its good

Piracy and "blue collar" crimes, in general, are viewed as fair game in the EVE community.

Scamming, scheming, and white collar crimes, on the other hand, seem a lot more controversial. I hear a lot of people say that they think of it as something outside of normal moral EVE boundaries, and others who say it's just another way to make some ISK.

So I ask you: where do you stand on scamming in EVE? Fair game, or exceptionally awful?

Personally, I think that all is fair in love and EVE. My opinion may be a little biased, since I've never been a victim of a scam (nor scammed anyone else), but I generally harbor the philosophy that anything in EVE that doesn't involve a) hacking, b) messing with someone's account or c) the real world is within the realm of fair game.

Kinda like Sex or Pizza.

I personally like Sex and Pizza...... Just stay away from those Sex with Pizza people. They nasty...........and scam alot.

I'd have thought that pizza burns would prevent the latter for most non sado masochists.

I personally like Sex and Pizza...... Just stay away from those Sex with Pizza people. They nasty...........and scam alot.

Pizza burns? But in the latest Top Gear, they demonstrated that pizza was an excellent heat shield. I'm so confused now.

Scams are OK if victim is given full information.

Problem is margin scams.

Margin scams are a grey area because victim cannot see that a buy order does not have enough isk to cover it - thats unfair.

I typically don't stand when I play.

When I do stand, it's over there.

Jeff

I tossed 2 mill at an isk doubler for entertainment, and a creative explanation on how I broke the rules.

He won't tell me D:

Jita local - and all the nasty scams lurking there - may be annoying, but they make the most populated system of the game feel like Mos Eisley.

Many other games rely on fancy graphics or some scripted npc dialogue to get that 'wretched hive of scum and villainy' vibe.

In EVE, players create it themselves. How cool is that?

Jita local - and all the nasty scams lurking there - may be annoying, but they make the most populated system of the game feel like Mos Eisley.

Many other games rely on fancy graphics or some scripted npc dialogue to get that 'wretched hive of scum and villainy' vibe.

In EVE, players create it themselves. How cool is that?

Scams are OK if victim is given full information.

Problem is margin scams.

Margin scams are a grey area because victim cannot see that a buy order does not have enough isk to cover it - thats unfair.

Maybe with WiS, we could make it more like Mos Eisley and remove the block function. Mad at a spammer? Pull out your laser pistol.

If you purposefully choose to gain the trust of someone so you can use their belief against them and take from them what they've earned, you are a bad person.

If you purposefully choose to gain the trust of someone so you can use their belief against them and take from them what they've earned, you are a bad person.

Show us on the dolly where the meanie scammer touched you.

Piracy and "blue collar" crimes, in general, are viewed as fair game in the EVE community.

Scamming, scheming, and white collar crimes, on the other hand, seem a lot more controversial. I hear a lot of people say that they think of it as something outside of normal moral EVE boundaries, and others who say it's just another way to make some ISK.

So I ask you: where do you stand on scamming in EVE? Fair game, or exceptionally awful?

Personally, I think that all is fair in love and EVE. My opinion may be a little biased, since I've never been a victim of a scam (nor scammed anyone else), but I generally harbor the philosophy that anything in EVE that doesn't involve a) hacking, b) messing with someone's account or c) the real world is within the realm of fair game.

If you're dumb enough to fall for a scam in eve you have it coming my opinion its fair. I mean come on the saying goes if its to good to be true its a trap!! Also that mega on gate has a cyno just don't shoot the cyno bait.

I'm reporting you. You're following me around harassing me just because I choose to have an opinion different than yours.

If you do not wish to have a civil conversation with me, I suggest you stop communicating with me all together.

Please show some respect.
Thanks

If you purposefully choose to gain the trust of someone so you can use their belief against them and take from them what they've earned, you are a bad person.

scam involving knowledge of game mechanics and smart tricks is OK
scam involving simple lying (like Ero1's and all ISK-doublers scams) is no-no.

So I ask you: where do you stand on scamming in EVE? Fair game, or exceptionally awful?

Send me your forum post and I'll double it.

I can't help it you couldn't follow the rules. Stop being so bitter and mad. All that anger is eating you up inside.

So I ask you: where do you stand on scamming in EVE? Fair game, or exceptionally awful?

I dont know why people are kidding themselves, like getting scammed is something that happens because you are dumb. It happens because you are new and uninformed. And yes, many of these people quit.

I dont know if in the spirit of eve you can outright ban scamming, but how prevalent it is just makes it impossible to trust anyone but the market, and even then you can get scammed.

I dont know why people are kidding themselves, like getting scammed is something that happens because you are dumb. It happens because you are new and uninformed.

I tossed 2 mill at an isk doubler for entertainment, and a creative explanation on how I broke the rules.

He won't tell me D:

If you promise me that if I lend you 100m isk, and within 1 month you'll repay me 110m isk, and you choose to keep all of it and never return it, then you are a bad person for lying to me and stealing.

*edit* just for clarification, having seen you support stealing, I'll never consider you worthy of being trusted. So don't even try.

greedy victims

And the out of game meta scamming is just bad.

Then EVE is not the proper game for them and the chance that 'quitters' would otherwise have become long-term players is pretty low. People who quit because they got scammed will quit because they get ganked too often, because they get wardecced too much, or because they get bountied again and again, etc. etc. etc. IT'S ALL SO UNFAIR!!!

Overcoming adversity is a requirement of EVE. It's supposed to be hard. HTFU?

Besides, scammers need love too.

Have you hugged a scammer today?



YK

So I ask you: where do you stand on scamming in EVE? Fair game, or exceptionally awful?

there is no way to discern if an order is legit or not.

a lot more controversial

I am really, really tired of hearing this lie repeated.

[Edit: Hell's freaking bells, you even admit it yourself 2 sentences later.

Then EVE is not the proper game for them and the chance that 'quitters' would otherwise have become long-term players is pretty low. People who quit because they got scammed will quit because they get ganked too often, because they get wardecced too much, or because they get bountied again and again, etc. etc. etc. IT'S ALL SO UNFAIR!!!

Overcoming adversity is a requirement of EVE. It's supposed to be hard. HTFU?

Besides, scammers need love too.

Have you hugged a scammer today?



YK

CCP should introduce some sort of gameplay mechanic for private detectives. These crimes should be investigated by other players!!

Seriously though, that would be cool.

CCP should introduce some sort of gameplay mechanic for private detectives. These crimes should be investigated by other players!!

Seriously though, that would be cool.

Who would buy a mispriced contract in Jita?

ALOT of people.

There is already a mechanic. It's called Due Diligence

Allow me to introduce it to you:

Due Diligence - DD*

1. An investigation or audit of a potential investment. Due diligence serves to confirm all material facts in regards to a sale.

2. Generally, due diligence refers to the care a reasonable person should take before entering into an agreement or a transaction with another party.

*Credit to Investopedia - http://www.investopedia.com/terms/d/duediligence.asp

There! I saved CCP programming time and did a solid for the community. Donations not required, but are welcomed