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Cummilla	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:35:00 - [31] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Ni'ka My final straw was just now when I lost my Combat Recon /Huginn to a 1 month old person in a Maller. It's not minnie ships that suck. IT'S YOU haha.....someone had to say it!
pWnZA11	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:36:00 - [32] Was a recommendation. Just based on what a saw with it having 6 mids and nice resists.
juduzz	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:40:00 - [33] Try a passive sheild tank THEN your hugin will be tough, took on one with my pilgrim and was a PAIN to kill NOS basicly didnt effect it, it was a very close fight. ....and min resists are great against and if you think the vaga sucks well damn best to just quote what ikvar posted unfortunately.
Berak FalCheran	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:43:00 - [34] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Ni'ka My final straw was just now when I lost my Combat Recon /Huginn to a 1 month old person in a Maller. It's not minnie ships that suck. IT'S YOU Ikvar wins the forums. In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
Sovy Kurosei	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:49:00 - [35] Oops, I thought that the 150mm railguns were cruiser sized guns. Well, the dual 150mm railguns are. I guess this thread is living proof that you don't need twenty million skillpoints to kill another player that is sitting in a HAC. ------------- Rules for ship combat. 1) Bring a ship. 2) Bring all your friends in ships. 3) Bring ammo. Bring the right ammo. Bring lots of it.
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.04.20 20:55:00 - [36] Originally by: Berak FalCheran Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Ni'ka My final straw was just now when I lost my Combat Recon /Huginn to a 1 month old person in a Maller. It's not minnie ships that suck. IT'S YOU Ikvar wins the forums. nah your sigs win the forums, ikvar is runner up I post on the forums for MaxSuicide that makes me cool? Originally by: Dark Shikari Dragonball Z> all other anime
Murauke	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:05:00 - [37] Edited by: Murauke on 20/04/2006 21:09:52
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:07:00 - [38] minnie recons do suck, unless you're flying with a partner in a phoenix or something. But minnie hacks rock.
BellaMaria	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:12:00 - [39] Originally by: Murauke Edited by: Murauke on 20/04/2006 21:09:52 Originally by: Murauke Hey retard, do you even know what nerf means? It means making it suck, your saying they suck already and you want them to get nerfed even more even though they dont need a nerf or a unnerf? Common sense is all you need, think about it, nerf = nerf balls = soft foamy dodge balls No, you are Blind. The op however is misguided, and probably a newcomer to Eve PvP.
Jenny Spitfire	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:14:00 - [40] Originally by: Sovy Kurosei Oops, I thought that the 150mm railguns were cruiser sized guns. Well, the dual 150mm railguns are. I guess this thread is living proof that you don't need twenty million skillpoints to kill another player that is sitting in a HAC. Erm... I thought combat recon is a combat recon. A HAC is a HAC. Combat recon is better in a group, isnt it? ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT! RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
DUFFMANX	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:16:00 - [41] U r wrong, wrong oh so wrong, minnie hacs\recons and they do not suck. I have flown each at 1 point or another and they work quiet well, i think its how u fly it or ur setup. For comparisson to ur argument about the resists, i fly amarr, gallente and minmatar hacs\recons and imho i believe each is balanced to play both their strenghts and weakness.
Cpt Placeholder	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:17:00 - [42] lol i remember watching one fight... he starts at point blank i bet you agreed to fight him at point blank very very bad idea to agree to that min recon is a gang ship anyways not much of a pwnmobile (just in a few fights)
pWnZA11	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:19:00 - [43] I think this thread should really be about stacking t2 ammo penalties. Moving 60m/s with hail s ftl =(
Johnny Twoshoe	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:21:00 - [44] Jenny: Only two of the Recons (Speaking purely from my personal point of view) are really any good solo - the Curse and the Rook. The latter especially. Ni'ka: Minmatar ships tend rely less on tank and more on speed. Don't expect a Vagabond with 80% resists across the board. Expect a Vagabond which uses speed to survive and to hit and run. As someone else has said, Minmatar ships tend to hit substantially harder than others over time (autocannons) or alpha-strike (artillery), thus they can get in, hit hard, and get out before their tank is broken. A good example of a Vagabond setup to do this is my CEO's Vaga, which uses T2 220mm ACs (Which hurt with skills), an MWD and IIRC two large extenders. He hasn't a true tank but it's enough to allow him a HnR kill. Note that I've never flown a Minmatar HAC, and these opinions are based on my personal observations and information gathered from Minmatar pilots in my corporation. ~~~ Credits to Kilrock for this awesome sig.
Sergeant Spot	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:32:00 - [45] The Vagabond is arguably the best HAC in the game. It is beyond argument that the Vagabond is an seriously above average ship in the right hands, even compared to other HACs.
Chewan Mesa	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:40:00 - [46] Sorry guys I'm too tired to rea through all posts, but wtf?
Johnny Twoshoe	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:42:00 - [47] Originally by: Sergeant Spot The Vagabond is arguably the best HAC in the game. It is beyond argument that the Vagabond is an seriously above average ship in the right hands, even compared to other HACs. Vagabonds are frightening. I refuse to fight one in my Zealot. My Zealot!! o.O ~~~ Credits to Kilrock for this awesome sig.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:46:00 - [48] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Ni'ka My final straw was just now when I lost my Combat Recon /Huginn to a 1 month old person in a Maller. It's not minnie ships that suck. IT'S YOU qft. accept it and move on. maybe learn to fly your ships in tech one before losing a t2 one... Win a Cerberus!! sigs of the 23/24/25 hijack just as well -eris yarrrr, i shall retake my sig -HippoKing Not a chance, our 1337 sig haXx0r sk1llz are too powerful! - Wrangler Ho-Ho-Hooooooo, Merry Saturday!11 - Immy Yo ho ho and a bottle of BReeEEEEeee.... - Jacques ARRRRRRchambault Stop spamming with "QFT" >:\|. - Teblin Who pwned who? ~kieron RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran SIG PARTY!!! -Falke
Costae Rika	Posted - 2006.04.20 21:55:00 - [49] Best post in a long time..hybrids..hqaha
Berak FalCheran	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:07:00 - [50] Originally by: Spartan239 nah your sigs win the forums, ikvar is runner up aww <3 huggles In short: Cry me a river, build a bridge, and get over it.
Ishen Villone	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:46:00 - [51] He brought a knife to a gunfight. And you let him beat you.
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.04.20 22:52:00 - [52] Originally by: Berak FalCheran Originally by: Spartan239 nah your sigs win the forums, ikvar is runner up aww <3 huggles the minie tank/car with gun one had me an max laughing at ts for ages I post on the forums for MaxSuicide that makes me cool? Originally by: Dark Shikari Dragonball Z> all other anime
Yezah	Posted - 2006.04.20 23:35:00 - [53] Is this a joke?
Famine Aligher'ri	Posted - 2006.04.20 23:50:00 - [54] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Ni'ka My final straw was just now when I lost my Combat Recon /Huginn to a 1 month old person in a Maller. It's not minnie ships that suck. IT'S YOU rofl Ikvar
Calisto Cody	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:26:00 - [55] Originally by: Ikvar Originally by: Ni'ka My final straw was just now when I lost my Combat Recon /Huginn to a 1 month old person in a Maller. It's not minnie ships that suck. IT'S YOU lmao what everyine is thinking The Black Swan Society Berneh is not appropriate for the forums -
Cmdr Patrick	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:31:00 - [56] un-nerf the vagabond.
Lonectzn	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:44:00 - [57] Originally by: Cmdr Patrick un-nerf the vagabond. Signed. I need an extra mid -----------------
pWnZA11	Posted - 2006.04.21 00:48:00 - [58] 5/4 mid/low slot setup would be nice =)
Rak'Kabal Kain	Posted - 2006.04.21 01:05:00 - [59] 1 more med on the vaga 4 the OMFG SEX
OrangeAfroMan	Posted - 2006.04.21 05:29:00 - [60] Edited by: OrangeAfroMan on 21/04/2006 05:30:19 Originally by: Johnny Twoshoe Jenny: Only two of the Recons (Speaking purely from my personal point of view) are really any good solo - the Curse and the Rook. The latter especially. Ni'ka: Minmatar ships tend rely less on tank and more on speed. Don't expect a Vagabond with 80% resists across the board. Expect a Vagabond which uses speed to survive and to hit and run. As someone else has said, Minmatar ships tend to hit substantially harder than others over time (autocannons) or alpha-strike (artillery), thus they can get in, hit hard, and get out before their tank is broken. A good example of a Vagabond setup to do this is my CEO's Vaga, which uses T2 220mm ACs (Which hurt with skills), an MWD and IIRC two large extenders. He hasn't a true tank but it's enough to allow him a HnR kill. Note that I've never flown a Minmatar HAC, and these opinions are based on my personal observations and information gathered from Minmatar pilots in my corporation. Last night I tanked 3 battleships [scorp, mega and something], 2 HACs [sac and zealot], an AF [harpy], a Crow, and a cruiser or two on the side, indefinately in my STABBER while sentries picked them off. [and this was not a noob corp at all btw] Speed FTW. Originally by: Slink Grinsdikild CAPS LOCK IS THE CRUISE CONTROL FOR AWESOME

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