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Illadelph Justice Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 46	Posted - 2011.11.11 21:39:00 - [1] - Quote Hey dudes I have an idea, okay? I want a SHIP that can carry SHIPS. Yo dawg, I heard you like ships. Basically, it would be a ship that can carry assembled and fitted ships. THE PROBLEM Now I know what you're thinking. "But Mr. Justice, carriers and rorquals already do this, and they have fancy jump drives that can carry them across lightyears at a time! And Orcas can carry fitted stuff too, even through gates! And if you courier contract them, freighters can carry your fitted ships. And think about supercaps! They can carry all kinds of crazy **!" I know this, friends, I know this well. But each of these ships do not fill the role themselves, and none of them do a good job of it. Carriers are awesome, I have one. They work great at carrying what you need around, but they can't go through gates and thus cannot go through high sec. Rorquals and supercaps too, obviously. Orcas can, but they only have an SMA of 400k m3 of space. That's not enough for a single battleship. Freighters don't work either because they're just a little too small and they're not even supposed to carry fitted ships. Courier contracts are a workaround. THE SOLUTION** I propose the creation of a ship that carries ships. Essentially it would work like this. Here's what I'm thinking: - one million m3 Ship Maintenance Array - 1,500 cargohold - no fitting slots, no jump drive - I dont care about any other stats (I assume it would be kinda like a freighter) This size SMA is like a carrier and rorqual's, and it would allow a person to carry a combination of battleship (or 2) and some collection of smaller ships inside. The cargo space is small enough that it does not replace the usefulness of industrials, freighters, and orcas, but large enough that someone could move modules and ammo along with their ships. It would also be a big, dumb and slow ship like a freighter, and probably have a similar price tag. Now, I know you guys got some sweet industrial ship designs in that create a starship contest. This is a chance to use one of them, amirite? THE WHY We live in an amazingly nomadic EVE ONLINE. We have transient alliances that travel from one end of space to the other looking for fights, space or whatever. We have people who follow incursions from constellation to constellation like it's a herd of buffalo. We have people who decided to move somewhere else and need to move ships JUST BECAUSE. It's exceedingly tedious to move fitted ships one at a time, and can get insanely expensive to repackage them and destroy the rigs just to ship them in a freighter. I see this ship as being specifically for that lifestyle player. It is, at its core, a nomadic gypsy living caravan for New Eden's transient hobos.
Evei Shard Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 7	Posted - 2011.11.11 21:49:00 - [2] - Quote This idea has been suggested in one form or another a few times before, and I've always liked it. Some suggested that there be a sort of moving space station "hive ship", but a smaller one for being a solo nomad would be pretty nice. Important feature: Make it lockable, so a solo player can undock in a ship and not have someone else steal it. It's a mobile POS, so should be password protected. Important drawback: Like a POS, it's always there, even when you log off. Someone else can figure out the details on if it should be shielded in some fashion like a POS and how it would work. Would be great for wormholes, and if strong enough might get some people into low/null Profit favors the prepared
Illadelph Justice Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 46	Posted - 2011.11.11 21:55:00 - [3] - Quote Man, that is way wackier than I had in mind. I just want a tow truck.
Evei Shard Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 7	Posted - 2011.11.11 22:09:00 - [4] - Quote The "tow truck" idea is great. I support it. Though you might want to consider that it would be an obvious gank target. People would see one and know there is a good chance that someone has everything they own inside. Again, there is the issue with locking the doors as well. Currently if you were to leave a ship like that in order to hop into your BC, it only takes one person with skill to fly the tow truck to fly up and steal it while you are waiting for your session timer to let you stow your ship and get back in. Again, I definitely support the idea, but am merely suggesting some changes to keep the lifestyle from being relegated to an unused portion of the game due to theft and easy destruction. :) Profit favors the prepared
Illadelph Justice Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 47	Posted - 2011.11.11 22:34:00 - [5] - Quote Evei Shard wrote: The "tow truck" idea is great. I support it. Though you might want to consider that it would be an obvious gank target. People would see one and know there is a good chance that someone has everything they own inside. Again, there is the issue with locking the doors as well. Currently if you were to leave a ship like that in order to hop into your BC, it only takes one person with skill to fly the tow truck to fly up and steal it while you are waiting for your session timer to let you stow your ship and get back in. Again, I definitely support the idea, but am merely suggesting some changes to keep the lifestyle from being relegated to an unused portion of the game due to theft and easy destruction. :) You could, ya know, dock it and get in something else. Like most people do with Orcas and carriers. And I don't really forsee anyone trying to ghostride this like they might a carrier because it doesn't have a jump drive.
Illadelph Justice Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 47	Posted - 2011.11.11 22:47:00 - [6] - Quote Edited it because I realized I was saying "ship maintenance array" instead of "ship maintenance bay." That may have been confusing.
tankus2 Endless Destruction Imperial Ascension 12	Posted - 2011.11.12 02:30:00 - [7] - Quote 'ship maintenance bay' is what that little hold is called on ships that have one, and there is a thread already that is basically this. Can't be arsed to find it, but it talks about a 'tug' that does the same thing. Where the science gets done
Jack Carrigan Order of the Shadow The Revenant Order 207	Posted - 2011.11.12 14:31:00 - [8] - Quote I suggested a similar idea here. Questions/Comments? "War is not measured in terms of who wins or loses, who is right or wrong.-á It is measured in terms of who survives."
King Rothgar Autocannons Anonymous 35	Posted - 2011.11.12 15:25:00 - [9] - Quote And here I was afraid you were going to ask for a ship with a jump drive and the ability to move 1M m3 of assembled ships. I was even formulating my condescending response before the page finished loading. What a let down. Your proposal is completely reasonable, I support it.
luvmehard Republic University Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2011.11.12 17:07:00 - [10] - Quote +1 Please support my proposal for LP relocation! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30500
Daedalus Arcova 85	Posted - 2011.11.12 19:41:00 - [11] - Quote Supported. Players are already doing this with courier contracts and freighters, which is just a pain in the ass. It's about time it was made into a proper feature. Here's an idea: Give the existing freighters a single subsystem slot, into which they can fit a 'Ship Maintenance Configuration' subsystem or something. This would basically convert their cargo bay into a ship maintenance bay which can only be accessed in station, with a small space left for regular cargo.
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 88	Posted - 2011.11.12 21:47:00 - [12] - Quote Supporting this.
DaggerV Freelancing Corp Confederation of Independent Corporations 0	Posted - 2011.11.13 04:47:00 - [13] - Quote Full support on this.. 100% (Love the 'Tow Truck' idea) - Guilty of being a 'Traveling Gypsy' myself many times over in the past few years.
Obsidiana White-Noise 14	Posted - 2011.11.13 17:48:00 - [14] - Quote The devs have have said they recognize a need for this. It was some time after rigs were introduced as small ships could carried, but not battleships. Meh... I'm feeling to lazy to find a link to the devblog today, but I know I read it.
Illadelph Justice Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 52	Posted - 2011.11.15 16:55:00 - [15] - Quote Well they're late. Bamp
Robert Caldera Caldera Trading and Investment 60	Posted - 2011.11.15 16:58:00 - [16] - Quote living in high sec should have drawbacks. Not having carriers is one of them, leave high sec if you want them.
Illadelph Justice Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion 52	Posted - 2011.11.15 17:47:00 - [17] - Quote Robert Caldera wrote: living in high sec should have drawbacks. Not having carriers is one of them, leave high sec if you want them. You miss the point entirely. Also, I haven't been allowed in high sec in over a year.

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