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Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.02.21 13:55:00 -
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Nice simple question:
Can any member of the same corp pick up a PI producers launched containers? |
Fregonesi86 Joringer
Negative-Impact
Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.02.21 15:42:00 -
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no, just you |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.02.21 16:11:00 -
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nice simple answer, that fixes the alts training to include haulers then :) Thanks |
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2014.02.21 19:38:00 -
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Fregonesi86 Joringer wrote:no, just you
This is completely false.
The PI cans launched from a planet are identical in all respects to cargo containers. Anyone can open them and take what is within. You just need a very fast ship to get there in a reasonable amount of time (interceptor), and some d-scan know-how. The can always spawns about 10,000km from the POCO grid.
And before you ask, yes, I've d-scanned and stolen someone else's PI can.
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.02.22 11:31:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:Fregonesi86 Joringer wrote:no, just you This is completely false. The PI cans launched from a planet are identical in all respects to cargo containers. Anyone can open them and take what is within. You just need a very fast ship to get there in a reasonable amount of time (interceptor), and some d-scan know-how. The can always spawns about 10,000km from the POCO grid. And before you ask, yes, I've d-scanned and stolen someone else's PI can.
Thanks for clarifying, this is what I had thought. So with a bit of magaement and timing I can collect each alts launched goods with my hauler char whilst the alts are training there hauler skills. Means I can get them producing sooner :)
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.02.22 12:59:00 -
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Soldarius wrote:Fregonesi86 Joringer wrote:no, just you This is completely false. The PI cans launched from a planet are identical in all respects to cargo containers. Anyone can open them and take what is within. You just need a very fast ship to get there in a reasonable amount of time (interceptor), and some d-scan know-how. The can always spawns about 10,000km from the POCO grid. And before you ask, yes, I've d-scanned and stolen someone else's PI can.
No. It's not completely false.
There is no way to "assign" POCO material or launched material to another corp member.
Also, when using your scanning method, one has no way of knowing who the container belongs to. It could belong to any other corp that has launched as well.
So, the correct answer is "partially" false.
Snarking on players as you did does not really impart useful information at all. I'm just sayin'.............
Also, d-scanning these things is a rather time-consuming and ISK inefficient method of either pick-up, or stealing. And all for a pathetic 500m3 of Enriched Uranium or whatever. But congratulations on the accomplishment anyways.
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.02.22 13:44:00 -
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OK I'll clarify what I thought I may be able to do. I was hoping to skill my alt(s) up in PI and have them launch completed P2's, then pick the cans up with my main by sending the locations to him. I was hoping that this would not make me suspect in the process.
Probably easier just to skill the alts in haulers too. |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.02.22 14:38:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:OK I'll clarify what I thought I may be able to do. I was hoping to skill my alt(s) up in PI and have them launch completed P2's, then pick the cans up with my main by sending the locations to him. I was hoping that this would not make me suspect in the process.
Probably easier just to skill the alts in haulers too.
This is actually a rather dangerous way of doing PI, especially if you are operating in Low Sec.
You will be warping and decloaking over and over again in practically the same spot, and you will be found.
Also, there is a time limit that's rather longish between launches. You'll be stopping whatever you are doing ingame to tend to this constantly. Just in a 24 hour extraction, just one of my planets generates about 4,000m3 of finished P2. That would take 8 launches throughout the day. In my case, I have 30 planets, so this would definitely not be something worthwhile at all.
What's the issue that you don't want to just do a normal POCO pickup ? So much so that you feel it's better to do launches instead ??
That has not been explained.
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.02.22 15:07:00 -
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Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:OK I'll clarify what I thought I may be able to do. I was hoping to skill my alt(s) up in PI and have them launch completed P2's, then pick the cans up with my main by sending the locations to him. I was hoping that this would not make me suspect in the process.
Probably easier just to skill the alts in haulers too. This is actually a rather dangerous way of doing PI, especially if you are operating in Low Sec. You will be warping and decloaking over and over again in practically the same spot, and you will be found. Also, there is a time limit that's rather longish between launches. You'll be stopping whatever you are doing ingame to tend to this constantly. Just in a 24 hour extraction, just one of my planets generates about 4,000m3 of finished P2. That would take 8 launches throughout the day. In my case, I have 30 planets, so this would definitely not be something worthwhile at all. What's the issue that you don't want to just do a normal POCO pickup ? So much so that you feel it's better to do launches instead ?? That has not been explained.
It was just to be a stopgap, get the PI stuff running first then do the pickups whilst training for the hauler. Currently I don't use a blockade runner for my pickups anyway, add to the sense of danger :D
That said blockade runner training will complete on my main shortly... |
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.02.22 23:42:00 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:
That said blockade runner training will complete on my main shortly...
Don't forget about the Deep Space Transports if you need more cargohold. You can hang some extra warp stabbers on them as well.
Just perfect the Cloak/MWD trick.
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
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Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.02.22 23:50:00 -
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I think viator will be fine I just leave it at the nearest hisec system to where my planets are then run over in the epithal, swap ships, gather the goodies into the epithal for shipping back en-masse :) right now I use a cheap loot fit nereus so viator will be a big step up...
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Silvetica Dian
Manson Family
Advent of Fate
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Posted - 2014.02.23 13:22:00 -
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Epithal for low sec PI is great.
You can fit align rigs.
it can fit a decent shield tank.
You can pack the lows with warp core stabs.
It can fit a Mwd and a cloak for MWD /align/cloak /decloak/warp trick.
It has a huge PI bay.
cloaky haulers are great too and often better but don't forget this excellent t1 hauler
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When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is.
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Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:07:00 -
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For low sec PI, I exercise the advice learned from Monty Python: How Not to be Seen ! 
"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."-á - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882 |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.02.23 15:08:00 -
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I see your Monty Python and raise you a Douglas Adams...paint the epithal pink and put some batteries in it...instant SEP... |
Sola Mercury
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.02.23 21:03:00 -
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I once did ninja PI in a wormhole.
Produced P2 on various planets.
It's been a while since then, but this comes to mind:
There are two cooldowns concerning Command center launches.
first, the launch cooldown, this was never a problem, it is short.
A second cooldown results from expedited transfers from a storage to the command center.
This cooldown can be lowered greatly by upgrading the links used from storage to command center.
If memory serves me correctly, the containers spawn the moment you init warp to them.
Right after launch only a signature / bookmark exists. |
Corraidhin Farsaidh
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:25:00 -
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Thanks for the feedback, I didn't know that upgrading the link shortened the cooldown timer. |
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