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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.14 22:34:00 -
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I will finance a War against SNIGG (S******dly Corp).
100 million isk will be paid to finance this war.
I want no fewer than 20 frozen corpses from SNIGG members however 5 of each MUST come from Tomar Lyonsbane and Amos Sommers each.
Those of you who have the means and wish to take this contract can eve-mail me in-game to make arrangements for the pay-off upon receipt of the aforementioned frozen corpses.
Look at this as an excuse to attack SNIGG as often as possible in order to collect the required number of frozen corpses.
This offer expires within 30 days.
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xStormwingx
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Posted - 2006.04.14 22:37:00 -
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*giggles*
*chokes on orange juice*
yar, good luck with this m8 
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TRDMN1
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Posted - 2006.04.14 22:40:00 -
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Thats the spirit, if someone ganks you, dont give up/in, save up and hire the entire MC to kill them for a month.
Cost ya a pretty pennie tho
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Midas Mulligann
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Posted - 2006.04.14 22:49:00 -
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why not just put a 50mill bounty on both their heads
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Backdoor Bandit
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Posted - 2006.04.14 22:52:00 -
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T3h MGRL will take this contract.
Money up front pse. -------------
------------- MGRL Eligibility Test |

Servitor01
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Posted - 2006.04.14 23:08:00 -
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100 mil for snigg 
um yeah gl w taht
imho that isk is better spent recouping losses and moving on but eh to each his own
/me grabs popcorn adn hopes thread gets more intresting 
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Tasuric Orka
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Posted - 2006.04.14 23:08:00 -
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100mil seems a little.. i dont know.. cheap?
SNIGG doesnt seem like a bunch of pushovers.. and a battleship WITHOUT mods costs 100million by itself. ________________________________________________ Hypocritical. |

Cpt Placeholder
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Posted - 2006.04.14 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Cpt Placeholder on 14/04/2006 23:12:34 seeing the post(er) above me made me go OMFG
edit-> referring to backdoor bandit had to recover from the shock before typing
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vile56
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Posted - 2006.04.14 23:50:00 -
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well i dont think 100 mil will get u anything. And almost all snig are -5 so no need for a war.
but on the plus side snig might have some good fights if someone does take this on.
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Black 1
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Posted - 2006.04.15 00:46:00 -
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/signed
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Kerm
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:02:00 -
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Edited by: Kerm on 15/04/2006 01:02:18 Not to rain on your parade or anything...but if your gona wage war against Snigg, I think you left a "0" off the end of that asking price
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:12:00 -
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Okay then if there are no takers at 100 mil isk then how much would this little adventure cost ?
So far I am NOT at all impressed with the responses I have read. Everyone is giving excuses or reasons why taking action would be expensive. Everyone is too afraid of suffering a loss and this is why the folks at SNIGG are simply laughing their arses off over this one to be sure.
Well let's all huggle close to them starbases in 1.0 space and remain unganked shall we ? - LOL |

MrCue
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: MrCue on 15/04/2006 01:17:20 If you are serious, then there are merc corps that will take the contract, however, 100m is not even close to the fees that most charge.
Try contacting some people in the stickied thread above "Mercenaries List" and getting some price estimations.
Killmail Database |

Necrologic
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:18:00 -
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I actually have the corpses you want. Do i qualify for this contract?
*clap* |

Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:35:00 -
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Declaring war only makes our job easier 
Also, based on Tomar's history, I think it'll take about 3 more years to get 5 of his corpses 
Good luck with the revenge business.
Shamis
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:36:00 -
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Originally by: Necrologic I actually have the corpses you want. Do i qualify for this contract?
Sure, meet me alone so I can add YOUR frozen hide to the list ! - LOL |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Declaring war only makes our job easier 
Also, based on Tomar's history, I think it'll take about 3 more years to get 5 of his corpses 
Good luck with the revenge business.
Shamis
You SNIGG lamers completely failed to take the 1 billion isk worth of morphite I was guarding when you found me. - LOL
And I thought you thieves and ganksters were smart. - LOL Now I know I was completely wrong about you...  |

Rasitiln
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:42:00 -
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you had 3 giant cans with passwords and they are anchored. More than likely you are just lieing. if you had a billion isk worth of morphite I would think you could hire mercs at a decent rate
That 1% was enough - Wrangler |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:45:00 -
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Eve as a game needs a serious contract-to-kill features to allow peeps who get ganked to issue globally available kill contracts. The bounty system was flawed from the beginning. I would like to be able to put 1 billion isk on a kill-contract available to all collectable by groups so that those who gank me can be killed using a verifiable system. This kill-contract system should disallow members of the target's corp from being elligible. It should notify the person who sanctioned the contract when the deed is done. It should allow a bonus to be paid if the kill is performed during some period of time, say 10 days or 30 days or whatever.
Come on Eve Developers - give us this type of contract-to-kill system. |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:47:00 -
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Originally by: Rasitiln you had 3 giant cans with passwords and they are anchored. More than likely you are just lieing. if you had a billion isk worth of morphite I would think you could hire mercs at a decent rate
Yesh, this is what you were supposed to think. There is no better place to hide valuables than in plain sight for all to see in such a manner so as to make would-be thieves conclude exactly what you concluded. "There is nothing valuable here." |

Pat Lepak
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:53:00 -
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I thought you couldnt claim bounty for Corp memmbers ?
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oldmailman
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Posted - 2006.04.15 02:12:00 -
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Edited by: oldmailman on 15/04/2006 02:12:21 Please stay on topic - Thread edited for topic and content Thank you
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 02:20:00 -
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Originally by: Pat Lepak I thought you couldnt claim bounty for Corp memmbers ?
Bounty system has been flawed from the beginning of EVE because a Bounty can be claimed by anyone; a corp mate, an alt char or anyone.
Bounty system "should have" been crafted to keep alt chars or corp mates from claiming a bounty. Alt chars are easy to detect because the Subscriber's database links one's alt chars to the human that owns them. One little SQL Query behind the scenes would have allowed the EVE Dev to craft a suitably secure unexploitable Bounty system that Eve lacks. The other way to detect an alt char is to check the IP address at runtime because most people who play alts have broadband which means a single IP address is being played by more than one account at a time. Some people may have dedicated IP addresses which means the alt char detection would need to be tied to a broader range of IP addresses. Another way to detect alts is to check when commands are sent from the EVE client. People who use alts to collect their own Bounties do so by coordinating their alts closely to the actions of the character they are killing for the money.
Bottom line is the Bounty System is flawed and is therefore useless for obtaining retribution for crimes.
The other thing EVE needs is an NPC or gang of NPC's that can be hired to track down and kill players for a cost. Pay enough isk and you should be able to buy a fleet of NPC's to take retribution.
The next thing EVE needs is the ability to hire NPC haulers to aid small mining corps. Pay enough isk and it should be possible to hire a bunch of haulers to help one mine. |

Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.15 02:22:00 -
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Edited by: Deja Thoris on 15/04/2006 02:22:59 Shamis admitted to me in private convo hes scared and thinking about leaving.
Deja Thoris> You know some random dude is offering 100mill for a war against your corp? Shamis> Holy ****! I'm screwed. I may have to hide in a noob corp till this blows over
He's since left to join Snigwaffe. This is undeniable evidence of his cowardice. I suggest you submit an exploit petition using the convo snippet as evidence.
Good luck!
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 02:36:00 -
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Edited by: Jacque Sparrow on 15/04/2006 02:39:10
Originally by: Deja Thoris Edited by: Deja Thoris on 15/04/2006 02:22:59 Shamis admitted to me in private convo hes scared and thinking about leaving.
Deja Thoris> You know some random dude is offering 100mill for a war against your corp? Shamis> Holy ****! I'm screwed. I may have to hide in a noob corp till this blows over
He's since left to join Snigwaffe. This is undeniable evidence of his cowardice. I suggest you submit an exploit petition using the convo snippet as evidence.
Good luck!
After reading this I was tempted to begin believing in the Easter Bunny again - LOL.
I will say, if there were a contract-to-kill system in EVE right now I would have dropped 400 mil isk on a contract to kill Tomar Lyonsbane - just for the entertainment value of doing so. But as it is there is no sure way to get retribution in EVE and so doing so is worthless. |

Solovej
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Posted - 2006.04.15 02:40:00 -
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Edited by: Solovej on 15/04/2006 02:41:04
ah, how good to feel loved
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Necrologic
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Posted - 2006.04.15 02:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Rasitiln you had 3 giant cans with passwords and they are anchored. More than likely you are just lieing. if you had a billion isk worth of morphite I would think you could hire mercs at a decent rate
Yesh, this is what you were supposed to think. There is no better place to hide valuables than in plain sight for all to see in such a manner so as to make would-be thieves conclude exactly what you concluded. "There is nothing valuable here."
I usually hide my valuables in my hanger where nobody can get it. signature removed - please email us if you want to know why - Oldmailman ([email protected]) |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 03:17:00 -
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Originally by: Necrologic
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Rasitiln you had 3 giant cans with passwords and they are anchored. More than likely you are just lieing. if you had a billion isk worth of morphite I would think you could hire mercs at a decent rate
Yesh, this is what you were supposed to think. There is no better place to hide valuables than in plain sight for all to see in such a manner so as to make would-be thieves conclude exactly what you concluded. "There is nothing valuable here."
I usually hide my valuables in my hanger where nobody can get it.
Heh, remind me to create an alt char so i can get into your good graces and steal all your vluables from your corp hangars. - LOL |

Necrologic
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Posted - 2006.04.15 03:19:00 -
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Edited by: Necrologic on 15/04/2006 03:19:10
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Necrologic
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Rasitiln you had 3 giant cans with passwords and they are anchored. More than likely you are just lieing. if you had a billion isk worth of morphite I would think you could hire mercs at a decent rate
Yesh, this is what you were supposed to think. There is no better place to hide valuables than in plain sight for all to see in such a manner so as to make would-be thieves conclude exactly what you concluded. "There is nothing valuable here."
I usually hide my valuables in my hanger where nobody can get it.
Heh, remind me to create an alt char so i can get into your good graces and steal all your vluables from your corp hangars. - LOL
Originally by: Necrologic my hanger
signature removed - please email us if you want to know why - Oldmailman ([email protected]) |

Spyres
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Posted - 2006.04.15 03:53:00 -
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I'll do it. Just need to go through some calculations. 100m won't buy a HAC I can fly.
Hmmm. Could get a BS I suppose - have to be tier 1 though. Let's say a Domi. They're about 60 right? Let's go with insurance aswell, be a shame to waste all the money. That leaves me about 20 to fit it and buy drones and whatnot. Better stick with cheapish NOS, and regulation tanking gear, can't afford much else. Tech 1 drones aswell.
Ok, I'm ready.

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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 04:14:00 -
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Originally by: Spyres I'll do it. Just need to go through some calculations. 100m won't buy a HAC I can fly.
Hmmm. Could get a BS I suppose - have to be tier 1 though. Let's say a Domi. They're about 60 right? Let's go with insurance aswell, be a shame to waste all the money. That leaves me about 20 to fit it and buy drones and whatnot. Better stick with cheapish NOS, and regulation tanking gear, can't afford much else. Tech 1 drones aswell.
Ok, I'm ready.

And did you employer in real life have to buy you a car you could drive to work each day or were you expected to cover the cost of your own transportation to get to and from work each day ?
Personally, I have never been in an employment situation in real life where an employer could be coerced into buying me a car just in case I happened to wreck my car on my way to or from work each day.
Nobody pays people based on their expectations of loss. People are paid based on the work to be done.
100 mil isk in EVE should be more than enough to cover the AMMO a medium sized corporation might expend during a single battle. Unless those of you who have the manpower are so afraid of loss than you cannot take on this task unless you are assured of not losing your nice shiney ships in the process. Heck ship insurance pays for the replacement of your ship. I lost my Scorp and hopped right into my Dom then paid my ship insurance and had 10 mil isk left over. So I had 2 BS's - doesn't everyone ? I would have to be podded about 8 times before I'd have to stop to rebuild a new BS. Had I managed to lose 8 BS's I would be assured of having at least one new BS for FREE as long as I remembered to pay for the insurance before hopping into my next BS. Ships in EVE are virtually FREE and still peeps are crying about losing ships ?!? Can we get a grip here folks ?
3 peeps attacked me - it took that many to do the job.
100 mil isk pays premium BS insurance for something like 4 BS's. 100 mil isk also pays for 2 BS's insurance along with 2-3 T2 friggies and 2-3 Battlecruisers all with premium ship insurance. Once the job is done even if everyone loses their ships there would still be ample isk left over to help ease the loss and everyone gets a new ship virtually for FREE just because that's the way EVE is for all us players who pay to play. Heck, if I had a small corporation of 8 players suitably equip'd I would have no problem collecting this 100 mil isk. Of course I would use 2-3 Stealth Friggies to help nail down the targets before bringing the rest of the fleet to attack. Send in Stealth Friggies nice and cloaked. Scope out the battle and get warp-in points. Warp in the T2 attack friggies to begin the battle. Warp in the BattleCruisers to block and lock-down the targets. Warp in the BS's to blast from afar. Before you know it the targets are dead and no friendly ships lost.
Anyone care to tell me how wrong I am about all this ? Because I would be using the exact tactics that were used on me in reverse so I know these tactics work. |

Uggster
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Posted - 2006.04.15 04:39:00 -
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Clueless

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Spyres
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Posted - 2006.04.15 04:53:00 -
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Edited by: Spyres on 15/04/2006 04:53:49
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Spyres I'll do it. Just need to go through some calculations. 100m won't buy a HAC I can fly.
Hmmm. Could get a BS I suppose - have to be tier 1 though. Let's say a Domi. They're about 60 right? Let's go with insurance aswell, be a shame to waste all the money. That leaves me about 20 to fit it and buy drones and whatnot. Better stick with cheapish NOS, and regulation tanking gear, can't afford much else. Tech 1 drones aswell.
Ok, I'm ready.

And did you employer in real life have to buy you a car you could drive to work each day or were you expected to cover the cost of your own transportation to get to and from work each day ?
Personally, I have never been in an employment situation in real life where an employer could be coerced into buying me a car just in case I happened to wreck my car on my way to or from work each day.
Nobody pays people based on their expectations of loss. People are paid based on the work to be done.
Um, company car?
But hey man, apologies for my misunderstanding, it's just you said you would 'finance the war', and I'd have to buy a new ship, 'cos I only fly mining barges.
EDIT - gl with the war though buddy. I know heaps of corps that would jump at the chance to have their ammo paid for.
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Spyres Edited by: Spyres on 15/04/2006 04:53:49
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Spyres I'll do it. Just need to go through some calculations. 100m won't buy a HAC I can fly.
Hmmm. Could get a BS I suppose - have to be tier 1 though. Let's say a Domi. They're about 60 right? Let's go with insurance aswell, be a shame to waste all the money. That leaves me about 20 to fit it and buy drones and whatnot. Better stick with cheapish NOS, and regulation tanking gear, can't afford much else. Tech 1 drones aswell.
Ok, I'm ready.

And did you employer in real life have to buy you a car you could drive to work each day or were you expected to cover the cost of your own transportation to get to and from work each day ?
Personally, I have never been in an employment situation in real life where an employer could be coerced into buying me a car just in case I happened to wreck my car on my way to or from work each day.
Nobody pays people based on their expectations of loss. People are paid based on the work to be done.
Um, company car?
But hey man, apologies for my misunderstanding, it's just you said you would 'finance the war', and I'd have to buy a new ship, 'cos I only fly mining barges.
EDIT - gl with the war though buddy. I know heaps of corps that would jump at the chance to have their ammo paid for.
Obviously none of the corps that would "jump" at the chance to have their AMMO paid for read the Forums.
100 mil isk pays for the AMMO, pays for the ship insurance and pays a nice bonus for completing the task.
Look at it this way folks, if those of us who got ganked were to become just a little organized we might be able to band together and all declare war on the offenders and then proceed to hunt down the offenders and bring law and order to the universe of EVE. Now wouldn't that be a fun game to play ? Apparently not, huh ? *yawn* |

B0rn2KiLL
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Posted - 2006.04.15 05:27:00 -
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heh --- When It Absolutely Positively Has To Be Desotroyed. |

Beastor
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Posted - 2006.04.15 05:30:00 -
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Love is in teh air !
Btw dude ... just let it go ... not a single player has said that 100mil isk is enough ... so if ur serious ... then why not raise the stakes ... we need more people to kill anyways  
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Beastoria
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Posted - 2006.04.15 05:31:00 -
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Bah ... I hate it when I forget to change the char name on teh forums ... anyways ... the above post is by me  --------------------------------------------------
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 05:55:00 -
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Originally by: Beastor Love is in teh air !
Btw dude ... just let it go ... not a single player has said that 100mil isk is enough ... so if ur serious ... then why not raise the stakes ... we need more people to kill anyways  
I am beginning to realize I would have to pay the alts of the offenders just to get this done. So what's the point of any of this anyway ?
I guess I'll just have to silently suck-up my own losses and keep my money anyway.
Afterall, I lost nothing. I already had a 2nd BS sitting in my hangar. I have 10 mil isk after paying my ship insurance on my Dom. No harm, no foul.
BS BPC's are pathetically cheap. Ship insurance pays for the expensive minerals. Alts supply the rest. Before you can say, "pod me", I got back into another BS.
Thanks for the lesson in futility.
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felnick
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Posted - 2006.04.15 07:30:00 -
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what Planetr are you living on man. First thing the point you have to realize when you offer a contract is what are the xpected losses the corp who take will incur. If you sponsor a war against s******dly realisticly you would be looking at 1 billion isk upfront just for initial assets needed to be used in the contrac. The next thing you would more than likely need to do is cover the cost of ship losses and outfiting you have to realize these people who take contracts are not just going to do it out of the kindness of their heart and loose billions in isk from ship losses and modules just because you want 2 peoples corpses. So do us a favor and think before you make such blattantly ignorant assumptions.
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Megec
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Posted - 2006.04.15 07:33:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Spyres I'll do it. Just need to go through some calculations. 100m won't buy a HAC I can fly.
Hmmm. Could get a BS I suppose - have to be tier 1 though. Let's say a Domi. They're about 60 right? Let's go with insurance aswell, be a shame to waste all the money. That leaves me about 20 to fit it and buy drones and whatnot. Better stick with cheapish NOS, and regulation tanking gear, can't afford much else. Tech 1 drones aswell.
Ok, I'm ready.

And did you employer in real life have to buy you a car you could drive to work each day or were you expected to cover the cost of your own transportation to get to and from work each day ?
Personally, I have never been in an employment situation in real life where an employer could be coerced into buying me a car just in case I happened to wreck my car on my way to or from work each day.
Nobody pays people based on their expectations of loss. People are paid based on the work to be done.
100 mil isk in EVE should be more than enough to cover the AMMO a medium sized corporation might expend during a single battle. Unless those of you who have the manpower are so afraid of loss than you cannot take on this task unless you are assured of not losing your nice shiney ships in the process. Heck ship insurance pays for the replacement of your ship. I lost my Scorp and hopped right into my Dom then paid my ship insurance and had 10 mil isk left over. So I had 2 BS's - doesn't everyone ? I would have to be podded about 8 times before I'd have to stop to rebuild a new BS. Had I managed to lose 8 BS's I would be assured of having at least one new BS for FREE as long as I remembered to pay for the insurance before hopping into my next BS. Ships in EVE are virtually FREE and still peeps are crying about losing ships ?!? Can we get a grip here folks ?
3 peeps attacked me - it took that many to do the job.
100 mil isk pays premium BS insurance for something like 4 BS's. 100 mil isk also pays for 2 BS's insurance along with 2-3 T2 friggies and 2-3 Battlecruisers all with premium ship insurance. Once the job is done even if everyone loses their ships there would still be ample isk left over to help ease the loss and everyone gets a new ship virtually for FREE just because that's the way EVE is for all us players who pay to play. Heck, if I had a small corporation of 8 players suitably equip'd I would have no problem collecting this 100 mil isk. Of course I would use 2-3 Stealth Friggies to help nail down the targets before bringing the rest of the fleet to attack. Send in Stealth Friggies nice and cloaked. Scope out the battle and get warp-in points. Warp in the T2 attack friggies to begin the battle. Warp in the BattleCruisers to block and lock-down the targets. Warp in the BS's to blast from afar. Before you know it the targets are dead and no friendly ships lost.
Anyone care to tell me how wrong I am about all this ? Because I would be using the exact tactics that were used on me in reverse so I know these tactics work.
There aint' furious pirates jumping on the city streets usually. 
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Ignasi
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Posted - 2006.04.15 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ignasi on 15/04/2006 08:25:29
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Spyres I'll do it. Just need to go through some calculations. 100m won't buy a HAC I can fly.
Hmmm. Could get a BS I suppose - have to be tier 1 though. Let's say a Domi. They're about 60 right? Let's go with insurance aswell, be a shame to waste all the money. That leaves me about 20 to fit it and buy drones and whatnot. Better stick with cheapish NOS, and regulation tanking gear, can't afford much else. Tech 1 drones aswell.
Ok, I'm ready.

<yadda yadda> Anyone care to tell me how wrong I am about all this ? Because I would be using the exact tactics that were used on me in reverse so I know these tactics work.
Your logic is completely skewed. You're paying the mercenaries for risking their ships and pods in order to kill people they would otherwise have no beef with. To equate hiring mercenaries to hiring employees in RL is downright ridiculous. Employees in a regular corporation are not usually risking their lives and what you call their "transportation" in order to fulfill their positions in the company they are employed at. In the odd instances where this may be true, the cost of any losses incurred while on the job as well as hazard pay for risking their lives would be payed to them. Here you claim to be doing nothing more than, "paying for their ammo."
As to your lengthy argument about the wonders of insurance: When you lose a ship you lose not only the cost of insurance but the modules fitted, nevermind the time investment required to purchase and locate new modules ship replacing the recently exploded one. That point is essentially moot and can be disregarded.
You then argue that a well setup fleet should not lose any ships. While a well equipped and large enough fleet may very well not lose any ships, the number of highly skilled pilots required for such a fleet would obviously also be large. In exchange for all these player's time and ships, they would expect a reward that is directly proportional to their skill level and the amount of time required. Even a gang of 10 ships, assuming perhaps 3 tacklers, 7 BSes, would make no more than 10mil isk a pilot for completing the task you are asking of them. 10mil isk can be made far easier in half an hour of 0.0 ratting, with the added benefit of a much lesser chance of being blown up and subsequently podded.
If you wish to be taken seriously by anyone, I would recommend you multiply the amount of ISK you wish to spend by perhaps a factor of at least 20. At that point it becomes feasible for a mercenary corporation to head in, pop a few ships and pods and perhaps even lose a few themselves while still making some decent coin. ------------------------------------------------ I buy/sell any and all faction ships. Drop me a line in game if interested in doing business! |

Kelron Queldine
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Posted - 2006.04.15 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
I am beginning to realize I would have to pay the alts of the offenders just to get this done. So what's the point of any of this anyway ?
I guess I'll just have to silently suck-up my own losses and keep my money anyway.
Afterall, I lost nothing. I already had a 2nd BS sitting in my hangar. I have 10 mil isk after paying my ship insurance on my Dom. No harm, no foul.
BS BPC's are pathetically cheap. Ship insurance pays for the expensive minerals. Alts supply the rest. Before you can say, "pod me", I got back into another BS.
Thanks for the lesson in futility.
You see, I think you're getting the idea now. If you're willing to pay the kind of money that nearly every single person in the thread has said you need to, then there's plenty of merc corps out there. But if you don't want to, it's far cheaper just for you to carry on, and take the chance for revenge if you get it.
And you laughed too much on the first page.
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wierchas noobhunter
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Posted - 2006.04.15 09:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow I will finance a War against SNIGG (S******dly Corp).
100 million isk will be paid to finance this war.
I want no fewer than 20 frozen corpses from SNIGG members however 5 of each MUST come from Tomar Lyonsbane and Amos Sommers each.
Those of you who have the means and wish to take this contract can eve-mail me in-game to make arrangements for the pay-off upon receipt of the aforementioned frozen corpses.
Look at this as an excuse to attack SNIGG as often as possible in order to collect the required number of frozen corpses.
This offer expires within 30 days.
      add 00 to end and will fight
wierchas 4tw |

KamikazeHamster
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Posted - 2006.04.15 09:28:00 -
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Declaring war on a corp of -10s is pointless. It just means they can shoot back
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Pride NL
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Posted - 2006.04.15 10:24:00 -
[45]
S******dly has declared war on Atomic Battle Penguins
We are on it m8  
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Rikkard Strofeldt
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Posted - 2006.04.15 11:04:00 -
[46]
I think Manco Devils can take this, with the following conditions:
- 1 billion up front. - 100 million a week. - 50 million per corpse.
I may negotiate, but don't bet on it.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.15 11:38:00 -
[47]
Originally by: KamikazeHamster Declaring war on a corp of -10s is pointless. It just means they can shoot back
No, its worse than pointless.
It means they can shoot FIRST without sentries getting involved..
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Zell
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Posted - 2006.04.15 12:51:00 -
[48]
No one remebers this guy??
Hes the one that used to put about 100mil 's in his posts, talked smack, and logged off the moment you entered local..
7660 corp or some such thing. I guess hes got a few sps now so hes back...
joy.. 
(glad to hear snigg gave him some due...)
"Ginger Magician is just a nublet. I've met more people ingame that have laughed about him, than anyone else in Eve."
"A coward dies a thousand times, the brave die just once.." |

Verone
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Posted - 2006.04.15 14:46:00 -
[49]

VETO MEMBER MOVIES
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.15 14:52:00 -
[50]
i fully endorse this product and/or service.
As part of the HippoKingÖ stupidity outreach service, the I-WIN corporation would like to add 5mil to the final bounty in the hope that the OP realises what a stupid request he is making, and how pathetically he is underpaying
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin Who pwned who? ~kieron |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 15:01:00 -
[51]
Tell you what folks, let's fire all the police and give the criminals the really bad parts of town and then let's setup up gun turrets to keep them out of the nice parts of town and as a society we will save billions of $$ per year.
Law Enforcement is highly overrated, according to what most people have posted in this thread.
"Declaring war on -10 corps is pointless, because they can shoot back..."
It seems to me -10 players have declared war on the rest of us without so much as having to pay the war fees. By compensation, EVE as a game should allow war to be declared on -10 corps without the -10 corps players being able to take advantage of the fact that a war even exists - meaning criminal corps should not be able to attack in high sec space (0.5 >) once a declared war has commenced. This would even out the fact that the lawless are in-fact lawless. |

HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.15 15:05:00 -
[52]
they are minus ten ffs. what can you do with a war that you can't do without?
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin Who pwned who? ~kieron |

Rasitiln
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Posted - 2006.04.15 15:24:00 -
[53]
dont I get a mention I was there in my shuttle ramming you should you could not warp off. I was hopeing that on the kill mail it would say ship: gallente shuttle weapon: ramming speed
but sadly ccp doesnt put ramming shuttles on killmails 
That 1% was enough - Wrangler |

Vladic Ka
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Posted - 2006.04.15 16:07:00 -
[54]
Meh! I didnt get a mention either. Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur. |

Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 16:38:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Rasitiln dont I get a mention I was there in my shuttle ramming you should you could not warp off. I was hopeing that on the kill mail it would say ship: gallente shuttle weapon: ramming speed
but sadly ccp doesnt put ramming shuttles on killmails 
Then you found a way to exploit game mechanics and you should be banned for cheating ! IMHO |

Rasitiln
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Posted - 2006.04.15 16:57:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Rasitiln dont I get a mention I was there in my shuttle ramming you should you could not warp off. I was hopeing that on the kill mail it would say ship: gallente shuttle weapon: ramming speed
but sadly ccp doesnt put ramming shuttles on killmails 
Then you found a way to exploit game mechanics and you should be banned for cheating ! IMHO
ya thats all snigg is hardcore sploiters. Thats why our claws lightly hit ships for 3000 damage 
That 1% was enough - Wrangler |

Amos Sommers
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Posted - 2006.04.15 17:04:00 -
[57]
Hmm Id like to describe situation in which we found Mr. Sparrow in his safespot. We didnt have a coverts ops with us so we decided for our Tempest pilot to refit. Because of Mr. Sparrow's relativley good safe spot it tooks us well over 10 minutes to setup scan points then another 5 to complete the scan. After warping to him we found to be over 220km away.
Our Battleship pilot decided to warp off and warp back closer to Mr. Sparrow's Scoprion while the tackler closed range on MWD. I proceeded to do the same (tanked, mwd Brutix). At 66km away, Mr. Sparrow opened fire on me, so I turned off my MWD and got some tranversal velocity. Why? Mr. Sparrow was using Railguns on his Scoprion in addition to Missiles.
I tanked his fire for about 30 seconds before our battelship got back. At this point I leave, but Mr. Sparrow switched his drones onto our tackler which had to run aswell - we didnt want any losses. With no Scrambling, Mr. Sparrow decided to run aswell with bearly any Armor left.
We saw him warp in direction of Planet X, so we followed but he wasnt there. At this point Rasitlin in his shuttle (he lost his ship earlier) warped to Mr. Sparrows safe spot to find to his amazment that Mr. Sparrow here has returned indeed to guard his 1bil isk worth of morphite in half burning Scoprion.
We imidietly warped back which ended with Mr. Sparrow's quick loss of ship and pod.
I must question Mr. Sparrow's judgment of comming back as secure cans cannot be opened unless someone has enough luck to guess the password ... LOL U IS PWNED |

Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.15 17:57:00 -
[58]
Maybe 100mil per encounter with SNIGG forces...
Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |

Tityana
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Posted - 2006.04.15 18:16:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Deja Thoris Edited by: Deja Thoris on 15/04/2006 02:22:59 Shamis admitted to me in private convo hes scared and thinking about leaving.
Deja Thoris> You know some random dude is offering 100mill for a war against your corp? Shamis> Holy ****! I'm screwed. I may have to hide in a noob corp till this blows over
He's since left to join Snigwaffe. This is undeniable evidence of his cowardice. I suggest you submit an exploit petition using the convo snippet as evidence.
Good luck!
Hey? who? where? what? omg? wft?
WHY DID NOONE TELL ME THESE THINGS? Thats it, no shamis = Sniggbear corp
    
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Blubeanz
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Posted - 2006.04.15 18:49:00 -
[60]
lol, i lost 100mill this morning and am up 300 mill this afternoon.. Surely he meant 100 Bill?
ROFL what a joke...
-Blu
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K'reemy G'udness
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Posted - 2006.04.15 20:06:00 -
[61]
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow I will finance a War against SNIGG (S******dly Corp).
100 million isk will be paid to finance this war.
BWAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH! 
Jacque, you bastard! I just sprayed my compy with milk, snot and viscous spit!
Anyway, good job Snigg. This guy clearly needs a reality check or 10.

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Jessica Lorelei
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Posted - 2006.04.15 20:17:00 -
[62]
100m!!! are you feather plucking insane?
I get more than 100m killing an npc rat in my rifter, go away you annoying little boy.
'death is only an upgrade' |

vile56
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Posted - 2006.04.15 20:35:00 -
[63]
if only i could rename corpses
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.04.15 21:25:00 -
[64]
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Declaring war only makes our job easier 
Also, based on Tomar's history, I think it'll take about 3 more years to get 5 of his corpses 
Good luck with the revenge business.
Shamis
Nice corp.. gonna recruit 600 noobs and conquer the world?  --------------------------------------
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.15 21:56:00 -
[65]
Originally by: Masta Killa
Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Declaring war only makes our job easier 
Also, based on Tomar's history, I think it'll take about 3 more years to get 5 of his corpses 
Good luck with the revenge business.
Shamis
Nice corp.. gonna recruit 600 noobs and conquer the world? 
Pirates in EVE ar just too cowardly to PvP one on one ! This is a fact ! |

Kelron Queldine
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Posted - 2006.04.15 22:39:00 -
[66]
As is everything else shouted by naive people who don't want to admit they're wrong.
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Signatures are for the weak. |

Mr Floppyknickers
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Posted - 2006.04.15 22:44:00 -
[67]
This has to be the worst case of a bruised ego I've ever witnessed. You were caught napping, knuckle up man, and fight back or pay a decent sum. If you honestly believe that you're gonna issue some call to arms for the greater good, you're only fooling yourself, especially when you come across as a nutter on the forums.
So pay more or rub some ice on your bruise and let it go.
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.04.16 00:49:00 -
[68]
What was that saying?
"Better to look stupid, and stay quiet, then to open your mounth and remove all doubt"
Good advice for the OP I think
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.04.16 01:35:00 -
[69]
Originally by: Lorth What was that saying?
"Better to look stupid, and stay quiet, then to open your mounth and remove all doubt"
Good advice for the OP I think
"It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt."
Abraham Lincoln...
Good advice in this case 
VETO MEMBER MOVIES
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Nato Xemus
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Posted - 2006.04.16 02:07:00 -
[70]
since your saying its so easy with 8 pilots why dont you ask some friends, or create a corp speficly for this purpose. come on you said it was easy, oh and bout having convert ops to check them out for the tacklers and stuff you seen the price of covert ops cloaks lately? you offer would barely pay for 2 covert ops pilots ships let alone any implants they might have if the get found and swiftly dealt with
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Phelan Boots
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Posted - 2006.04.16 03:15:00 -
[71]
Edited by: Phelan Boots on 16/04/2006 03:16:24
Originally by: Amos Sommers *Battle AAR*
Damn, there goes my conspiracy theory of Sparrow = Snigg Alt. 
Much love to Snigg, I hear you guys do your job quite well.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.16 03:28:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Rasitiln dont I get a mention I was there in my shuttle ramming you should you could not warp off. I was hopeing that on the kill mail it would say ship: gallente shuttle weapon: ramming speed
but sadly ccp doesnt put ramming shuttles on killmails 
Then you found a way to exploit game mechanics and you should be banned for cheating ! IMHO

Ramming ftw
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Jacque Sparrow
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Posted - 2006.04.16 03:48:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Mr Floppyknickers This has to be the worst case of a bruised ego I've ever witnessed. You were caught napping, knuckle up man, and fight back or pay a decent sum. If you honestly believe that you're gonna issue some call to arms for the greater good, you're only fooling yourself, especially when you come across as a nutter on the forums.
So pay more or rub some ice on your bruise and let it go.
Stick and stones... but you have neither to fight with - only photons and bits and little of anything else. - LOL
For being such a "nutter", as you say, I have captivated some small interest and no few posts for this thread. Who is nuttier ? The nutter who acts as a nutter of the fools who listen to him ?
I lost my Scorp to SNIGG because I chose to. SNIGG failed to gank me when they cam upon me napping and they allowed me to warp away undamaged. I chose to warp back and thus lost my ship. I call that entertainment - not nearly as entertaining as this forum thread however. - LOL |

Calisto Cody
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Posted - 2006.04.16 05:51:00 -
[74]
....ok...
The Black Swan Society
Berneh is not appropriate for the forums - |

Kage Getsu
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Posted - 2006.04.16 07:44:00 -
[75]
I'll do it if you pay the money in advance. _________________________________________________________
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ScoRpS
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Posted - 2006.04.16 08:54:00 -
[76]
You should have perhaps contacted some of the many merc corps listed in a sticky in this very part of the forums for your convenience to get a better scope of what you are asking for in terms of isk before making a post about your intentions and available finances. (this is not what the judge meant by a long sentance)
It's probably not too late tho and many merc corps would probably look forward to going up against sn.iggerdly as they have a rather cool pvp reputation.
Good Luck and all that.
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moemoemoe
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Posted - 2006.04.16 14:31:00 -
[77]
Quote: So far I am NOT at all impressed with the responses I have read. Everyone is giving excuses or reasons why taking action would be expensive. Everyone is too afraid of suffering a loss and this is why the folks at SNIGG are simply laughing their arses off over this one to be sure.
Maybe that's because your bounty is, well, ridiculously low. A single lost HAC or BS with T2 fittings on the merc's part would eat up all of that money (and then some). People have tried to explain this to you for three pages now, but... oh well.
Sidenote: I love how the middle part of SNIGG is edited out by the forum software because it thinks that someone is using "a derogatory term for black people".
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Verone's Alt
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Posted - 2006.04.16 15:10:00 -
[78]
Hello, first off, I have posted with an alt to protect my identity.
I believe I will be able to fulfill your request for the meager sum of 100 million isk.
I can, in 24 hours bring you the fluffy pink panties of Snigg founder Shamis Orzoz.
Please contact me in game to set up a contract.
Yours Sincerely,
Verone's Alt.
Oh... wait a minute... 
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kessah
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Posted - 2006.04.16 15:13:00 -
[79]
Edited by: kessah on 16/04/2006 15:13:09 i mean yeah we can take the contract.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.16 15:29:00 -
[80]
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Rasitiln dont I get a mention I was there in my shuttle ramming you should you could not warp off. I was hopeing that on the kill mail it would say ship: gallente shuttle weapon: ramming speed
but sadly ccp doesnt put ramming shuttles on killmails 
Then you found a way to exploit game mechanics and you should be banned for cheating ! IMHO
unfortunatley, that is part of the game, and fortunately, your humble opinion don't mean **** \ /
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin Who pwned who? ~kieron RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |

HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.16 15:31:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow I lost my Scorp to SNIGG because I chose to. SNIGG failed to gank me when they cam upon me napping and they allowed me to warp away undamaged. I chose to warp back and thus lost my ship.
i wish i had cunning plans like you 
Win a Cerberus!!
sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:|. - Teblin Who pwned who? ~kieron RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |

Calisto Cody
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Posted - 2006.04.16 16:28:00 -
[82]
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow I lost my Scorp to SNIGG because I chose to. SNIGG failed to gank me when they cam upon me napping and they allowed me to warp away undamaged. I chose to warp back and thus lost my ship.
i wish i had cunning plans like you 
   
The Black Swan Society
Berneh is not appropriate for the forums - |

Kilo Paskaa
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Posted - 2006.04.16 19:39:00 -
[83]
Dont hate snigg because they¦re good m¦kay . Btw, what did you do to make em so angry this time? Freighter full of t2 goodies ? --------
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Mandrift
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Posted - 2006.04.16 19:45:00 -
[84]
Yeah they aren't all bad, they helped me free myself from a thorax and expensive implants. Now i'm free FREEE! ===============================================
Its not hard to fail..... Its not easy to win.... |

Siren Shiva
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Posted - 2006.04.16 21:46:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Pirates in EVE ar just too cowardly to PvP one on one ! This is a fact !
I believe most Veto members would agree to a real and honored 1v1, it is however a fact that many wannabe antipirates are too cowardly to stick to the rules and call their friends for help. Or whine in local about how the pirate only won because they cheated. After all, it is SO horrible and shameful to lose a 1v1 against an outlaw. 
Lyticus > I freaking hate you! Siren Shiva > I love you too <3 Trey > Siren sounds like she could kick my ass on Vent
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vile56
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Posted - 2006.04.16 21:55:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Mr Floppyknickers This has to be the worst case of a bruised ego I've ever witnessed. You were caught napping, knuckle up man, and fight back or pay a decent sum. If you honestly believe that you're gonna issue some call to arms for the greater good, you're only fooling yourself, especially when you come across as a nutter on the forums.
So pay more or rub some ice on your bruise and let it go.
Stick and stones... but you have neither to fight with - only photons and bits and little of anything else. - LOL
For being such a "nutter", as you say, I have captivated some small interest and no few posts for this thread. Who is nuttier ? The nutter who acts as a nutter of the fools who listen to him ?
I lost my Scorp to SNIGG because I chose to. SNIGG failed to gank me when they cam upon me napping and they allowed me to warp away undamaged. I chose to warp back and thus lost my ship. I call that entertainment - not nearly as entertaining as this forum thread however. - LOL
aka i use stabs and auto pilot
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Mangold
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Posted - 2006.04.17 06:07:00 -
[87]
Funny thread.
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2006.04.17 06:26:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Bentguru on 17/04/2006 06:27:34
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Stick and stones... but you have neither to fight with - only photons and bits and little of anything else. - LOL
For being such a "nutter", as you say, I have captivated some small interest and no few posts for this thread. Who is nuttier ? The nutter who acts as a nutter of the fools who listen to him ?
I lost my Scorp to SNIGG because I chose to. SNIGG failed to gank me when they cam upon me napping and they allowed me to warp away undamaged. I chose to warp back and thus lost my ship. I call that entertainment - not nearly as entertaining as this forum thread however. - LOL
Point #1: The "small intrest" you speak of is akin to a bunch of people watching somebody try to ride a bike with only one wheel and who is also unable to figure out why it doesn't work. (AKA; we're laughing at you..)
Point #2: If your version of being entertained is getting blown to peices, please god convo me in game and i'll entertain you for free 
Seriously, You choosing to die just makes you a moron...
I don't have a sig :( but i do have a video Welcome Home |

Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.17 11:17:00 -
[89]
Edited by: Guth on 17/04/2006 11:18:27
Originally by: Uggster Clueless

Replies like this ****es me off.
Granted, the OP is being a bit "rough around the edges" with some replies, specifically the one to Sni g g erdly about making an alt and stealing, but the guy is trying something, and asking for reasons behind the rejections. He has even gone as far as post a detail combat tactic setup, and finishes it with asking if anyone can tell if something is wrong with this setup.
And all you answer is this..
Didnt your mom ever teach you that "if you dont have anything positive to say, then dont say anything" ?
Or in this case: try to give some REASONS as to why he is clueless, and your post has value. Write what you did, and youre basically trolling without profanity.
Factoid: Something fictitious that is presented as fact, devised especially to gain publicity and accepted because of constant repetition |

Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.17 11:23:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Siren Shiva
Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Pirates in EVE ar just too cowardly to PvP one on one ! This is a fact !
I believe most Veto members would agree to a real and honored 1v1, it is however a fact that many wannabe antipirates are too cowardly to stick to the rules and call their friends for help. Or whine in local about how the pirate only won because they cheated. After all, it is SO horrible and shameful to lose a 1v1 against an outlaw. 
I agree. Standard reply from antipirates after they warp in their mates to a 1vs1 : "pirates have no honour, so it doesnt matter if we cheat".. 
Pirates arent bad, people are bad. no matter what they play.
Factoid: Something fictitious that is presented as fact, devised especially to gain publicity and accepted because of constant repetition |

Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.17 11:41:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Gericault m0id
Quote: Look at this as an excuse to attack SNIGG as often as possible in order to collect the required number of frozen corpses.
We don't need an excuse 
Well then why not take it? 
ONe thing i dont understand by all you negative repliers:
Snigg are -5 sec status or more mostly yes? meaning you can attack them anyway. And many probably have bounties as well. So if you are in the same area as snigg, and a pvper, whats not to like about maybe getting 100 mil extra if you manage to bring them down and get the corpses. Worst case scenario is that you lose, which is much the same as what would happen if snigg came upon you anywyas, as they are pirates.. 
Factoid: Something fictitious that is presented as fact, devised especially to gain publicity and accepted because of constant repetition |

Gericault m0id
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Posted - 2006.04.17 12:04:00 -
[92]
Originally by: Guth
Originally by: Gericault m0id
Quote: Look at this as an excuse to attack SNIGG as often as possible in order to collect the required number of frozen corpses.
We don't need an excuse 
Well then why not take it? 
ONe thing i dont understand by all you negative repliers:
Snigg are -5 sec status or more mostly yes? meaning you can attack them anyway. And many probably have bounties as well. So if you are in the same area as snigg, and a pvper, whats not to like about maybe getting 100 mil extra if you manage to bring them down and get the corpses. Worst case scenario is that you lose, which is much the same as what would happen if snigg came upon you anywyas, as they are pirates.. 
My reply wasn't meant to sound negative. I hoped it'd lift the spirits of OP. There are actually 'carebears' that fight back against SNIGGs, Dr. Evils Assassins and any other pirate corps that happen to be in Placid and we happen to be around.
As for a contract, we're not a mercenary corporation (despite CONIN propaganda ) and we're not interested in end-less camping in Alperoute. Regardless, an organized SNIGG (which would probably be the case if there was a full-out war) kind of scares me 
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.04.17 12:10:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Guth
Originally by: Gericault m0id
Quote: Look at this as an excuse to attack SNIGG as often as possible in order to collect the required number of frozen corpses.
We don't need an excuse 
Well then why not take it? 
ONe thing i dont understand by all you negative repliers:
Snigg are -5 sec status or more mostly yes? meaning you can attack them anyway. And many probably have bounties as well. So if you are in the same area as snigg, and a pvper, whats not to like about maybe getting 100 mil extra if you manage to bring them down and get the corpses. Worst case scenario is that you lose, which is much the same as what would happen if snigg came upon you anywyas, as they are pirates.. 
For one it will take you months if not years to collect those corpses, and two those months spent trying to get our corpses will result in many many of your deaths would still be worthless even with our bounties.
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.17 13:34:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
For one it will take you months if not years to collect those corpses, and two those months spent trying to get our corpses will result in many many of your deaths would still be worthless even with our bounties.
Ok if you say so. I have no interest in it, but i just wondered at the obvious reluctance in taking money for fighting someone that you have to /want to fight anyways..
Factoid: Something fictitious that is presented as fact, devised especially to gain publicity and accepted because of constant repetition |

K'reemy G'udness
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Posted - 2006.04.17 14:08:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Guth
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
For one it will take you months if not years to collect those corpses, and two those months spent trying to get our corpses will result in many many of your deaths would still be worthless even with our bounties.
Ok if you say so. I have no interest in it, but i just wondered at the obvious reluctance in taking money for fighting someone that you have to /want to fight anyways..
Look man, this guy had 1 bil in mins, yes? To offer such a low amount on the C&P forums for 20 CORPSES of such a well known and brutal pirate corp is asking for a smack. Maybe the OP should have asked what's appropriate first. Or done better math. 5 Mil per snigg erdly member corpse is just ridiculous, and this guy should know that.
And what is he, your alt? Why are you being such a caring sensitive guy for a sore loser? 
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Rikkard Strofeldt
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Posted - 2006.04.18 08:41:00 -
[96]
Originally by: K'reemy G'udness Look man, this guy had 1 bil in mins, yes? To offer such a low amount on the C&P forums for 20 CORPSES of such a well known and brutal pirate corp is asking for a smack. Maybe the OP should have asked what's appropriate first. Or done better math. 5 Mil per snigg erdly member corpse is just ridiculous, and this guy should know that.
And what is he, your alt? Why are you being such a caring sensitive guy for a sore loser? 
I have to agree here. If you lose 1bil in minerals, and do so by choice , then you can pony up some real ISKies so people might actually go out of their way to fight SNIGG. As it is you only fight SNIGG if they happen to start shooting at you and you can't runaway.
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John MacCoy
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Posted - 2006.04.18 11:32:00 -
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I find all this really funny. Jacque, you wanna get someone to got to war with one of the oldest PvP corps in the game because they blew up your scorpion, for just 100Mil. Good luck.
However, I might have some of those corpses you want.
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Kaito Akimoto
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Posted - 2006.04.18 17:17:00 -
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Jacque, if you are truely serious my advice would be to get a pool going with other players so you can get that fee up to a reasonable amount of ISK. Nobody is going to go up against Snigg otherwise. ---- Kaito Akimoto Director of Executive Services NiTen Securities Ltd. Proudly Minmatar owned and Minmatar run |

Beringe
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Posted - 2006.04.18 17:45:00 -
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I'm being dead serious when I say this:
Take your loss in stride and move on. Don't post threads like these before doing a little forum reading/research, to find out what the general level of acceptance is and what a real mercenary corporation takes for a job like this.
If you had done this, you would have found the list of mercenaries, contacted one of these fine corps in-game, and found out that 100 mill is not nearly enough to wage war on a corp of Snig garldy's size and skill level. Assassination jobs go for less, but not 20 of them.
In stead, you thought you could scare them by doing this in public. You were wrong, and ridiculed for your lack of knowledge in this matter. You'd have been better off gloating *after* getting some corpses, which you have already been told will cost you more than 100 mill (which is less than most veterans can make in a single day).
Finally, you didn't manage to pick up either mercenary employee etiquette (and there is such a thing...basically, don't secure the contract on the forum) nor the fact that you should have backed off after page 2 of this thread. Indeed, you kept coming back for more abuse.
If you keep posting in this thread, you'll definitely deserve it. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.19 18:42:00 -
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Originally by: K'reemy G'udness
Originally by: Guth
Originally by: Superbus Maximus
For one it will take you months if not years to collect those corpses, and two those months spent trying to get our corpses will result in many many of your deaths would still be worthless even with our bounties.
Ok if you say so. I have no interest in it, but i just wondered at the obvious reluctance in taking money for fighting someone that you have to /want to fight anyways..
Look man, this guy had 1 bil in mins, yes? To offer such a low amount on the C&P forums for 20 CORPSES of such a well known and brutal pirate corp is asking for a smack. Maybe the OP should have asked what's appropriate first. Or done better math. 5 Mil per snigg erdly member corpse is just ridiculous, and this guy should know that.
And what is he, your alt? Why are you being such a caring sensitive guy for a sore loser? 
Since i dont smack him i have to be his alt right? 
This forum is becoming more like other "lesser" MMO forums each day... 
I'm not his alt, I'm actually a CEO of a small corp myself. But then again it wont matter what i say i reckon, as you got no way to prove or disprove it, so people think what they want to think 
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Guth
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Posted - 2006.04.19 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: Kaito Akimoto Jacque, if you are truely serious my advice would be to get a pool going with other players so you can get that fee up to a reasonable amount of ISK. Nobody is going to go up against Snigg otherwise.
very good idea actually. If youre serious, pool up with other angry victims of snigg that cant let things go, and maybe you can afford a big merc corp. KIA is the only one that comes to mind. Or perhaps if you are more of the "revenge is a dish best served cold" type, you might want to try and hire The Guiding Hand Social Club..
Now SNIGG, dont go after me for giving him some general ideas, im a nice guy, i really am!

Factoid: Something fictitious that is presented as fact, devised especially to gain publicity and accepted because of constant repetition |

Oro Masut
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Posted - 2006.04.24 08:49:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Originally by: Beastor Love is in teh air !
Btw dude ... just let it go ... not a single player has said that 100mil isk is enough ... so if ur serious ... then why not raise the stakes ... we need more people to kill anyways  
I am beginning to realize I would have to pay the alts of the offenders just to get this done. So what's the point of any of this anyway ?
I guess I'll just have to silently suck-up my own losses and keep my money anyway.
Afterall, I lost nothing. I already had a 2nd BS sitting in my hangar. I have 10 mil isk after paying my ship insurance on my Dom. No harm, no foul.
BS BPC's are pathetically cheap. Ship insurance pays for the expensive minerals. Alts supply the rest. Before you can say, "pod me", I got back into another BS.
Thanks for the lesson in futility.
This ridiculous thread proves four things :
1) You have no clue how much isk a small-time war cost, at least not with fittings that will put you on the winning side.
2) You neither have the balls nor the patience to setup, plan and execute the revenge yourself
3) According to your quoted text, your math skills sucks
4) You do not remotely deserve to wear the name you are currently abusing
So, do us all a favor and start a new char, with a new name.
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Usul Faust
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Posted - 2006.04.24 11:34:00 -
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This ridiculous post proves one thing
1) you care too much.
no skills, just luck.
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Horatio Nately
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Posted - 2006.04.25 01:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow
Pirates in EVE ar just too cowardly to PvP one on one ! This is a fact !
Um...Pirate?
Why should pirates have to fight fair? Dosen't that kind of defeat the idea of piracy?
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Tityana
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Posted - 2006.04.26 11:30:00 -
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Edited by: Tityana on 26/04/2006 11:30:43
Originally by: Verone's Alt
Hello, first off, I have posted with an alt to protect my identity.
I believe I will be able to fulfill your request for the meager sum of 100 million isk.
I can, in 24 hours bring you the fluffy pink panties of Snigg founder Shamis Orzoz.
Please contact me in game to set up a contract.
Yours Sincerely,
Verone's Alt.
Oh... wait a minute... 
LMAO Verone... funny haha, which ones? with the polkadots? mwah
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MegabitOne
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Posted - 2006.04.27 10:58:00 -
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Originally by: Jacque Sparrow 100 mil isk in EVE should be more than enough to cover the AMMO a medium sized corporation might expend during a single battle. Unless those of you who have the manpower are so afraid of loss than you cannot take on this task unless you are assured of not losing your nice shiney ships in the process. Heck ship insurance pays for the replacement of your ship. I lost my Scorp and hopped right into my Dom then paid my ship insurance and had 10 mil isk left over. So I had 2 BS's - doesn't everyone ? I would have to be podded about 8 times before I'd have to stop to rebuild a new BS. Had I managed to lose 8 BS's I would be assured of having at least one new BS for FREE as long as I remembered to pay for the insurance before hopping into my next BS. Ships in EVE are virtually FREE and still peeps are crying about losing ships ?!? Can we get a grip here folks ?
Anyone care to tell me how wrong I am about all this ? Because I would be using the exact tactics that were used on me in reverse so I know these tactics work.
Quick math: 1) battleship = 60m return when boom w/o insurance = 20m total loss: - 60 (buy) + 20 (insurance) = -40m
2) battleship = 60m insurance = 20m return when boom with full insurance = 60m total loss: -60 (buy) - 20 (insurance) + 60 (payout) = -20m
3) battleship bpo/bpc = ??? but say you got if for free = 0 battleship = 50m (cost of mins to make it, regardless if you spend hours mining yourself or buy them off the market, mins market price of course includes the effort needed to mine it and since you're putting the mins in the ship you can't sell them anymore) insurance = 20m return when boom with full insurance = 60m total loss: -50 (make) - 20 (insurance) + 60 (payout) = -10m
So, you're looking at atleast 10 to 40mln loss every time you loose a ship. And that's for the ship alone. I didn't even count mods, ammo, drones and cargo... The more expensive the mods/ammo/drones/cargo, the more of it destroyed when the ship blows.
That's why I think ships in Eve are anything but virtually free! --- I'm not as bad-ass as some of my corp mates, but I'll pwn you anyway!
-= In God we trust, all the others pay cash =- |

Commander Nikolas
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Posted - 2006.04.27 12:17:00 -
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Edited by: Commander Nikolas on 27/04/2006 12:19:47 Mercs charge alot more then 100mil isk for a contract. Snigg has become a joke of a PvP corp. If you do find someone willing to accept the contract (at that price) we can provide them with alot of config information and Snigg tactics.
In general all their ships have at least 2x WCS regardless of ship type or purpose. We even pulled numerous WCS off their interceptors when we defeated them.
A note about snigg tactics. They seem to log on during peek west coast times (a bit late for most of us) and are very reliant on gate sniping. They are very afraid too lose ships and fight so all their sniper set-ups have the lows full of WCS (which makes using coverts to warp in on top of them very hard. You get on top of them, scram them... then zoom they all warp away).
Just ignore them when they are trying to be leet PvPing uber haxors (stabbed out gate snipers, not nearly as cool as Farjung). Then kill them when they move through stargates, very few of them seem to have any real PvP experience. If it shoots back or dosen't die in the first volley they panic, safespot, and log off.
Good luck in your quest mate. We threw them out of the Amod area with little or no problem and ABP threw them out of their home system. It shouldn't be hard to find a good merc corp to finish them off.
If you decide you are willing to pay more then 100mil per week please contact me in game. We have a full schedule for the next few weeks but it would be easy to work in a contract against Snigg within the month.
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John MacCoy
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Posted - 2006.04.27 12:47:00 -
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And I thought this thread was dead. Looks like its about it kick off now.
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Shamis Orzoz
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Posted - 2006.04.27 13:01:00 -
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Edited by: Shamis Orzoz on 27/04/2006 13:01:52
Originally by: Commander Nikolas Edited by: Commander Nikolas on 27/04/2006 12:19:47 Mercs charge alot more then 100mil isk for a contract. Snigg has become a joke of a PvP corp. If you do find someone willing to accept the contract (at that price) we can provide them with alot of config information and Snigg tactics.
In general all their ships have at least 2x WCS regardless of ship type or purpose. We even pulled numerous WCS off their interceptors when we defeated them.
A note about snigg tactics. They seem to log on during peek west coast times (a bit late for most of us) and are very reliant on gate sniping. They are very afraid too lose ships and fight so all their sniper set-ups have the lows full of WCS (which makes using coverts to warp in on top of them very hard. You get on top of them, scram them... then zoom they all warp away).
Just ignore them when they are trying to be leet PvPing uber haxors (stabbed out gate snipers, not nearly as cool as Farjung). Then kill them when they move through stargates, very few of them seem to have any real PvP experience. If it shoots back or dosen't die in the first volley they panic, safespot, and log off.
Good luck in your quest mate. We threw them out of the Amod area with little or no problem and ABP threw them out of their home system. It shouldn't be hard to find a good merc corp to finish them off.
If you decide you are willing to pay more then 100mil per week please contact me in game. We have a full schedule for the next few weeks but it would be easy to work in a contract against Snigg within the month.
                                 
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Black 1
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Posted - 2006.04.27 13:14:00 -
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Originally by: Commander Nikolas Edited by: Commander Nikolas on 27/04/2006 12:19:47 Mercs charge alot more then 100mil isk for a contract. Snigg has become a joke of a PvP corp. If you do find someone willing to accept the contract (at that price) we can provide them with alot of config information and Snigg tactics.
In general all their ships have at least 2x WCS regardless of ship type or purpose. We even pulled numerous WCS off their interceptors when we defeated them.
A note about snigg tactics. They seem to log on during peek west coast times (a bit late for most of us) and are very reliant on gate sniping. They are very afraid too lose ships and fight so all their sniper set-ups have the lows full of WCS (which makes using coverts to warp in on top of them very hard. You get on top of them, scram them... then zoom they all warp away).
Just ignore them when they are trying to be leet PvPing uber haxors (stabbed out gate snipers, not nearly as cool as Farjung). Then kill them when they move through stargates, very few of them seem to have any real PvP experience. If it shoots back or dosen't die in the first volley they panic, safespot, and log off.
Good luck in your quest mate. We threw them out of the Amod area with little or no problem and ABP threw them out of their home system. It shouldn't be hard to find a good merc corp to finish them off.
If you decide you are willing to pay more then 100mil per week please contact me in game. We have a full schedule for the next few weeks but it would be easy to work in a contract against Snigg within the month.
This is pure crap. If anyone in Snigg were to fit a stab on an inty they would be laughed out of the corp. Second you didn't throw anyone out of Amod, our war with you is just something to do while we're not taking down pos's. Thirdly I think even ABP will admit they have done no such thing. The 250mil a week or whatever it was you have payed them is not money well spent considdering our engagement with their freighter escort fleet and a proper fleet later that same evening. In no way am I pounding my chest about ABP. I'm just stating facts which you seem to like to dance around. To anyone reading this guy's rubbish please note this is coming from a guy who had 2 to 1 odds camped into a station for an entire evening. The couple ships who popped their head out for a second too long got insta popped. You are a pure smacktalker Nikolas and you know it. It steams me to see you writing crap like this, but I guess if I sucked in pvp I'ld have to smack it up too. 
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Johnny Malloy
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Posted - 2006.04.27 13:17:00 -
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Well, can't say i agree with Commander Nikolas and his view of S******dly, i've fought them a couple of times and lost.i thought they were very good PvPers myself and had a good attitude, and at the end of the day,so what? its a game ffs.get over it.
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John MacCoy
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Posted - 2006.04.27 13:48:00 -
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Black 1, I know you are loyal to Snigg and all that but get a grip. Me and nik undocked many times and took scans off all your ships. You all had BSs fitted with large T2 weapons, range and damage mods and at least 2 WCS and were aligned to a safe spot at any give time. The second we fired on a ship and its shields go down to 75% it warped away. Keep in mind that all your ships were at least 120km from the station. How the hell were we supposed to fight you. The one time we did manage to catch one of your sniper ships it took 3 ships just to get enough scrams on it so it didnt warp away. That I found that sickening to say the least. So lets get this one thing straight: take the stabs off and you might be respected; dont and you will continue to be ridiculed. Simple as that.
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Black 1
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Posted - 2006.04.27 13:55:00 -
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Edited by: Black 1 on 27/04/2006 13:56:35
Originally by: John MacCoy Black 1, I know you are loyal to Snigg and all that but get a grip. Me and nik undocked many times and took scans off all your ships. You all had BSs fitted with large T2 weapons, range and damage mods and at least 2 WCS and were aligned to a safe spot at any give time. The second we fired on a ship and its shields go down to 75% it warped away. Keep in mind that all your ships were at least 120km from the station. How the hell were we supposed to fight you. The one time we did manage to catch one of your sniper ships it took 3 ships just to get enough scrams on it so it didnt warp away. That I found that sickening to say the least. So lets get this one thing straight: take the stabs off and you might be respected; dont and you will continue to be ridiculed. Simple as that.
I cannot quote to you who had what fitting but I do know this....it takes undocking and firing to take shields off....since you have done very little firing and much gate/station hugging then I think its only fair to reply that you are talking out of your arse.
how about a screenshot?
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Seth Rock
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Posted - 2006.04.27 15:06:00 -
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Edited by: Seth Rock on 27/04/2006 15:09:33
Originally by: Commander Nikolas Edited by: Commander Nikolas on 27/04/2006 12:19:47 Mercs charge alot more then 100mil isk for a contract. Snigg has become a joke of a PvP corp. If you do find someone willing to accept the contract (at that price) we can provide them with alot of config information and Snigg tactics.
In general all their ships have at least 2x WCS regardless of ship type or purpose. We even pulled numerous WCS off their interceptors when we defeated them.
A note about snigg tactics. They seem to log on during peek west coast times (a bit late for most of us) and are very reliant on gate sniping. They are very afraid too lose ships and fight so all their sniper set-ups have the lows full of WCS (which makes using coverts to warp in on top of them very hard. You get on top of them, scram them... then zoom they all warp away).
Just ignore them when they are trying to be leet PvPing uber haxors (stabbed out gate snipers, not nearly as cool as Farjung). Then kill them when they move through stargates, very few of them seem to have any real PvP experience. If it shoots back or dosen't die in the first volley they panic, safespot, and log off.
Good luck in your quest mate. We threw them out of the Amod area with little or no problem and ABP threw them out of their home system. It shouldn't be hard to find a good merc corp to finish them off.
If you decide you are willing to pay more then 100mil per week please contact me in game. We have a full schedule for the next few weeks but it would be easy to work in a contract against Snigg within the month.
   This coming from someone that sits in station and smacks when we bring a fight to their doorstep we left because you sat in station and talked smack of how your winning the fight docked. Oh and we've only had two engagements with ABP, why don't you come and see if we still are in our home system.
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Seth Rock
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Posted - 2006.04.27 15:07:00 -
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Originally by: John MacCoy Black 1, I know you are loyal to Snigg and all that but get a grip. Me and nik undocked many times and took scans off all your ships. You all had BSs fitted with large T2 weapons, range and damage mods and at least 2 WCS and were aligned to a safe spot at any give time. The second we fired on a ship and its shields go down to 75% it warped away. Keep in mind that all your ships were at least 120km from the station. How the hell were we supposed to fight you. The one time we did manage to catch one of your sniper ships it took 3 ships just to get enough scrams on it so it didnt warp away. That I found that sickening to say the least. So lets get this one thing straight: take the stabs off and you might be respected; dont and you will continue to be ridiculed. Simple as that.
5 of our battleships were right at the undock point. Oh yeah and from when i looked on your forum on the scans you had on us there was not one ship that had a stab on.
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Seth Rock
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Posted - 2006.04.27 15:10:00 -
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Edited by: Seth Rock on 27/04/2006 15:10:52 retracted
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John MacCoy
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Posted - 2006.04.27 15:32:00 -
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Originally by: Seth Rock 5 of our battleships were right at the undock point. Oh yeah and from when i looked on your forum on the scans you had on us there was not one ship that had a stab on.
Originally by: Seth Rock Edited by: Seth Rock on 27/04/2006 15:10:52 retracted
Ah ha...
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Imaran

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Posted - 2006.04.27 15:37:00 -
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Locked for Flaming, Trolling, Personal Attacks and just about everything else on the list of bad things .
Please review your attitudes before posting again.
Thanks.
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