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Gretchen Dawntreader
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Posted - 2006.04.21 13:23:00 -
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from "across the pond!" I visited England once, lovely country, great people, and discovered I have a genuine fondness for the Monarchy. She's had a tough time with her family and the press, but I think of Elizabeth as a noble gracious lady, perhaps the last of the line. Future of the Crown seems a bit shakey, considering who might come after her.
But for today, Happy Birthday! 
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.04.21 13:34:00 -
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PBS did a thing on her last night.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.04.21 13:35:00 -
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I wish the same to her. She's an amazing person - especially in these times of media frenzies and sleeze - nothing has come close enough to even risk sticking.
I agree - the Prince of Wales is a decidedly wobbly successor, but there's hope yet in young William. ______________________
Originally by: ParMizaN i think ive done it a couple of times and nearly done it a lot.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.04.21 13:35:00 -
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Originally by: Gretchen Dawntreader perhaps the last of the line. Future of the Crown seems a bit shakey, considering who might come after her.
Not likely, Charles may abdicate early, leaving it open for a younger dynamic King.
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Dak Hakin
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Posted - 2006.04.21 14:37:00 -
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Edited by: Dak Hakin on 21/04/2006 14:36:43
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker PBS did a thing on her last night.
I did a thing on her last night too. A little birthday present from Dak  _______________________________________________ I am the devil, and I'm here to do the devils work.
Mr. Grumpy-sour-pus
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Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2006.04.21 14:49:00 -
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Laocoon
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:04:00 -
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Originally by: Laythun
Originally by: Gretchen Dawntreader perhaps the last of the line. Future of the Crown seems a bit shakey, considering who might come after her.
Not likely, Charles may abdicate early, leaving it open for a younger dynamic King.
We can hope 
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Jon Hawkes
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:26:00 -
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Well, I don't recall voting for her...
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Weebear
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Posted - 2006.04.21 15:57:00 -
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Originally by: Jon Hawkes Well, I don't recall voting for her...
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Graelyn
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:08:00 -
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You don't vote for Queens.
Watery tarts choose by throwing swords at you.
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Ebedar
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:09:00 -
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Originally by: Graelyn You don't vote for Queens.
Watery tarts choose by throwing swords at you.
Mmmm moistened bint...
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:40:00 -
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Originally by: Ebedar
Originally by: Graelyn You don't vote for Queens.
Watery tarts choose by throwing swords at you.
Mmmm moistened bint...
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Originally by: ParMizaN i think ive done it a couple of times and nearly done it a lot.
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.04.21 16:58:00 -
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I was going to make a long winded post about how much I despise our Royal family, detailing how they do NAFF ALL for any of us and sponge of our taxes...
...but frankly, I can't be arsed.
So, IMO they suck.
Nuff said.
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:03:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
...and sponge of our taxes...
Nope. We sponge off them. The amount they get from the Civil List isn't even a thousandth of the income from the lands they gave to the government in exchange. ________________________________________________
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Vladimir Ilych
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:05:00 -
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i came very close to calling my char
Oliver Cromwell
I would like a republic as well. I recall our cousins across the pond kicking us out to gain one in fact..
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Ebedar
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:10:00 -
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Originally by: Raven Aure
Originally by: Ebedar
Originally by: Graelyn You don't vote for Queens.
Watery tarts choose by throwing swords at you.
Mmmm moistened bint...
 
Moistened bint
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Vincent Rainbow
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:11:00 -
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Harry should be the next king.
He'd last about 20 seconds, but it would be funny.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:14:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I was going to make a long winded post about how much I despise our Royal family, detailing how they do NAFF ALL for any of us and sponge of our taxes...
...but frankly, I can't be arsed.
So, IMO they suck.
Nuff said.
they make us money, and the country needs a figure head, who should we replace them with?
I post on the forums for MaxSuicide that makes me cool?
Originally by: Dark Shikari Dragonball Z> all other anime
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Vladimir Ilych
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:16:00 -
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someone we voted for...
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Nato Xemus
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:32:00 -
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hey screw her its my birthday XD shes had eightie odd years all i want is the spotlight for one day but sadly untill she passes or i somehow manage to overthrow her it wont happen
flame away
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Nato Xemus
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Posted - 2006.04.21 17:34:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
I was going to make a long winded post about how much I despise our Royal family, detailing how they do NAFF ALL for any of us and sponge of our taxes...
...but frankly, I can't be arsed.
So, IMO they suck.
Nuff said.
verone all i have to say is how true
me <3 verone i vote him for king!
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Verone
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Posted - 2006.04.21 18:15:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Verone
I was going to make a long winded post about how much I despise our Royal family, detailing how they do NAFF ALL for any of us and sponge of our taxes...
...but frankly, I can't be arsed.
So, IMO they suck.
Nuff said.
they make us money, and the country needs a figure head, who should we replace them with?
TBH, having the frigging chuckle brothers as figureheads for the country would stand us in a better light that having some demented old bint with a dodgy accent representing us.
Look at the Royal family :
Philip - A Notorious Racist Elizabeth - Doesn't know her arse from her elbow Charles - Halfwit who went to Eton Harry - Drunken racist idiot (lovely fancy dress mate) William - The only one with half a brain
These are the people who you think are good to represent us?
lol... don't run for MP, please. 
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Weebear
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vladimir Ilych someone we voted for...
Talk sense, it's the British public we are talking about here. It would end up some sort of Pop Idol TV programme where Jordan ends up queen of the country. |

Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:27:00 -
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ok im a bit rusty on this but isnt the Queen more of a figurehead today, last i knew Blair was running england. or does she still have say in what goes on.
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Weebear
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:32:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker ok im a bit rusty on this but isnt the Queen more of a figurehead today, last i knew Blair was running england. or does she still have say in what goes on.
he is more of a figurehead. The Country is run by the Government, but she has final say over things, although she can't really refuse anything that is put before her. |

Laocoon
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:36:00 -
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The queen just speaks poshly and eats corgies.
She's like your long-distance famous granny who never calls, that's all.
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Vincent Rainbow
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker ok im a bit rusty on this but isnt the Queen more of a figurehead today, last i knew Blair was running england. or does she still have say in what goes on.
he is more of a figurehead. The Country is run by the Government, but she has final say over things, although she can't really refuse anything that is put before her.
Last time I checked the country was run by Tesco, Lloyds Bank, Proctor & Gamble and Prudential.
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Lord Slater
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Posted - 2006.04.21 19:51:00 -
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One of the powers the queen still has is the power to abolish ower goverment and take direct controll all she has to do is command it
Doubt it will ever happen but she can do it.
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Raven Aure
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Posted - 2006.04.21 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Lord Slater One of the powers the queen still has is the power to abolish ower goverment and take direct controll all she has to do is command it
Doubt it will ever happen but she can do it.
In theory. In practice, that power is only useful should a Government try to subvert our democracy - say by passing an Act that abolishes general elections and leaves themselves in power permanently. The Queen (or King) could refuse to sign it, and dissolve Parliament forcing an immediate general election, against the Government's wishes.
For anything short of that, the monarch refusing to sign a bill passed by Parliament would lead to an abdication in very short order.
Well they're trying to pass a bill that until recently would have allowed them to do most of the above. ______________________
Originally by: ParMizaN i think ive done it a couple of times and nearly done it a lot.
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Vincent Rainbow
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Posted - 2006.04.21 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Weebear
Originally by: Vladimir Ilych someone we voted for...
Talk sense, it's the British public we are talking about here. It would end up some sort of Pop Idol TV programme where Jordan ends up queen of the country.
LOL
Queen Chantelle I
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Nato Xemus
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Posted - 2006.04.21 20:56:00 -
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Edited by: Nato Xemus on 21/04/2006 20:56:13 THATS IT this damn queen has ruined my birthday im cooking her corgies personly screw the royal family what real use have they got
Edit: Cept for maybe a cheap laugh
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ToxicFire
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:12:00 -
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gotta rember though some may scoff at the queen and say they leech off the tax payers... she and charles actually do pay tax voluntarily, and the royal family has done a vast ammount of charity work over the years, not to mention been ambassidors to a multitude of nations, would you like to spend hours with people like tony blair sucking up to you?
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Gretchen Dawntreader
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:41:00 -
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She's the living, breathing embodiment of the noble history of Britannia. Just wish her happy birthday you rabble ;)
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Nato Xemus
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Posted - 2006.04.22 01:38:00 -
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Originally by: ToxicFire gotta rember though some may scoff at the queen and say they leech off the tax payers... she and charles actually do pay tax voluntarily, and the royal family has done a vast ammount of charity work over the years, not to mention been ambassidors to a multitude of nations, would you like to spend hours with people like tony blair sucking up to you?
id love to meet tony blair...cops would never let me near him i think we all know what he would get
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Kyozoku
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Posted - 2006.04.22 03:42:00 -
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Originally by: Verone
TBH, having the frigging chuckle brothers as figureheads for the country would stand us in a better light that having some demented old bint with a dodgy accent representing us.
CHUCKLE BROTHERS MONARCHY RIGHT NOW OMFG
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Archilies
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:24:00 -
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Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker ok im a bit rusty on this but isnt the Queen more of a figurehead today, last i knew Blair was running england. or does she still have say in what goes on.
The prime minister of the country is good old tony blair, like the president of the US. But the crown (the queen) is a kinda figurehead of the country. While most of her powers have diminished, she's still has an important role in the country. Most things are down in the crown's name (where as long long time ago, in a galaxy far far away the king/queen ruled absolute). Powers such as declaring war, making treaties, the employment of the cicivl service is done in the name of the crown.
However, a but, and a big butt, the queen still has the responsbility of
1) making sure that there is a functioning goverment, as the queen has lived through liveds of labour/converative rule.
2) when election time comes, it's the prime minister who has to ask her to close down parliament.
3) if the moment came where neither political party won the majority vote, it would be for the queen to decide and ask 1 party to make a working goverment.
In theory she could dimiss a goverment, but in practical terms, it would be unlikely,
oh and she also give's knighthoods, of which i have 1
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Archilies
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:29:00 -
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Originally by: Baldour Ngarr
Originally by: Lord Slater One of the powers the queen still has is the power to abolish ower goverment and take direct controll all she has to do is command it
Doubt it will ever happen but she can do it.
In theory. In practice, that power is only useful should a Government try to subvert our democracy - say by passing an Act that abolishes general elections and leaves themselves in power permanently. The Queen (or King) could refuse to sign it, and dissolve Parliament forcing an immediate general election, against the Government's wishes.
For anything short of that, the monarch refusing to sign a bill passed by Parliament would lead to an abdication in very short order.
I don't think that would happen. Royal Assent to bills is ALWAYS given .She doesnt actually do it herself, it's done for her under the perogative. But If parliament did pass the bill, then refusing to give assent would be going aginst the public's wishes, as they have a mandate to do so.
There could always be a revoloution

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Kalahari Wayrest
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:35:00 -
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Quote: the noble history of Britannia
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:17:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 22/04/2006 16:20:19
Originally by: Verone
Charles - Halfwit who went to Eton
I think you'll find that he went to Gordonstoun, not Eton.
Anyway, whilst the current system is far from perfect, the argument against a republic can be summed up in two words.
I can't tell you what they are, as political duscussion is frowned upon although the first one rhymes with dent, and the second one rhymes with flair.
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Rodj Blake
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Posted - 2006.04.22 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Nato Xemus Edited by: Nato Xemus on 21/04/2006 20:56:13 THATS IT this damn queen has ruined my birthday im cooking her corgies personly screw the royal family what real use have they got
Edit: Cept for maybe a cheap laugh
On the subject of corgis, the Queen was given her first during the height of rationing in World War II.
They told her that it was a chicken.
She said that it was delicious.
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