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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.15 01:01:00 -
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Edited by: Two step on 15/04/2006 01:05:58
Hello everyone.
I'd like to announce the beta release of my skill management utility, Two Step Skills. It is very similar to ECM, but has a few different features and it is more reliable (at least for me) It works with both you entering your account information and if you manually download your XML file. If you do choose to enter your account information, your username/password is stored encrypted on disk. Since it is a .NET application, anyone is welcome to go download Reflector and look at the source to verify that it isn't doing anything bad with your account information. The only connection it makes to the outside world is to the EVE servers to download your skill information.
It has a skill queue very similar to ECM, except that it allows you to queue ships and it will add the required skills to fly the ship to your skill queue. It accounts for implants and learning skills in training times. To add skills/ships to the queue, double click the skills or drag and drop them into the queue.
Also, TSS supports pretty complicated custom export templates. I need to write up some documentation, but you should be able to get started with the examples I included.
The link to download TSS is http://www.eve-files.com/media/corp/Twostep/TwoStepSkills.zip
The members of my last corp (IRLE ftw!) have tested it, and it seemed to work for them.
Known issues:
1) Updating after you have finished training sometimes ends up queueing up the next level of that skill.
2) Dragging and dropping ships to reorder them in the queue sometimes removes other skills from the queue
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Contralto
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Posted - 2006.04.15 04:31:00 -
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Nice clean interface, I will use this utility, Not sure if it updated my skill from the server tho. didnt see any change from the 12 hour old XML I imported from ECM.will check in a few hours. Still be using ECM as well tho, has more options. Nice work, appreciated, Isk in transit as soon as I log on :-)
Contra'
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Lillis85
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Posted - 2006.04.15 08:26:00 -
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Really nice utility! With this it's really easy to see exactly what date and time my skills are done. Thanks :)
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.15 12:21:00 -
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 Originally by: Contralto
Nice clean interface, I will use this utility, Not sure if it updated my skill from the server tho. didnt see any change from the 12 hour old XML I imported from ECM.will check in a few hours. Still be using ECM as well tho, has more options. Nice work, appreciated, Isk in transit as soon as I log on :-)
Contra'
You have to click the Update button in the top left to update, it doesn't update automatically. It should show you in the log at the bottom when it last updated, as well as in the information panel in the top left.
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2006.04.15 18:13:00 -
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Once again there is another product that has plagiarised FutureFalcon's work. The least you could do is have some acknowledgment of someone else's work, I spent a lot of time making sure that information is correct and I don't appreciate FutureFalcon not being recognised for this work. It doesn't have to be much, just a small acknowledgment is sufficient.
Also, the ECM's download capabilities have been "fixed" by using the Eve Management Suite (EMS). Visit our website for more details.
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Webmaster of FutureFalcon EVE Tools, Home of the ECM and new EVE Management Suite (EMS).
http://www.eve-ffet.com/
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.15 18:35:00 -
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Originally by: Yeggstry
Once again there is another product that has plagiarised FutureFalcon's work. The least you could do is have some acknowledgment of someone else's work, I spent a lot of time making sure that information is correct and I don't appreciate FutureFalcon not being recognised for this work. It doesn't have to be much, just a small acknowledgment is sufficient.
Also, the ECM's download capabilities have been "fixed" by using the Eve Management Suite (EMS). Visit our website for more details.
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It is very similar to ECM
There is no plagarism in software. You don't have some sort of patent on skill utilities. I use some of your icons, which will change as soon as I can get someone to draw me some new ones.
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AceOfSpace
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Posted - 2006.04.15 18:51:00 -
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Hey Two Step, nice to see you're still around  Good work with the prog, I'll give it a try sometime soon.
Take care old chum.
Ace ;*
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2006.04.15 19:35:00 -
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Edited by: Yeggstry on 15/04/2006 19:39:45
Edited by: Yeggstry on 15/04/2006 19:37:18
Originally by: Two step
Originally by: Yeggstry
Once again there is another product that has plagiarised FutureFalcon's work. The least you could do is have some acknowledgment of someone else's work, I spent a lot of time making sure that information is correct and I don't appreciate FutureFalcon not being recognised for this work. It doesn't have to be much, just a small acknowledgment is sufficient.
Also, the ECM's download capabilities have been "fixed" by using the Eve Management Suite (EMS). Visit our website for more details.
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It is very similar to ECM
There is no plagarism in software. You don't have some sort of patent on skill utilities. I use some of your icons, which will change as soon as I can get someone to draw me some new ones.
I apologise, I should have mentioned the extent of the plagiarism in my first post.
You use the skills.xml file as part of your program, that is a direct copy from the FutureFalcon website. It even has the comments that I made at the top of the file commenting what I have done. That is what I am talking about when I mean by plagiarism.
I have no problem with other people creating their own skill utilities. In fact it means that I get to kick the FutureFalcon guys up the arse so we can get a better product that we have atm :) I have no problem with the friendly competition, I do have a problem when the competition use our files without reference to us, as do the other FFET admins.
We've not really got a problem with anyone using the icons, since a lot of them can be freely got from searching google anyway.
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Webmaster of FutureFalcon EVE Tools, Home of the ECM and new EVE Management Suite (EMS).
http://www.eve-ffet.com/
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.16 01:17:00 -
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Edited by: Two step on 16/04/2006 01:17:18
Originally by: Yeggstry
I apologise, I should have mentioned the extent of the plagiarism in my first post.
You use the skills.xml file as part of your program, that is a direct copy from the FutureFalcon website. It even has the comments that I made at the top of the file commenting what I have done. That is what I am talking about when I mean by plagiarism.
I have no problem with other people creating their own skill utilities. In fact it means that I get to kick the FutureFalcon guys up the arse so we can get a better product that we have atm :) I have no problem with the friendly competition, I do have a problem when the competition use our files without reference to us, as do the other FFET admins.
We've not really got a problem with anyone using the icons, since a lot of them can be freely got from searching google anyway.
I will change to my own source for the skills file ASAP. I'm sorry I didn't give you guys credit, I know it was a pain to compile the skill list.
I will produce a skills file from T20's data export and will offer the file free of any sort of obligations for anyone that wants to use it.
BTW, hey Ace, good to see you too...
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.16 02:44:00 -
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OK, I have uploaded a new version that uses my own skill file. It has the same XML structure as your file, but is generated from T20's data dump. I hope this will resolve your issues with my program.
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SonOTassadar
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Posted - 2006.04.16 07:57:00 -
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Question: Currently I am training Spatial Awareness to 5. I have Clarity waiting when it completes tomorrow. Will this utility search for said skill and then proceed to use it?
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Yeggstry
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Posted - 2006.04.16 08:47:00 -
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Originally by: Two step
OK, I have uploaded a new version that uses my own skill file. It has the same XML structure as your file, but is generated from T20's data dump. I hope this will resolve your issues with my program.
Yes that's fine. Thank you.
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Webmaster of FutureFalcon EVE Tools, Home of the ECM and new EVE Management Suite (EMS).
http://www.eve-ffet.com/
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.16 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: SonOTassadar
Question: Currently I am training Spatial Awareness to 5. I have Clarity waiting when it completes tomorrow. Will this utility search for said skill and then proceed to use it?
No, this doesn't actually log in and change your skills, CCP will not allow that. This just lets you plan out your skill training schedule.
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.18 03:56:00 -
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Any feedback from people using the utility? Likes, dislikes? Bugs?
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scabbsssjr
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Posted - 2006.04.18 04:41:00 -
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When I try to launch the program I get this message "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135)."
I downloaded the program two times.
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.19 02:22:00 -
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Originally by: scabbsssjr
When I try to launch the program I get this message "The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135)."
I downloaded the program two times.
Do you have the .NET framework 1.1 installed? If not, it is available in windows update.
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Sean Pierre
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Posted - 2006.04.19 03:46:00 -
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Originally by: Yeggstry
You use the skills.xml file as part of your program, that is a direct copy from the FutureFalcon website.
Isn't that what the XML is for anyway, how is that a direct copy from FutureFalcon if that's the only real way of getting an accurate status update from the EVE website? I really don't understand how that's plagiarism, I mean, did he use the SAME EXACT code from the ECM program? Or is the code widely available on some site?
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Valarkin
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Posted - 2006.04.19 05:49:00 -
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Click Update: hangs at Starting Update...
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Pascale Guyon
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Posted - 2006.04.20 12:31:00 -
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Little bug.
When I downlodaded my character data first time I got following exception. Now whenever I run program I get same exception. Probably something with different date formats.
************** Exception Text **************
System.FormatException: String was not recognized as a valid DateTime.
at System.DateTimeParse.ParseFormatError(Boolean isThrowException, String resourceID)
at System.DateTimeParse.ParseByFormat(__DTString str, __DTString format, ParsingInfo parseInfo, DateTimeFormatInfo dtfi, Boolean isThrowExp, DateTimeResult result)
at System.DateTimeParse.DoStrictParse(String s, String formatParam, DateTimeStyles styles, DateTimeFormatInfo dtfi, Boolean isThrowExp, DateTime& returnValue)
at System.DateTimeParse.ParseExact(String s, String format, DateTimeFormatInfo dtfi, DateTimeStyles style)
at System.DateTime.ParseExact(String s, String format, IFormatProvider provider)
at TwoStepSkills.SkillTraining.get_TrainingEndTime()
at TwoStepSkills.CharacterData.GetTimeToSkillDone()
at TwoStepSkills.CharacterData.get_IsStillTraining()
at TwoStepSkills.MainForm.timer1_Tick(Object sender, EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.OnTick(EventArgs e)
at System.Windows.Forms.Timer.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr idEvent, IntPtr dwTime)
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.20 13:03:00 -
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Originally by: Sean Pierre
Originally by: Yeggstry
You use the skills.xml file as part of your program, that is a direct copy from the FutureFalcon website.
Isn't that what the XML is for anyway, how is that a direct copy from FutureFalcon if that's the only real way of getting an accurate status update from the EVE website? I really don't understand how that's plagiarism, I mean, did he use the SAME EXACT code from the ECM program? Or is the code widely available on some site?
It was a file created by the ECM team. I am no longer using it, so it shouldn't be an issue.
Originally by: Valarkin
Click Update: hangs at Starting Update...
Hmm, I haven't seen that happen before. What happens if you click update again?
Originally by: Pascale Guyon
Little bug.
When I downlodaded my character data first time I got following exception. Now whenever I run program I get same exception. Probably something with different date formats.
Yeah, that does sound like a date format issue. What date/time format does your computer use? If you are using XP, check the regional options control panel and let me know which format you are using. I will switch my machine over and try to reproduce the problem.
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skothk
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Posted - 2006.04.20 13:35:00 -
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Great tool, although SMTP notification isn't working for me.
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Donna Darko
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Posted - 2006.04.20 13:54:00 -
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The option to send e-mail when skill is complete is pretty useless to me - a more useful function would be a pop-up + sound or an icon in the systray presenting a tooltip or something.
The ability to split long skills would be great, i.e. queue Advanced Weapon Upgrades level 5, takes a few days but it ends at 2:30 AM. If the program reminds me to change to some other skill for a few hours or days and then change back to AWU 5, it would be great.
Originally by: Yeggstry
Once again there is another product that has plagiarised FutureFalcon's work.
...ECM is not the "be all you can be" software, so don't imagine it's more important then it really is (I have used it, and I also gave up using it because most of the time I still calculate the skill end time properly and arrange myself to have my skills not end at night). I'm getting really tired of reading your rants. Why don't you start encrypting your damn XML file, renaming it into .BLURP, hide it into a .DLL and start charging a license fee for using ECM?
Oh, and what I like about this application is that you don't need two pieces of software to make it work, you just unpack it and start using it. I don't need to **** around and fiddle until it works properly, like I had to do with the 1 time I tried to use ECM and EMS.
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.20 15:59:00 -
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Originally by: skothk
Great tool, although SMTP notification isn't working for me.
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Yeah, I forgot to disable that. It isn't working yet. Sorry.
Splitting skills is on my to-do list, as I often want to do it in my own training. How would you want it to work? Do you want to tell it a time to train to? Specify times when it shouldn't have skills end?
Thanks for the feedback everyone.
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Pascale Guyon
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Posted - 2006.04.20 16:00:00 -
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Edited by: Pascale Guyon on 20/04/2006 16:01:50
Originally by: Two step
Yeah, that does sound like a date format issue. What date/time format does your computer use? If you are using XP, check the regional options control panel and let me know which format you are using. I will switch my machine over and try to reproduce the problem.
Short date format for today in this part of Earth is like that: 20.04.2006
in control panel (d.MM.yyyy)
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.20 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: Pascale Guyon
Little bug.
When I downlodaded my character data first time I got following exception. Now whenever I run program I get same exception. Probably something with different date formats.
OK, I just uploaded a new version that should (I think) fix your issue. Can you give it a shot?
Thanks,
Two step
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Pascale Guyon
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Posted - 2006.04.20 16:11:00 -
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Originally by: Two step
OK, I just uploaded a new version that should (I think) fix your issue. Can you give it a shot?
Thanks,
Two step
Yes, problem solved.
Thank You
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Pascale Guyon
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Posted - 2006.04.20 16:20:00 -
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One more minor issue I noticed.
Under ships->freghter->gallente->Fenrir
Seems You mixed gallente/minmatar freighters.
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Jimmyz
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Posted - 2006.04.20 17:32:00 -
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TwoSteps - When I click on the 'Update' button all it says is 'Starting Update' but it never seems to get the information. Am I missing something? (I've entered the char. information, yet the same thing)
When I minimize the program it vanishes. It's not in the systray nor on the taskbar. If I look in the processes tab it's running.
Donna (SOOO DAMN TRUE) - Nice to know someone else feels the same way. I've tryed again to see if I could get it working and still have yet to get it 100%.
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.20 18:38:00 -
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Edited by: Two step on 20/04/2006 18:42:04
Edited by: Two step on 20/04/2006 18:41:39
Originally by: Pascale Guyon
One more minor issue I noticed.
Under ships->freghter->gallente->Fenrir
Seems You mixed gallente/minmatar freighters.
Someone in my corp complained about this too. My data comes straight from t20's data dumps. I don't think I have the very newest version from him though, I will try to update it.
I'm glad the fix worked for you.
Originally by: Jimmyz
TwoSteps - When I click on the 'Update' button all it says is 'Starting Update' but it never seems to get the information. Am I missing something? (I've entered the char. information, yet the same thing)
When I minimize the program it vanishes. It's not in the systray nor on the taskbar. If I look in the processes tab it's running.
I just uploaded a new version that should spit out more useful information when it his an error during update. Can you try it?
Originally by: Jimmyz
Donna (SOOO DAMN TRUE) - Nice to know someone else feels the same way. I've tryed again to see if I could get it working and still have yet to get it 100%.
I don't want to put down the ECM team, I used ECM for months. I will say that the reason I wrote TSS was because they didn't manage to get everything just working.
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Two step
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Posted - 2006.04.20 18:43:00 -
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Edited by: Two step on 20/04/2006 18:43:25
OK, new version up with more logging information if it hits an error while updating. Jimmyz, can you try it and let me know what it says?
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