other guys.
whichever way, there is a thinking unbalance betwixt the two parties, And Cold is the victor.
shhhhh or CCP will nerf his thinking while trying to balance out player intelligence.
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Demangel
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:50:00 -
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shhhhh or CCP will nerf his thinking while trying to balance out player intelligence.
LOL if that happens EVE becomes a coaster... At least in my house 
Galaxion > If you drove a car shaped like a thorax women would call you
Demangel > Dude... I would call..
Demangel > wait that sounded g@y I bet.
Galaxion > Just a bit.
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Daesdemona
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Posted - 2003.09.17 10:51:00 -
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isn't it already?
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Severe McCald
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Posted - 2003.09.17 11:04:00 -
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Yep, totally valid, your opponents deserved to die for failing to think about splash. How many times have I really, really wanted to use my smartbomb near a gate; but I'm not that stupid.
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2003.09.17 11:54:00 -
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I thank all who have voted so far.I will give it untill 00:00 gmt to close the vote down. but so far so good with most replies in favour of a tactical victory
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Khal St
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Posted - 2003.09.17 11:59:00 -
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The 'COLD LAZARUS' manoeuvre gets my vote 
Nice one...
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Arthur Guinness
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:17:00 -
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It's a valid tactic. It not fair. It shows that there's still many things to balance with weapons. Imho they should change the behaviour of sentry guns. You were the one getting the station into danger, so the guns should shoot you :D
you're enemies weren't too smart either :)
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Ruby Stone
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:26:00 -
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Not only a valid tactic, but a brilliant bit of tactics.
Well done.
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Vacuole
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Posted - 2003.09.17 12:34:00 -
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Since both sides have the same opportunity to know all about how those game mechanics work, then it's perfectly legit.
I'm suprised you managed to lure them.. good work.
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cold lazarus
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:48:00 -
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I was going to give this topic untill 00:00 hours 18/09/03 but as it hit the back pages and not getting replies i will take the votes as is. all voted in favour of tactics .
The fact that i have been vindicated by my peers has allowed me enjoy my victory.. thank you again
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Gigi Ana
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:53:00 -
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Edited by: Gigi Ana on 17/09/2003 15:14:42
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The 'COLD LAZARUS' manoeuvre gets my vote
Mine too.
Er, polls have closed, darn.
Oh well. I'm making notes now ...
COLD LAZARUS MANEUVER - When overwhelmed by missile users, maneuver so the splash damage from your opponent's missiles will bring the wrath of Concord upon them.
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Jash Illian
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Posted - 2003.09.17 14:53:00 -
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It's valid but fraid others have used it before so naming it after you might not be appropriate.
Had it done to me with the guy using MWD tojet around the backside of the station while my cruise missiles were in flight. Soon as I saw what was going to happen, I start searching for anyplace to warp to that wasn't a station aligned with what was coming.
Luckily it was before the tech lvl III sentry guns were added so my ship took 2-3 shots before warping off.
I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann
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Lan2
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:00:00 -
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very nice move. Very nice.
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Von Wulfe
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:13:00 -
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*Golf Clap*
Seriously, there are some very fine tacticians in this game. I suggest we create a Tactician Post... and use replies as follows;
Cold Lazuraus -
Maneuver in which the defending ship moves close to an Epire structure. The splash damage from attacking ships cause the Empire structure to engage the threat.
This could be useful information in the game manual... rather than what is currently out there.
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Jehova
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Posted - 2003.09.17 15:30:00 -
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It's valid but fraid others have used it before so naming it after you might not be appropriate.
Had it done to me with the guy using MWD tojet around the backside of the station while my cruise missiles were in flight. Soon as I saw what was going to happen, I start searching for anyplace to warp to that wasn't a station aligned with what was coming.
Luckily it was before the tech lvl III sentry guns were added so my ship took 2-3 shots before warping off.
Would be nice with a "Self Destruct" command for missiles that cause them to implode.
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