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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:32:00 -
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I'm getting pissed of it. EVERY TIME you press warp&jump to gates you NEED to check if system still remembers about "jump" part of an order. Because in like 80% of time ship won't do anything after finishing warp. It looks than no dev or QA really looked at it since implementing.
So CCP: do you need help of my 8 year old daughter to actually test it?
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
355
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:36:00 -
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Works perfectly fine for me.
Since the warp speed changes, sometimes I stop a little away from 0 and my ship slowboats a bit before jumping, but the warp-jump still works everytime.
Are you sure you aren't just seeing the same thing and assuming the jump part has been missed?
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1229
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:48:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Are you sure you aren't just seeing the same thing and assuming the jump part has been missed?
yes, i DO sure.
Usually it looks like this:
- ships leaves warp
- speed gets to 0
- you wait, nothing happens
- you wait, nothing happens
- you wait, nothing happens
- then you press 'jump' and you get 'session is already changing' like this function is already active
it mostly happens when you use d-scan while warping. But not only in this case.
It looks like when you pressed 'warp&XXX' you should not touch Eve client at all 
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19558
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:54:00 -
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HuhGǪ never had that happen to me. vOv
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy
The ROC
2633
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Posted - 2014.02.22 21:59:00 -
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I've played this game for a long, long time, and I have no idea what this is about.
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MatrixSkye Mk2
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
747
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Posted - 2014.02.22 22:26:00 -
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It has always worked fine for me :\.
Both warp buttons are next to each other so it is possible you may be pressing the wrong one. |
TheMercenaryKing
StarFleet Enterprises
Almost Awesome.
137
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Posted - 2014.02.22 22:28:00 -
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sounds like your misclicking, fraps it and watch what you did wrong. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1229
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Posted - 2014.02.22 22:45:00 -
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usually i select gates and then press button 'D' which is shortcutted to 'dock/jump/activate gate' function.
Will check it for sure. Would be very embarassing for me if this is my fail .....
The Mittani: "the inappropriate drunked joke"
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Eran Mintor
Esoteric Philosophy
454
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Posted - 2014.02.22 23:03:00 -
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Ive had this issue often but I dont consider it that annoying considering this is a newer function and I'm used to having to click jump after warping anyways. It should be fixed but yea...nothing to rage over.
I think it is a clientside issue as I have lots of weird problems on my ****** laptop, such as dropdown menus not offering the warp function, and instead suggest I approach things that are AU's away. Once everything is loaded after the session change, it updates. Perhaps this is similar. If you have short warps and jump straight away it, the client may have not finished loading.
Just speculation from experience. |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1229
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Posted - 2014.02.22 23:28:00 -
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Eran Mintor wrote:Ive had this issue often but I dont consider it that annoying considering this is a newer function and I'm used to having to click jump after warping anyways. It should be fixed but yea...nothing to rage over.
back in 2012 i lose Daredevil because of this. Pressed 'warp&dock' and left to bed. Returned to find myself in cloning facility: ship didn't dock and occasional roamer found it. Yes, this was my mistake to not check....
Just recently pressed 'warp&jump' without any flags and timers. Was needed to go afk for like 30-40 seconds. Returned just in time to safe my ship from faction NPC which already started to eat it. Again: ship warped and didn't jump.
It's OK when you sit there and control your ship every moment. Just annoying but nothing to rage about. The problem is when you NEED to go afk for a moment and you simply cannot trust this simple function "warp, approach if needed, jump".
Eran Mintor wrote:
I think it is a clientside issue as I have lots of weird problems on my ****** laptop, such as dropdown menus not offering the warp function, and instead suggest I approach things that are AU's away. Once everything is loaded after the session change, it updates. Perhaps this is similar. If you have short warps and jump straight away it, the client may have not finished loading.
Just speculation from experience.
i have laggy internet lately. Maybe this is a reason. But noone can help: nor CCP or my internet-provider.
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Jill Chastot
Oath of the Forsaken
Sanguis Ignis Prosperitum
236
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Posted - 2014.02.22 23:37:00 -
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I promise this man in no way represents the FDU and he will be stripped of rank and pay accordingly
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SpoonRECKLESS
LOGI R Us
170
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Posted - 2014.02.23 00:20:00 -
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I had this happen alot too when I was able to log in. But I thought it was just part of the game.
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Em arr Roids
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.02.23 02:27:00 -
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Tippia wrote:HuhGǪ never had that happen to me. vOv
little miss perfect. Never seems to have any of the issues that have been filling these forums for years but still feels the need to make a pointless post in every damn thread just to "be seen" and "heard".
Tippia is a dev / ccp alt for sure and eve is so wonderfully perfect without any flaws what so ever. |
Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
58
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Posted - 2014.02.23 02:36:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:usually i select gates and then press button 'D' which is shortcutted to 'dock/jump/activate gate' function.
Will check it for sure. Would be very embarassing for me if this is my fail .....
Grabs popcorn....
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Ralen Zateki
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
58
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Posted - 2014.02.23 02:38:00 -
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Em arr Roids wrote:Tippia wrote:HuhGǪ never had that happen to me. vOv little miss perfect. Never seems to have any of the issues that have been filling these forums for years but still feels the need to make a pointless post in every damn thread just to "be seen" and "heard". Tippia is a dev / ccp alt for sure and eve is so wonderfully perfect without any flaws what so ever.
Nice wife beater... very... ummm... appropriate.... |
Cecil Montague
PCG Enterprises
30
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Posted - 2014.02.23 09:02:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:
- then you press 'jump' and you get 'session is already changing' like this function is already active
If you are getting that message then it sounds like your client has logged the fact that you requested a jump but for whatever reason it hasn't been transmitted to the server.
I've noticed that my connection can drop as the music stream I listen to cuts out (plugging Eve Radio here) but the game client carries on happily until I ask it to do something that requires a server side check like open cargo. After a period of time the client gets wise and drops you out but if the connection to the net comes back fast enough you stay in as if nothing had happened but some commands get lost.
Could be this is what is happening to you.
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Aria Jimbojohnson
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
7
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Posted - 2014.02.23 09:17:00 -
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Em arr Roids wrote:Tippia wrote:HuhGǪ never had that happen to me. vOv little miss perfect. Never seems to have any of the issues that have been filling these forums for years but still feels the need to make a pointless post in every damn thread just to "be seen" and "heard". Tippia is a dev / ccp alt for sure and eve is so wonderfully perfect without any flaws what so ever.
Do you expect any different from someone who is on the forums 24/7 pretending to know everything? It's not like she has time to actually play the game. |
Eternus8lux8lucis
Journies End
218
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Posted - 2014.02.23 09:44:00 -
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Ive had this happen to me quite a bit on a lot of different clients and across 4 computers. Its annoying but I think its a feature tbh.
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1210
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Posted - 2014.02.23 09:48:00 -
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Why all the hate for Tippia? He is very informed and shares with the community. Just because you disagree with his opinion does not change any facts or data he supplies. All he stated was that he isn't having the issue described in the OP so it can't really be a CCP issue. If nothing else, that helps to narrow down the fail point does it not?
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Praetor Meles
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
169
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Posted - 2014.02.23 09:50:00 -
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Em arr Roids wrote:Tippia wrote:HuhGǪ never had that happen to me. vOv little miss perfect. Never seems to have any of the issues that have been filling these forums for years but still feels the need to make a pointless post in every damn thread just to "be seen" and "heard". Tippia is a dev / ccp alt for sure and eve is so wonderfully perfect without any flaws what so ever.
I liked your post, just so that I could unlike it.
Also, to OP - this sounds like a "transmission" problem at your end (you're clicking the correct button, but for some reason the second bit isn't being sent to the server when you get there?). I've had this occassionally too, but it's been when my internet connection has been...uncooperative.
Edit: Also, could you just confirm for my curiosity that this isn't regularly happening when you're trying to jump into Jita, hmmm?
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TheGuessWho
TheDarkLegion Inc
0
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Posted - 2014.02.23 09:51:00 -
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for me its this. If you press several times dock/jump button, it will only warp to desired object, wont dock or jump. Single click on jump/dock works always. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
19563
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Posted - 2014.02.23 10:21:00 -
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Em arr Roids wrote:little miss perfect. Yes, I am pretty much perfect. Thank you for noticing.
Not that it really has any bearing on how the game responds to my input. As it is, I haven't had a single failed dock/jump since they implemented the one-tick pause after landing, which happened, whatGǪ one point release after the dock/jump command itself was implemented?
Quote:Never seems to have any of the issues that have been filling these forums for years but still feels the need to make a pointless post in every damn thread No, I feel the need to point out that it's not a systematic problem because then it would be more wide-spread. You'll notice that the first response (and third and fourth and fifth) said the same thing.
Quote:Tippia is a dev / ccp alt for sure and eve is so wonderfully perfect without any flaws what so ever. You've read very little of my posting, I see.
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Oblivion King
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.02.23 10:51:00 -
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Happens to me every single time
happens more if you're alt tabbed as well |
Em arr Roids
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.02.23 10:52:00 -
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Praetor Meles wrote:Em arr Roids wrote:Tippia wrote:HuhGǪ never had that happen to me. vOv little miss perfect. Never seems to have any of the issues that have been filling these forums for years but still feels the need to make a pointless post in every damn thread just to "be seen" and "heard". Tippia is a dev / ccp alt for sure and eve is so wonderfully perfect without any flaws what so ever. I liked your post, just so that I could unlike it. Also, to OP - this sounds like a "transmission" problem at your end (you're clicking the correct button, but for some reason the second bit isn't being sent to the server when you get there?). I've had this occassionally too, but it's been when my internet connection has been...uncooperative. Edit: Also, could you just confirm for my curiosity that this isn't regularly happening when you're trying to jump into Jita, hmmm?
Well thank you but no thanks!
I'm having this issue to be honest. Yeah its probably a feature but an annoying one. I mean you used to jump pretty much as soon as you get into 2500m but now you cruise to 0 before jumping (every time and every gate). Sometimes it doesn't jump at all.
This also happens when docking too. Obvious action delay is obvious (probably trying to slow down client commands to the server). |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1231
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Posted - 2014.02.23 11:06:00 -
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Praetor Meles wrote:
Edit: Also, could you just confirm for my curiosity that this isn't regularly happening when you're trying to jump into Jita, hmmm?
I do Jita other way: i kill wartargets on entrances.
And nope: most of the times it happens when i use d-scan while warping. Maybe this makes some interference in command queues... Not sure. It looks like when you don't touch client at all it does its job well.
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Kimmi Chan
Tastes Like Purple
1212
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Posted - 2014.02.23 11:11:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:Praetor Meles wrote:
Edit: Also, could you just confirm for my curiosity that this isn't regularly happening when you're trying to jump into Jita, hmmm?
I do Jita other way: i kill wartargets on entrances. And nope: most of the times it happens when i use d-scan while warping. Maybe this makes some interference in command queues... Not sure. It looks like when you don't touch client at all it does its job well.
Hahahahaha!!!
So the problem is you pressing buttons?
Stop pressing all the buttons!
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Qweasdy
Federal Defense Union
Gallente Federation
73
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Posted - 2014.02.23 13:33:00 -
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TheGuessWho wrote:for me its this. If you press several times dock/jump button, it will only warp to desired object, wont dock or jump. Single click on jump/dock works always.
I've had very similar issues to this with acceleration gates:
Assuming I'm manually aligned down the accel gate and ready to use it (incursions) if I single click activate I will take the gate instantly, however if I double click my ship will suddenly stop as it does before warping but then will proceed to align down the gate from 0m/s before finally taking the gate.
Also worth noting that I have the same problem as OP as well and that my internet is rather unreliable. So I think that pretty much narrows down this issue and other similar issues to be a network issue.
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Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
639
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Posted - 2014.02.23 14:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Quote:Never seems to have any of the issues that have been filling these forums for years but still feels the need to make a pointless post in every damn thread No, I feel the need to point out that it's not a systematic problem because then it would be more wide-spread. You'll notice that the first response (and third and fourth and fifth) said the same thing.
Well, further down the thread it looks like more people are affected.
I have this issue too. Occasionally. So it's not that bad for me.
What really sucks of late is, that I have to wait for 2-4 seconds at almost every gate, before a jump is initiated. Even if I'm sitting on the gate at 0 and no matter how busy the systems are.
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March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1231
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Posted - 2014.02.23 22:22:00 -
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Mara Pahrdi wrote:
What really sucks of late is, that I have to wait for 2-4 seconds at almost every gate, before a jump is initiated. Even if I'm sitting on the gate at 0 and no matter how busy the systems are.
the same is here
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MonkeyMagic Thiesant
Shockwave Innovations
Surely You're Joking
49
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Posted - 2014.02.23 22:48:00 -
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Never had this problem, possibly because I'm in the UK so packet loss to eve's servers in London is rare.
If that's the reason, it really shouldn't be the case - the eve client should transmit the jump and warp commands at the same time. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
911
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Posted - 2014.02.23 23:13:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay.
Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules:
4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
26. Off-topic posting is prohibited.
Off-topic posting is permitted within reason, as sometimes a single comment may color or lighten the tone of discussion. However, excessive posting of off-topic remarks in an attempt to derail a thread may result in the thread being locked, or a forum warning being issued.
That said, if you are experiencing any problems with the game (in this case game-commands given through the UI not being followed up), please file a bug report. The more information from different players on game bugs/glitches reach CCP, the better and easier they can act upon it!
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Commander
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Ai Shun
1066
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Posted - 2014.02.23 23:23:00 -
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March rabbit wrote:And nope: most of the times it happens when i use d-scan while warping. Maybe this makes some interference in command queues... Not sure. It looks like when you don't touch client at all it does its job well.
Try and replicate it a few times doing that. If you get a reasonable success rate, submit a bug report to CCP with details of how you reproduce it (And when, so they can check the logs that show nothing  ) |
Yarda Black
Epidemic.
Psychosomatic.
51
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Posted - 2014.02.23 23:41:00 -
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I'm not sure this is related, but the "cruise to zero" thing rang a bell:
I warp to a gate, land within 2500m, hit jump (I dont use the warp&jump button), then my ship approaches the gate. Then after some random delay I jump.
Every time.
I dont really remember when that started. Jumping gates used to be a pretty straightforward affair.
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
467
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Posted - 2014.02.24 11:29:00 -
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Yarda Black wrote:I'm not sure this is related, but the "cruise to zero" thing rang a bell:
I warp to a gate, land within 2500m, hit jump (I dont use the warp&jump button), then my ship approaches the gate. Then after some random delay I jump.
Every time.
I dont really remember when that started. Jumping gates used to be a pretty straightforward affair.
started with odyssey, random dely for jumping, occasionnaly stuck in tunnel for longer than expected, and the fun, is that sometimes, you are in the jump animation BUT you ship will stay on the gate from all other players POV.
if you happen to be killed (you are still targetable), you will see the dest system then be rolled back instantly in your pod.
tldr; they broke the thing, it's bug reported since odyssey day one regarding the delay (100% of time), the "in jump but not really" (pretty rare) yet no changes so far..... :CCP:  |
March rabbit
Federal Defense Union
1233
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Posted - 2014.02.24 12:18:00 -
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Ai Shun wrote:March rabbit wrote:And nope: most of the times it happens when i use d-scan while warping. Maybe this makes some interference in command queues... Not sure. It looks like when you don't touch client at all it does its job well. Try and replicate it a few times doing that. If you get a reasonable success rate, submit a bug report to CCP with details of how you reproduce it (And when, so they can check the logs that show nothing )
it sounds reasonable but i have posted lots of bug reports in my past. and almost nothing was fixed.
My last bug-report is unanswered for like 1 month already. And this is bug where you only need to look at killmail and you see what's wrong. Bugs like this in my software usually take about few minutes to investigate and 1-2 hours to fix. But it looks like here we have very big amount of bug reports....
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ViolentDesire
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.02.24 16:24:00 -
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I get this all the time. Has been going on for at least a few years. |
Vyl Vit
Cambio Enterprises
595
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Posted - 2014.02.24 18:56:00 -
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Interesting. I've spent roughly four hours today doing "chores" involving a bunch of 7 to 16-jump journeys. (Pick-ups and drop-offs.) Using "set destination", I've been listening to Bjork and clicking the "jump" command (which is mapped to D by default) from Selected item, with no trouble whatever. No unbearable, nerve wracking delays. No failures to jump.
On occassion, the next jump won't appear in Selected item. (It pays to pay attention.) I highlight it from the Overview and it continues without fail. (This I've seen happen seemingly when jumping from a region into another region, but only three times in the past months...not enough to know the "for sure" of it, but enough to pay attention should it happen again.) This has happened only once today.
South Florida, whatever servers that involves. No problemo to report.
Edit: Upon reflection, I have been stopping a bit short of stations, and had to activate the AB to close fast enough for a comfortable docking. However, I noticed this begin to happen regularly when I remapped to study a line of Trade books. Apparently, I had to take some points from the category that helps you navigate to speed up the study a bit.
Anyone with any sense has already left town. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
451
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Posted - 2014.02.24 19:52:00 -
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Qweasdy wrote:
I've had very similar issues to this with acceleration gates:
Assuming I'm manually aligned down the accel gate and ready to use it (incursions) if I single click activate I will take the gate instantly, however if I double click my ship will suddenly stop as it does before warping but then will proceed to align down the gate from 0m/s before finally taking the gate.
When warping to an acceleration gate (Faction Warfare complex) solo or in fleet its best to warp to 10 so you don't find yourself hung up on the gate. |
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