Originally by: Petrus Sednanref

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I think the real difference is about the interpretation of the following:

ISS - area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10'
CVA - area including f-yh5b and 3kb-10

It really is a misunderstanding, that now CVA doesn't want to admit.

Originally by: Aralis

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Thank you for your response and sympathies on your illness.

Obviously this is unsatisfactory and means war starting now.

I would say in passing that I find the extent of your confusion over our claim bizarre - when it is actually clear. You say we claim out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10 (correctly). And yet do not regard 3kb-10 as part of our claim.

War is on.

Originally by: Count TaSessine

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Sorry about this late reply from me, but I've quite literally been in my deathbed, it felt like it anyway, with a throat infection these last 24 hours

Regrettably, this incident is a direct result of misunderstanding due to communication from Aralis. Despite a request for specific systems and constellations, the only information ISS received from Aralis on the CVA planned future expansion was the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10.'

By placing POS in 3KB-10//Q-6LGI we have honoured Aralis and CVA's initial request and chosen POS Placements and access routes that do not include the area 'heading east out of f-yh5b and 3kb-10'.

CVA have not previously laid claim to this area through any recognisable means:
- Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans include 3KB-10
- Not clearly communicated their potential expansion plans to include Q-6LGI constellation
- Not claimed the area on the territorial map
- Not claimed soverignty using POS in the constellation in question
- Not claimed sovreighty using pos even the neighbouring constellation

Therefore ISS cannot reasonably recognise CVA's alleged future expansion plan to include these systems.

ISS will continue to honor the agreement to stay out of the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10'.

If CVA properly claim the area on the Territorial map or claim sovereignty, ISS will cease placing POS in other systems in the Q-6LGI constellation.

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Originally by: James Lyrus

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So, is the final word on the matter that CVA will be shooting ISS? We have a clear policy on not shooting first. We would be saddened if we had to treat people with whom we had cordial relations as we would a pirate organisation. Perhaps it would be worth being careful that no hostilities were exchanged until there were some clarity that the situation could not be resolved in a satisfactory fashion?

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War is on.

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Originally by: James Lyrus

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Oh well, that's a shame.

Are you planning to play this out on the Empire front as well?

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Originally by: Count TaSessine

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the only information ISS received from Aralis on the CVA planned future expansion was the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10.'

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Originally by: Beringe

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I urge the CVA to resolve this issue through diplomacy. All ready, we have an ISSN member stating that they do not want this war, and I believe that the tiniest bit of negotiation is all that is needed for them to move their towers out of this system.

This is tarnishing your reputation, CVA.


I also urge the ISS to move the towers out. You do not have to wait for the CVA to contact you, and you can unilaterally end this war by moving out. Surely, this single system (as I understand it) isn't worth fighthing over?

You have much trust and respect to gain by this, ISS.

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Originally by: Zooish

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Are you official representative of the ISS?

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I'm in the ....... know ...

But to ask for anything at the end of a war dec is going to get the CVA nothing.

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