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Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2645
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Posted - 2014.03.18 14:12:00 -
[151] - Quote
Garven Dreis wrote:I heard a rumour that Gevlon Goblin got scammed out of an alliance, any truth to that? Now's it's a ~high sec~ mercenary alliance with an anti-goon bias. True story bro.
Apparently it isn't a "Marmite 2" alliance, even though it operates in exactly the same way no besides recruitment. Apparently if General Lemming wanted a 2nd Marmite corp, he would just merge everyone into Marmite, thou with how incredibly precious their efficiency is to them, I'd very much doubt that.
The long and short of it though is that Lemmings is now the Marmite noobie corp that allows lower efficiency. Once you show you can camp Jita and dock fast enough when in trouble you'll get moved to Marmite. Both corps will continue to be mercenaries to the same extent that Marmite currently does (so none, since nobody in their right mind considers Marmite's an actual merc corp), and they will both shoot goons (as they have done for years). Gevlon will be some, but less of their war bills (as reality and his weird method of working out his profit margins seem to be conflicting and the donations aren't pouring in like he expected).
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
4371
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Posted - 2014.03.18 14:27:00 -
[152] - Quote
Would this be a good time to post the January evemail I got from Gevlon offering to support me if I betrayed General Lemming?
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6663
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Posted - 2014.03.18 16:40:00 -
[153] - Quote
gotta hand it to gevlon, he came up with a new and exciting way of saying "i failed" without admitting personal failure
instead of other people having failed him through no fault of his own, his failure is actually not a failure!
Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
4373
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:11:00 -
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Even though he carefully made clear early on that he can never fail due to his wizardry of shifting blame and accolades, and even though this appears on the surface to be a failure of epic proportions, I disagree.
No, instead this is a marvel of how far his project has come in such a short period of time. It took TEST much longer to mature into adulthood. Like TEST leaving the nest and holding Fountain for as long as they wanted to, I predict Gevlon's project will now blossom and achieve wild success.
The only way this can fail is if Gevlon and friends decide to give up. I look forward to many more weeks, I mean um years, of glorious battle reports until victory. I must ask this though... please let Harry Forever plant the victory flag in VFK.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Twenty Five Percent
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.03.18 18:46:00 -
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So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step? |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
4373
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Posted - 2014.03.18 19:09:00 -
[156] - Quote
Twenty Five Percent wrote:So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step?
More blog posts with more nasty surprises. And since he will have more time on his hands to make isk, more isk will transfer out of Gevlon's wallet.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Twenty Five Percent
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
3
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Posted - 2014.03.18 19:16:00 -
[157] - Quote
Erotica 1 wrote:Twenty Five Percent wrote:So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step? More blog posts with more nasty surprises. And since he will have more time on his hands to make isk, more isk will transfer out of Gevlon's wallet.
But the question remains: does one man have enough isk to affect the gameplay (defeat) of 18,000 real people? I believe the presentation by Sion at EVE Down Under put the CFC numbers at around 18k real people and 36k characters.
Can one man defeat so many in a video game? And should he be able to?
Or is he just a laughing stock and delusional? |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
4373
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Posted - 2014.03.18 19:44:00 -
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We cannot know the answer to that until he has invested all of his in game wealth.
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
mynnna
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
3117
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Posted - 2014.03.19 03:36:00 -
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Twenty Five Percent wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Twenty Five Percent wrote:So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step? More blog posts with more nasty surprises. And since he will have more time on his hands to make isk, more isk will transfer out of Gevlon's wallet. But the question remains: does one man have enough isk to affect the gameplay (defeat) of 18,000 real people? I believe the presentation by Sion at EVE Down Under put the CFC numbers at around 18k real people and 36k characters. Can one man defeat so many in a video game? And should he be able to? Or is he just a laughing stock and delusional?
The premise of your questions is that one man can, through the application of his isk, bring about the defeat of a group of arbitrary size. Supposing that is true, it is then reasonable to conclude that the opposite is true - that in the very narrowest of cases, another individual could utilize his own isk to block or prevent the defeat of that same group.
In that case, Gevlon's goal is clearly doomed, as I alone am several times wealthier than him. So are my fellow directors of finance. So are many other goons, and the number at least as wealthy as him is even larger still. 
Member of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal |
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6669
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Posted - 2014.03.19 12:53:00 -
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and because he's busy flushing his money down the toilet as fast as he possibly can the disparity in wealth between him and us is only expanding :sun:
Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Disadvantaged Persons Outreach Division:
"We hire one-half of the working class to kill the other half." |
Louis Robichaud
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
180
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:45:00 -
[161] - Quote
mynnna wrote:Twenty Five Percent wrote:Erotica 1 wrote:Twenty Five Percent wrote:So now that gevlon has divorced himself from the failure of darwins lemmings and marmite what is the next step? More blog posts with more nasty surprises. And since he will have more time on his hands to make isk, more isk will transfer out of Gevlon's wallet. But the question remains: does one man have enough isk to affect the gameplay (defeat) of 18,000 real people? I believe the presentation by Sion at EVE Down Under put the CFC numbers at around 18k real people and 36k characters. Can one man defeat so many in a video game? And should he be able to? Or is he just a laughing stock and delusional? The premise of your questions is that one man can, through the application of his isk, bring about the defeat of a group of arbitrary size. Supposing that is true, it is then reasonable to conclude that the opposite is true - that in the very narrowest of cases, another individual could utilize his own isk to block or prevent the defeat of that same group. In that case, Gevlon's goal is clearly doomed, as I alone am several times wealthier than him. So are my fellow directors of finance. So are many other goons, and the number at least as wealthy as him is even larger still.
I usually find "look how big my wallet is!!" posts to be a tad crass, but in this case it is eminently relevant. Amusingly enough, it's also an argument that he could understand.
Maybe he's going to have to spend the next few years making more isk :D |
Isabela Valentine
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
12
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Posted - 2014.03.19 14:10:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Garven Dreis wrote:I heard a rumour that Gevlon Goblin got scammed out of an alliance, any truth to that? Now's it's a ~high sec~ mercenary alliance with an anti-goon bias. True story bro. Apparently it isn't a "Marmite 2" alliance, even though it operates in exactly the same way no besides recruitment. Apparently if General Lemming wanted a 2nd Marmite corp, he would just merge everyone into Marmite, thou with how incredibly precious their efficiency is to them, I'd very much doubt that. The long and short of it though is that Lemmings is now the Marmite noobie corp that allows lower efficiency. Once you show you can camp Jita and dock fast enough when in trouble you'll get moved to Marmite. Both corps will continue to be mercenaries to the same extent that Marmite currently does (so none, since nobody in their right mind considers Marmite's an actual merc corp), and they will both shoot goons (as they have done for years). Gevlon will be some, but less of their war bills (as reality and his weird method of working out his profit margins seem to be conflicting and the donations aren't pouring in like he expected).
haha, I like you |
Powers Sa
971
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Posted - 2014.03.24 10:43:00 -
[163] - Quote
You guys, Danalee joined razor.
help.
she's blue.
lol |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2726
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:20:00 -
[164] - Quote
lol, weird.
If you can't beat them, join them maybe? Or really bad spai!
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Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
513
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:33:00 -
[165] - Quote
Eh. Marmite was always about the money and easy kills. I dont think they care enough about the end goal of one moronic goblin.
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
4482
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Posted - 2014.03.24 13:33:00 -
[166] - Quote
Another "shocking" monday blog post...
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Bayonnefrog
Hedion University
Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2014.03.24 14:32:00 -
[167] - Quote
I used to support the Goblin character on the POCO thing but after the "victory" post I am against him. How can you declare victory when they're still there? and they still receive income from them? Makes no sense.
I feel like the parameters of "victory" are changed by him to whatever is convenient. |
Professor Clio
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
394
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:58:00 -
[168] - Quote
All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb. As of last night we own over 400 of the things. All the extra income will go to our expanding ship replacement programs and our FC loyalty point store (which is quite neat and very popular with our FCs)
gevlon did get his wish in that there are no more goon pocos. Now let's see if he calls it a day and rests on his laurels or tries to hit the goons where they actually live and go after assets they really care about. Personally i hope he does, for the entertainment value. |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2731
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:35:00 -
[169] - Quote
Professor Clio wrote:All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb. As of last night we own over 400 of the things. All the extra income will go to our expanding ship replacement programs and our FC loyalty point store (which is quite neat and very popular with our FCs)
gevlon did get his wish in that there are no more goon pocos. Now let's see if he calls it a day and rests on his laurels or tries to hit the goons where they actually live and go after assets they really care about. Personally i hope he does, for the entertainment value. Well with you being "obviously created by goons", that surely means the goons still own them right? Or could it possibly be that he was wrong? He wrote so... many... posts on it, so it must be true right?
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations
CODE.
4490
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:43:00 -
[170] - Quote
Do you think if Gevlon owned all the pocos, he would tax the **** out of them?
See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2936
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:47:00 -
[171] - Quote
Professor Clio wrote:All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb. As of last night we own over 400 of the things. All the extra income will go to our expanding ship replacement programs and our FC loyalty point store (which is quite neat and very popular with our FCs)
gevlon did get his wish in that there are no more goon pocos. Now let's see if he calls it a day and rests on his laurels or tries to hit the goons where they actually live and go after assets they really care about. Personally i hope he does, for the entertainment value.
He can't claim victory without back-pedalling and admitting that RvB aren't secretly goons, or he has to admit "goons" still own them.
Oh... Wait a minute. He already moved the goalposts again and claimed the whole thing was about making them go away as monuments.
So, despite the fact he didn't take them, and the people he was grrrrrr-ing about still own them, he has won. Again.
To be fair it was clear he was scrambling for an 'out' the moment he realised that he would need to actually timer-fight for them, which is a fight he knows he would never ever win.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Real Serious PVPer
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
15
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Posted - 2014.03.25 03:30:00 -
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This might be serious enough for me to get involved in. I'll look at all the facts and determine is there's enough serious PVP in it for me.
-áSerious about being serious- Putting the "P "into PVP one fight at a time.
-áMUFC |
Powers Sa
982
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Posted - 2014.03.25 09:26:00 -
[173] - Quote
hint: there isn't. I formed fleets for every poco timer block. No challenge was presented.
lol |
Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
4
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Posted - 2014.03.25 10:35:00 -
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@Professor Clio
'All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb.'
In the interest of you (RvB) not sounding like the Goon Highsec Poco Division can you may wish to expand on that?
@Khanh'rhh
'He can't claim victory without back-pedalling and admitting that RvB aren't secretly goons, or he has to admit "goons" still own them.'
Also the goons can't really claim they still owned the Pocos without 'outing' the RvB as goons can they? While the goons can probably cook up some good excuse as to why the Pocos moving to RvB was a victory to the vast majority of people this seems more like a defeat.
'To be fair it was clear he was scrambling for an 'out' the moment he realised that he would need to actually timer-fight for them, which is a fight he knows he would never ever win.'
You seem to be saying the goons still own these Pocos as you say he could never remove these from goon ownership. Professor Clio seems to think RvB has acquired them .... oh wait? |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2939
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:12:00 -
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Man, I know I confused you by making whether 'Goons = RvB' conditional on your own level of tinfoil, but you seem to have done both at the same time and wrapped yourself up in your own illogic.
So to break it down into Eve-O readable language:
Gevlon said goons were bad people and wanted to take our POCOs
Gevlon said RvB were bad people, because they were goons.
RvB still own all the POCOs
ergo, by Gevlon's narrative, Goons still own all the POCOs.
Of course whether "we" own them or not has since become unimportant, as he moved the goalposts to "taking the Goonswarm tag off them".
Gevlon has neatly proved two things:
- You can do anything when you set your mind to it declare your win conditions after observing the outcome
- That there's a large umber of people in high-sec who will believe literally anything you tell them.
Guys from Marmite liked my posts where I called Gevlon delusional, and that he was being played for a fool, so that, plus the fact they eventually told him to get lost, shows they were just in it for the free wardecs. But goddamn, a lot of you clowns in Lemmings were eating that **** up. It was pretty hilarious.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Khanh'rhh
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
2939
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Posted - 2014.03.25 11:28:00 -
[176] - Quote
FYI I'm using the past tense, since now you're relegated to just another station camping group, no one cares where you are or what you're doing.
"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual, issued in the 1930 |
Professor Clio
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
398
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:02:00 -
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Joseph Soprano wrote:@Professor Clio
'All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb.'
In the interest of you (RvB) not sounding like the Goon Highsec Poco Division can you may wish to expand on that?
When I say aquired I mean precisely that. Goon POCOs were all transfered to RvB. In exchange we sent them a one time isk payment. From now on all isk coming from these POCOs stays in RvB.
We like the goons a lot, it was a pleasure working with them on this. I think the feeling is mutual on their end.I have to especially commend Powers for having the stamina to keep organising those rep ops for so long. That said the RvBee POCO agreement is dead since there's no longer a bee part. |
Joseph Soprano
Darwins Lemmings Holding
Darwins Lemmings
4
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:20:00 -
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Joseph Soprano wrote:@Professor Clio
'All the goon pocos were acquired by rvb.'
In the interest of you (RvB) not sounding like the Goon Highsec Poco Division can you may wish to expand on that?
@Khanh'rhh
'He can't claim victory without back-pedalling and admitting that RvB aren't secretly goons, or he has to admit "goons" still own them.'
Also the goons can't really claim they still owned the Pocos without 'outing' the RvB as goons can they? While the goons can probably cook up some good excuse as to why the Pocos moving to RvB was a victory to the vast majority of people this seems more like a defeat.
'To be fair it was clear he was scrambling for an 'out' the moment he realised that he would need to actually timer-fight for them, which is a fight he knows he would never ever win.'
You seem to be saying the goons still own these Pocos as you say he could never remove these from goon ownership. Professor Clio seems to think RvB has acquired them .... oh wait?
EDIT : Thx to Professor Clio for expanding on RvB's point.
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Powers Sa
986
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Posted - 2014.03.25 17:33:00 -
[179] - Quote
None of us have left, we ganked 3 orcas today, we ganked tengus the day before that, miners tengus and mauraders the day before that, and so on.
The fact that your CEO messaged me and offered to kick gevlon out of his own highsec wardec alliance was pretty telling.
lol |
Leto Thule
Sons of Retribution
515
|
Posted - 2014.03.25 17:55:00 -
[180] - Quote
Joseph Soprano wrote:
@Khanh'rhh
Sorry I must have missed the bit were you said you were fleeing back to null sec because ..... and that you claim you no longer own those pocos because....
LOL @ "Fleeing back to nullsec". (You know, where the hold their own SOV..)
Killboard
https://zkillboard.com/character/90841161/ |
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