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Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.11.11 18:39:00 -
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The F Word wrote:
Want to get me out of high sec and into null? Start by making it not such a damn chore to be there.
- Constant CTAs?
- Getting in fleet and sitting around with your **** in your hand for 2 hours before it even starts?
- CTAs and fleets that simply last too damn long - but you can't leave because you're too far from 'home'.
- Having to endure the drama and idiosyncrasies of the leadership (a lot of whom are not fit for general consumption)?
- Having to keep the logistics of living there up and running?
- It all makes for very uninspiring gameplay - hence the meta game starts to look better and better.
What is it about nullsec that's so appealing again?
perhaps since all of your beefs are corp or alliance related you might not be so quick to condemn null because you flew with morons
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.11.11 18:47:00 -
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The F Word wrote:Morganta wrote:The F Word wrote:
Want to get me out of high sec and into null? Start by making it not such a damn chore to be there.
- Constant CTAs?
- Getting in fleet and sitting around with your **** in your hand for 2 hours before it even starts?
- CTAs and fleets that simply last too damn long - but you can't leave because you're too far from 'home'.
- Having to endure the drama and idiosyncrasies of the leadership (a lot of whom are not fit for general consumption)?
- Having to keep the logistics of living there up and running?
- It all makes for very uninspiring gameplay - hence the meta game starts to look better and better.
What is it about nullsec that's so appealing again?
perhaps since all of your beefs are corp or alliance related you might not be so quick to condemn null because you flew with morons So all the morons are in nullsec?
well, according to your post, no they're not....
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
267
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Posted - 2011.11.11 18:58:00 -
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The F Word wrote:
And there it is... why are you making inferences to my intelligence when you should be reinforcing your argument?
My point all along is that is that the gameplay isn't compelling for ME, and evidently I'm not the lone ranger.
how much explanation do you need for not everyone in null is a moron like the people you apparently have had the misfortune of flying with.
I saw nothing in your comments that were not organizational issues or that could be attributed in null, you reply with the vague assertion that you flew with everyone in null
I'm not sure what you are expecting
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.11.11 22:14:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Evei Shard wrote: In the end, mining Jaspet in a 0.4 system doesn't turn much more profit than mining Veldspar in high-sec.
So not only did the "reward" for me going into low-sec already begin to shrink, then add to it that my ore intake in 0.4 would be restricted due to the need to be able to tank/destroy the belt rats when they do show up in their destroyers and cruisers. On top of that, there's the low-sec usual types who will destroy anything they can get targeted. A few things you probably didn't take into account for your spreadsheet because you were so focused on the numbers. Low sec mining gets you access to Zydrine and Noxcium. Now usually you can find this stuff on the market. But usually it's pretty far away in the trade hubs. Therefore as well as calculating the "ISK/hr", you must take into account 1) The cost of a hauler to go pick it up and bring it back 2) the time involved. If you are an industrialist who "builds his own", just having it nearby is possibly much more profitable than having to go all the way to Jita/Amarr/Dodixie to get it, even if the "isk/hour" of mining is the same. But yes, I agree with you that you will absolutely not get rich by mining in low sec.
while true, you will need a bot fleet or to afk mine 23/7 to get any appreciable amounts, and in terms of time, risk and loss of free time its worth buying it on the market for a good many people
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.11.11 23:45:00 -
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Ptraci wrote:Morganta wrote:
while true, you will need a bot fleet or to afk mine 23/7 to get any appreciable amounts,
You would be surprised at the amount of ore a single pimped out mining barge can pull in with max skills and implants. The trick is to not get killed.
where did you say you mine at again?
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
Morganta
Peripheral Madness
The Midget Mafia
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Posted - 2011.11.12 01:41:00 -
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Reilly Duvolle wrote:good stuff.
+1
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |
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