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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.19 12:57:00 -
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^^ Who cares
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.19 14:48:00 -
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Edited by: Zooish on 19/04/2006 14:48:13
"As an Outsider"
/me looks at the Eve Map = system not claimed.
/me looks at the "Running to the Boards Post" instead of contacting the ISS = looking for a fight.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.19 22:08:00 -
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ISS will continue to honor the agreement to stay out of the area 'heading east out to f-yh5b and 3kb-10'.
If CVA properly claim the area on the Territorial map or claim sovereignty, ISS will cease placing POS in other systems in the Q-6LGI constellation.
Seems like common sense ... CVA wanted a fight and decided to whine to the forums ....
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.20 00:37:00 -
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Sorry CVA ... you agreed and stated you claim area ... dont start moaning because you now decide you want more ...
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.20 10:39:00 -
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I would suggest the CVA "Yap Yaps" keep quiet and let the "talkers" get round the table.
Either that, beat your chest, shout war and watch you empire, outpost and fleet get slapped.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.20 15:55:00 -
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Nice to see the CVA declaring war against the ISS.
Forget the "behind doors" diplomatic approach. You want war, good :)
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.20 17:33:00 -
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Chain Gang has a point ... forget all the long sentences.
They asked there pilots to stay away and the cva sent a war message ... seems clear.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 07:12:00 -
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The CVA have been looking for war, its easy, they want the whole of Providence "Soon" but doesn't have the manpower to take it.....
This matter could have been resolved behind close doors, and then again when the ISSN was ordered to stay at home. Instead the CVA ran to the boards shouting "WAR" and then followed through by placing a War Dec.
This is not rational behaviour, its simply looking for a fight and trying to justify why.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 08:13:00 -
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Quit hiding behind your pseudonym, coward.
Maybe the truth hurts ... but to call foul and then to War DEc is simply the wrong thing to do ....
If the CVA want a peacefull end to this matter then the right thing to do would be to remove the war ..... the ISSN tried to compromise by asking all pilots to stay away from all CVA space. maybe its time for the CVA to show its peacefull intent.
Anything else is hiding behind words .... the CVA either want a peacefull outcome or not ... the 20 pages of dribble can be cut down to a simply "Yes" or "No".
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 08:18:00 -
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Who's right or wrong doesn't really matter ....
To ask the ISS to do anything with a gun to their head is wrong .. I'm sure if you remove the war declaration then a peacefull outcome will be close ...
BTW the ISS Navy is bigger than you entire alliance ... you sure you want to go down this route.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 08:29:00 -
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Are you official representative of the ISS?
I'm in the ....... know ...
But to ask for anything at the end of a war dec is going to get the CVA nothing.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 10:41:00 -
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Which applies to ALL outposts, I think you'll find.
And ANYONE can stroll on in with a BPC and kick things off.
But there is no point ..... why move equipment 20 jumps through 0.0 to an Outpost when you can build Carriers and Dreads in any 0.4 system next door to empire.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 11:15:00 -
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So you think ISS should build POS just anywhere they like because almost *all* borders in 0.0 are quite imaginary...
So everyones sits in empire because I may want claim the entire provdence region..
Thats why Eve has a territory map sticky .... so people can publish there claimed space and not act like children and shout "I want everything" !!
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 14:35:00 -
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Edited by: Zooish on 21/04/2006 14:34:58
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Official ISS response was "no, the stations stay." Doesn't sound like any "sorting out" to me.
ISS pilots in our space has never been an issue, so offering to withdraw them is a moot point. The stations are the issue, and ISS has shown zero interest in withdrawing them. Hence, war.
If an alliance is talking to you to resolve problems caused by your own inaccurate territory information (you own words) then declaring war has to the utmost insult.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:04:00 -
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Better options ...
1) The CVA remove the War Dec and everybody talks like adults 
2) The CVA / ISS fight ....
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.21 23:07:00 -
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As to your question of WHY- you miss the entire point.
CVA are not against ISS building in provi, no one really is, I even own shares in ISS providence! The real problem here is ISS is breaking its charter, breaking its tradition of neutrality and respect for the neighbors it wants to develope with. CVA has done the right thing in standing up to ISS over this, you can never appease someone even once! they will always want more!
Complete rubbish and "wordsmith" trying to hide the truth ....
Aralis has stated in many logged conversations that he doesn't want ISS "anywhere" in Providence and he would find any reason to oppose it and declare war ..
Nothing else matter .... all the fancy speeches, all the shouting up the Amarr.
Stop hiding .... and playing political games ..... remove the I've got a big gun attitude, because you haven't, remove the War Dec and I'm sure it will be sorted.
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Zooish
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Posted - 2006.04.23 10:08:00 -
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Count TaSessine made the decision, without seriously negotiating with the CVA first it seems, to force the CVA either to surrender their claim to the rights to expand Amarr into that system to a non-Amarrian capitalist or fight.
They made the only reasonable decision in the situation.
Count TaSessine made the decision that it was quite simply cheaper to alienate the CVA and force a confrontation at the cost of the neutrality he supposedly endorses than it was to move the stations.
Every drop of blood spilled is on his hands for that arrogant and coldy capitalist decision. Every last drop.
Until that statement is changed, the Count is giveing the CVA no choice. There cannot be effective negotiations when the blanket answer of 'no, we dont care about your opinion here' has already been given.
So your saying "as well" that providence is only open to "True Amarrians" and all other races / corporations are not welcome ... this kinda sums up the CVA attitude.
Providence is only open for them .. and the rest is a smoke screen to hide their true greed.
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