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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:01:00 -
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Pretty gruesome at times but a very good film i thought. The plot was a bit hard to follow at times but if you had played the silent hill games it was evry cool.
Anybody else seen this?
And as my last thought; Pyramidhead.. OMG cool
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:04:00 -
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nope, looks cool
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Weeman
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:06:00 -
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Does it have more or less fog than the games? CBA with a film that is just 95% fog i have better things to do with my time
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Del ReyII
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:24:00 -
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Havn't seen it yet,looking forward to it though.
I hope it turns out better than some of the other game-turn movie conversions... (Alone in the Dark, Doom 3, Street Fighter  , etc)
The ads look good though
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:40:00 -
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Watched it tonight, not exactly gory but very brutal in places and a superb film. If you've played the games you'll really enjoy it, if you are new to Silent hill it may be a little confusing but will still be a very good show.
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ParMizaN
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Posted - 2006.04.21 22:41:00 -
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Originally by: Weeman
Does it have more or less fog than the games? CBA with a film that is just 95% fog i have better things to do with my time
Err, the fog is an atmospheric thing but doesnt feature tooo much
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Coconut Joe
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Posted - 2006.04.21 23:17:00 -
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Great film. A hollywood horror movie with a really great storyline. Amzeing.
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FFGR
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Posted - 2006.04.21 23:29:00 -
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Good to hear.
Most movies made out of games that I have seen suck beyond dreaming ... I wouldn't be watching it as I was thinking of it as just another stupid movie made from the hype of a game
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Nato Xemus
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Posted - 2006.04.22 02:12:00 -
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ok here plenty of people saying all game movies suck but you cant say that bout FF VII Advent Children that movie PWNED
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Tulia
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Posted - 2006.04.22 03:02:00 -
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The game lived up to the series, in my opinion. As with all movie adaptations the storyline was changed somewhat, but it featured most of the core elements that silent hill is known for.
The camera work, transitions to the darkness, and little extras made it stand out above the rest.
Pyramid head also happens to kick tremendous heaploads of ass, and also take names.
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Xander Deravlo
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Posted - 2006.04.22 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Coconut Joe
Great film. A hollywood horror movie with a really great storyline.
Indeed. Best game-movie transition I have seen. This is not a cheap-ass "horror slash and die" movie. Its not even a "movie" at all; its a horror story with a rich plot, and some of the most descriptive and graphic scenes I've ever seen. It's just awsome.
It pwns. PWNS.
also, PYRAMID HEAD 4TW!!!
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Tiridus
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Posted - 2006.04.22 08:54:00 -
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damn you people i've been waiting for this film since i heard about it and i have to wait til friday to see it...
Pyramid head will always rock! The janitor looks interesting...
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Brastagi
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Posted - 2006.04.22 09:03:00 -
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Edited by: Brastagi on 22/04/2006 09:05:10
I'm waiting to see this movie also. The gray child looks pleasantly well. After watching some of the trailer it's good they use the game's aspect. Going to see it when it come out here.
Edit: Baah, the critics in rottentomatoes.com made it look bad. 
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FFGR
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Posted - 2006.04.22 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Nato Xemus
ok here plenty of people saying all game movies suck but you cant say that bout FF VII Advent Children that movie PWNED
It wasn't made in US, taken from a game in Japan, that's why 
There are some nice game movies, but most of them are for the bucket.
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Weeman
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: ParMizaN
Originally by: Weeman
Does it have more or less fog than the games? CBA with a film that is just 95% fog i have better things to do with my time
Err, the fog is an atmospheric thing but doesnt feature tooo much
There was so much fog in the games because the draw distance was **** :P
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Wild Rho
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Posted - 2006.04.22 12:18:00 -
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Actually the constant fog in Silent hill does have a significance in the games and the movie. I'm not gonna say what it is since it may spoil the movie for some but if you spend a few mins surfing the interweb you can find out some nice bits of info.
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Solloeb
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Posted - 2006.04.22 13:36:00 -
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Its got to do with the plot enough said
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Tiridus
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Posted - 2006.04.22 14:11:00 -
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In the film its plot, in the game it was to scare the pants off you... like the beheaded screaming mannequin...
And i was wrong, it is out here, i thought it was next week... going to see it tomorrow...
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seeyouauntie
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Posted - 2006.04.22 19:49:00 -
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I was on the set of that movie. They filmed it downtown in the city was living in. I went down one night and tried to steal some props/scenery/whatever, but it was all chained up. 
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.22 20:00:00 -
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Originally by: Nato Xemus
ok here plenty of people saying all game movies suck but you cant say that bout FF VII Advent Children that movie PWNED
and the two resi apoc movies, and doom
about doom:yea its dosent have the same story line, but it was a cool action movie
I post on the forums for MaxSuicide that makes me cool?
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.22 20:40:00 -
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Originally by: Del ReyII
Havn't seen it yet,looking forward to it though.
I hope it turns out better than some of the other game-turn movie conversions... (Alone in the Dark, Doom 3, Street Fighter , etc)
Don't forget Tomb Raider, and Final Fantasy, ganted Sqauresoft bought that movie and renamed it, and were punished for it with bankruptcy.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.22 20:41:00 -
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Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Del ReyII
Havn't seen it yet,looking forward to it though.
I hope it turns out better than some of the other game-turn movie conversions... (Alone in the Dark, Doom 3, Street Fighter , etc)
Don't forget Tomb Raider, and Final Fantasy, ganted Sqauresoft bought that movie and renamed it, and were punished for it with bankruptcy.
Squaresoft went bankrupt?
I post on the forums for MaxSuicide that makes me cool?
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Benedictus Setaro
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Posted - 2006.04.22 20:42:00 -
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Edited by: Benedictus Setaro on 22/04/2006 20:44:19
Pyramid Head kicked so much ass in the most brutal manner, especially what he did to that young woman
Shame he's in it for such a short time, but then the film is based on Silent Hill 1 and Pyramid Head was the badass from Silent Hill 2 so it kind of makes sense.
Either way, the final scene in the Church was a barb-wire fetishists dream come true. That ruled.
***Edit: to the above poster, Sqauresoft Films, a company set up to make FF: The Spirits Within died because the film failed, but not Sqaure itself***
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.22 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Nato Xemus
ok here plenty of people saying all game movies suck but you cant say that bout FF VII Advent Children that movie PWNED
It was great, but the bad thing is that it was great for the same reasons Episode 3 was great:
So much action that it made up for a rather.. odd story and any plotholes that showed up.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.04.22 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Del ReyII
Havn't seen it yet,looking forward to it though.
I hope it turns out better than some of the other game-turn movie conversions... (Alone in the Dark, Doom 3, Street Fighter , etc)
Don't forget Tomb Raider, and Final Fantasy, ganted Sqauresoft bought that movie and renamed it, and were punished for it with bankruptcy.
Squaresoft went bankrupt?
Hence the Enix merger to form SquareEnix.
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Spartan239
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Posted - 2006.04.22 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Lucian Alucard
Originally by: Spartan239
Originally by: Malthros Zenobia
Originally by: Del ReyII
Havn't seen it yet,looking forward to it though.
I hope it turns out better than some of the other game-turn movie conversions... (Alone in the Dark, Doom 3, Street Fighter , etc)
Don't forget Tomb Raider, and Final Fantasy, ganted Sqauresoft bought that movie and renamed it, and were punished for it with bankruptcy.
Squaresoft went bankrupt?
Hence the Enix merger to form SquareEnix.
ok, dont keep up with the status of games companies very much
I post on the forums for MaxSuicide that makes me cool?
Originally by: Dark Shikari
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.23 02:57:00 -
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It sucked. Pyramid head was pretty f-n cool though, but the movie for the most part sucked...
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Monty Burns
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Posted - 2006.04.23 18:30:00 -
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did i watch a diferent film to most of you?
The plot was not hard to follow, it was easy to work out what was happening after about half way and the ending was ... well .... pants with no real twist.
I would rather have my teeth pulled than be forced to watch this again.
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fairimear
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:53:00 -
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people expet to much of these film conversions.
It's a good movie of it's type. i can't say there are any real uber horror/action/monster films these days.
Doom was a nice film for what it was 10x better than avp yet still a rip of alien/aliens.
Red Pyrimid is cool but kinda like WTF is it doing there, along with the nurses.
both being rather specific to the SH2 story.
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Benedictus Setaro
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:31:00 -
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Silent Hill 1 has both evil Doctors and Nurses in it.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:20:00 -
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/me confused about the movie.
So did they all died and went to limbo at the start of the Tour de Silent Hill?
Somebody please explain or share any thought?
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Tulia
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Posted - 2006.04.24 03:44:00 -
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My take on it is that they died upon the crash (both of them had head injuries) and were stuck in purgatory. There are three levels of silent hill: real world, foggy world (purgatory) and otherworld. (hell)
If you didn't play the game chances are you will not get nearly as much out of the movie as those who have. Not because the plot is complex, but because there are so many other stories and branch-offs from the silent hill series that you can look back on and combine.
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Lord Aradon
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Posted - 2006.04.24 10:11:00 -
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Originally by: Tulia
My take on it is that they died upon the crash (both of them had head injuries) and were stuck in purgatory. There are three levels of silent hill: real world, foggy world (purgatory) and otherworld. (hell)
If you didn't play the game chances are you will not get nearly as much out of the movie as those who have. Not because the plot is complex, but because there are so many other stories and branch-offs from the silent hill series that you can look back on and combine.
Im with you on this one, its the only way many things in the film can be explained.
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Sara Finn
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Posted - 2006.04.24 11:21:00 -
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mmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Tanya Allen 
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GouldFish
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Posted - 2006.04.24 11:48:00 -
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dispite not playing any of the games I quite enjoyed it and had no problem following the story.
Oh and I came to the same conclusion that the were dead as well.
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Lluthiunne Atalaron
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Posted - 2006.04.24 12:23:00 -
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***spoilers below***
I followed and understood the story. I was a Silent Hill fan - i particulary liked the starting sequences and how the matched the begining of the game - identically even the camera angles - right up to the babies chasing her - all exactly the same.
However theres one part of the story i cant get to fit. Plot hole or my own stupidity i dont know.
The girl died was it 20/30 years ago and the cop carried her out burning his hands in the process. Yet he appears the same age??? and throughout the story it states that the town burned down and everyone inside the church etc died. Yet i'am sure the place was fine when the cop came in to get her ???
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Benedictus Setaro
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Posted - 2006.04.24 15:48:00 -
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In the Silent Hill game, the first one which the film is mostly based on, has a different end to the movie. In the game, Harry (he is turned into the mother, Rose, for the film) the father searching for his daughter is forced to kill her at the end when she turns into a demon. On death though, the demon morphs into a baby, exactly like Harry adopted, and takes the baby and runs through a portal, which deposits him on the road where he crashed, and he lives happily ever after with his born-again daughter.
Well until Silent Hill 3 anyway, which continues the story from Silent Hill 1. That game is brutal.
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Tulia
My take on it is that they died upon the crash (both of them had head injuries)
And they both got up and walked away from the car... same with the cop... Nobody was in their vehicles... strange thing for dead bodies to do... you know, get up and walk away...
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 24/04/2006 19:08:48
Originally by: Kurren
Originally by: Tulia
My take on it is that they died upon the crash (both of them had head injuries)
And they both got up and walked away from the car... same with the cop... Nobody was in their vehicles... strange thing for dead bodies to do... you know, get up and walk away...
So how did Rose call her husband and told him that she was visiting the school?
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Benedictus Setaro
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Posted - 2006.04.24 19:55:00 -
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In Silent Hill theres 3 'dimensions'. Our world, the 'fog' (thought it doesn't always have to be foggy) world and then the hellish looking one. You'll only ever get out of the latter 2 dimensions once you solve the original reason you ended up there.
And only then if it lets you.
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Posted - 2006.04.24 23:53:00 -
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Wow, a game film that isn't bad? And Silent Hill!? You're getting me excited here. I've been a fan of the series since the first game was released on PS in 1999. My standards are usually rather high though so I won't get my hopes up yet, but I gotta see it soonÖ now!
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Posted - 2006.04.25 01:50:00 -
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I have to say this was one of the most amazing films I've seen so far. Especially a game-to-film conversion. It was quite gory for a 15 certificate but that's one of he reason it was so great. I have to get the games now and complete them.
If you haven't seen then I recommend you do. Especially if you are a fan of the games, but even if you aren't.
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Th'Orn
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Posted - 2006.04.25 02:04:00 -
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I love the part where that chick gets her skin ripped off.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 03:00:00 -
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I couldn't really stand it. It was good for a Video Game movie, but what do we really have to expect for that? Uwe Boll? Resident Evil Apocalypse? The writing was sub par, I mean "Look at me I'm burning!", the hell? There were a couple of things that didn't make sense, even for someone who played the game. Why did the cop not age? Why couldn't they find Rose's Jeep?
Whats really impressive is that they managed to screw up the metaphor with Pyramid Head, but very little else. It's a Rape/Punishment Avatar, but they managed to lose that in pointless violence. It only punishes one person that deserves it over the course of the movie, and there's no utilization of it at the final punishment scene. The zombie nurses were used excessively, but the underlying theme of sexuality got through. The babies were bad, but that has more to do with bad CG and they used too many of them.
Overall, it was better than most Video Game movies, but again, that's not terribly difficult. It seems that they tried to make the movie close to the game, but didn't pay any attention to the underlying themes and metaphors, and just piled the elements on top of eachother, which is easy enough to see with the 40 or so zombie nurses and the 80 or so burning babies
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Coconut Joe
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Posted - 2006.04.25 06:56:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrok
I couldn't really stand it. It was good for a Video Game movie, but what do we really have to expect for that? Uwe Boll? Resident Evil Apocalypse? The writing was sub par, I mean "Look at me I'm burning!", the hell? There were a couple of things that didn't make sense, even for someone who played the game. Why did the cop not age? Why couldn't they find Rose's Jeep?
Whats really impressive is that they managed to screw up the metaphor with Pyramid Head, but very little else. It's a Rape/Punishment Avatar, but they managed to lose that in pointless violence. It only punishes one person that deserves it over the course of the movie, and there's no utilization of it at the final punishment scene. The zombie nurses were used excessively, but the underlying theme of sexuality got through. The babies were bad, but that has more to do with bad CG and they used too many of them.
Overall, it was better than most Video Game movies, but again, that's not terribly difficult. It seems that they tried to make the movie close to the game, but didn't pay any attention to the underlying themes and metaphors, and just piled the elements on top of eachother, which is easy enough to see with the 40 or so zombie nurses and the 80 or so burning babies
Since Pyramid head was actualy the metaphore of the sexual frustration of the Dad not haveing sex with his wife for years, I think I can let that one slide.
The nurses were in the movie for less than 3 mintues, they were not over used.
The only monsters in the movie that were made of CGI were the little beetles that ran around with pyramid head. Those babies with bad CG... didn't use CGI, apart from when they disolved.
The cop did not age because it's a different cop.
'Look at me, I'm burning' was the demon telling rose what happened to the little girl, and leading her onwards to the hospital.
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Lluthiunne Atalaron
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Posted - 2006.04.25 08:50:00 -
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It wasn't a different cop - Remember his hands were burnt trying to get her off the sign.
He didnt age - i can let that pass if it is just bad makeup whatever, but after the coals were knocked over a fire was apparently started that killed most of the towns people. Yet when the cop came and got the girl the town was fine???
Also they did find her car. When Sean Bean comes to the bridge the cop tells the husband that they found her car just over the bridge.
I suppose theres an argument to were on earth are there bodies?
My previous question remains unanswered though, about the cop and the town fire?
Also can someone quickly fill me in on the Silent Hill 3 plot.
p.s. Pyramid head was a metaphor for the guy in SH2 sexual tension. The whole of SH2 was full of stuff like that.
Pyramid head was just in there cos fans probably wanted to see him etc. hes pretty iconic now.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 10:32:00 -
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Edited by: Benedictus Setaro on 25/04/2006 10:34:00
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THis is truly bare bones plot-wise, but anyway Silent Hill 3 is all about a 15/16ish old girl called Heather who goes to the shopping mall one day for her father (possibly in Brahams the town next to silent hill, I can't remember), falls asleep in a diner and dreams of being in the Silent Hill amusemant park.
After that nightmare's over, she ends up being sucked into a hellish Silent Hillified version of the Mall, and then every place along the route home, like the subway etc. She meets a few freaky personages onlong the way, who are there to spout plot exposition. Once she finnaly arrives home, we see her father, Harry Mason +15 years, murdered in his chair. So Heather is actually the reincarnated Cheryl we saw in Harry's arms at the end of SH1. Not that she knew anything about that of course.
A far better summary of the plot can be found
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Though be warned this is the ultra-spoil.
Oh yeah, Silent Hill 3 also tells us the official canon ending of Silent Hill 1 was the 'Good -' ending: Harry killed Cybil Bennett.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 14:34:00 -
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Originally by: Coconut Joe
The nurses were in the movie for less than 3 mintues, they were not over used.
Yeah they were. There was absolutely no reason to use as many of them as they did. Part of what made them scary in the game that the most you would ever go up against was three, I think
Originally by: Coconut Joe
The only monsters in the movie that were made of CGI were the little beetles that ran around with pyramid head. Those babies with bad CG... didn't use CGI, apart from when they disolved.
I've heard this rumor, but I've yet to see anything about it thats remotely official, so I dunno. They LOOKED like they were bad CGI
Originally by: Coconut Joe
'Look at me, I'm burning' was the demon telling rose what happened to the little girl, and leading her onwards to the hospital.
That doesn't mean it isn't a terrible line, the rest of the movie had it to, when Rose busts into the church at the end "It's going to be okay, baby" had the audience in hysterics
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Posted - 2006.04.25 14:51:00 -
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Apparently so. All were actors and were likely given a series of post effects. As for the babies i thought they were brilliant.
I know what you are taking about but i dont think its bad CGI. It felt sort of right regardless of how it looked.
My only fault with the movie was that it did not play much of the excellent Silent Hill soundtrack. When the title screen appeared and that weird hypnotic guitar segment kicked in shivers ran down my back and a smile spread across my face.
good movie and when you compare it to other horrors that have been released lately 'the dark' *shudder*
I have to say it stands head and shoulders above them.
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Tulia
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Posted - 2006.04.25 15:13:00 -
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Edited by: Tulia on 25/04/2006 15:16:26
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My only fault with the movie was that it did not play much of the excellent Silent Hill soundtrack. When the title screen appeared and that weird hypnotic guitar segment kicked in shivers ran down my back and a smile spread across my face.
Every song in the movie was from the game series. I have the soundtracks for silent hill 1,2,3 and 4, and he took a few from each game. "letter from the lost days" was from silent hill 3, playing in the car as they drove to silent hill. "Wounded warsong" was from silent hill 4 and I believe it was run during the grey child sequence.
As for the movie not being 'scary enough' I never believed that silent hill was meant to be scary. Instead it is meant to be uncomfortable and borderline disturbing; sometimes offensive. The entire series tells sad and depressing stories, the monsters are metaphors for them and the entire world is a dream to force it upon the player.
But yes, the "I'm burning!" part was very weak. That, and the opening sequence. The rest of the movie I liked.
Edit: Pyramid head can be used in the movie because of what he actually is. In SH2 he was a manifestation of james' guilt, but in the actual town of silent hill he was one of the executioners. They wore pointed red cloaks to cover their faces, and their cloaks were worn in homage of the angel valtiel.
So in silent hill, he exists solely to punish, which he did rather well... what with the skin ripping and all. 
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Posted - 2006.04.25 15:46:00 -
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What the hell happened to Harry? A chicks plays his role? C'MON!
But from the trailer, I liked how CGI looked like. Not quite realistic and that makes it cool
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Metatron Celestia
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Posted - 2006.04.25 15:57:00 -
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I find it amazing that so many people thought the movie was horrible because instead of spoonfeeding everything to them, the movie left the viewers to think about what happened and piece together the symbolism for themselve.
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Pyrok
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Posted - 2006.04.25 16:45:00 -
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Originally by: Metatron Celestia
I find it amazing that so many people thought the movie was horrible because instead of spoonfeeding everything to them, the movie left the viewers to think about what happened and piece together the symbolism for themselve.
I'm sorry, what? Were you not paying attention at the end where they take ten minutes to explain the plot in detail for no real reason?
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Metatron Celestia
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:53:00 -
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Edited by: Metatron Celestia on 25/04/2006 18:55:54
Edited by: Metatron Celestia on 25/04/2006 18:54:14
No no no, I was talking about the movie critics and people I've met online on forums (not this one apparently) whom would bash the movie because they complained it made no sense, because they expected the movie itself to tell everything for them.
Same with the people at the theaters I watched it at, literally everyone there said the movie sucked at the end and it made no sense.
On the other hand, me and my friends spent about 10 minutes discussing the movie and figured everything out (from our views anyways), and thought the movie was great.
Silent Hill had layers upon layers of symbolism.
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Kurren
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Posted - 2006.04.25 18:57:00 -
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Originally by: Pyrok
Originally by: Coconut Joe
The nurses were in the movie for less than 3 mintues, they were not over used.
Yeah they were. There was absolutely no reason to use as many of them as they did. Part of what made them scary in the game that the most you would ever go up against was three, I think
Originally by: Coconut Joe
The only monsters in the movie that were made of CGI were the little beetles that ran around with pyramid head. Those babies with bad CG... didn't use CGI, apart from when they disolved.
I've heard this rumor, but I've yet to see anything about it thats remotely official, so I dunno. They LOOKED like they were bad CGI
Originally by: Coconut Joe
'Look at me, I'm burning' was the demon telling rose what happened to the little girl, and leading her onwards to the hospital.
That doesn't mean it isn't a terrible line, the rest of the movie had it to, when Rose busts into the church at the end "It's going to be okay, baby" had the audience in hysterics
What about the way she just walks through this crowd of people that, minutes before, beat the crap out of a cop and then burned her! That had me laughing.
And, maybe somebody can explain this to me... if the Demon and its possesor wanted a life away from terrible things for the daughter... why did they try to make her fall off a cliff?
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Metatron Celestia
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Posted - 2006.04.25 19:00:00 -
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My taking of it:
The way I see it, the Silent Hill that Rose was in, was created by Alessa. In essence, they were "inside" Alessa's world the entire time.
Whenever Dark Silent Hill struck, Alessa is in control, and the monsters are manifestations of her hatred towards those whom abused her in the past.
The Demon Children where the school kids whom tormented her. The Janitor was the one whom raped her. Lisa (the nurse in red), represented the one person whom cared for her.
Notice, how the demons would kill everyone, yet every time Rose was about to get killed by the demons, that all the demons would die. This would indicate that Alessa was in full control of Dark Silent Hill, and was manipulating Rose so she can fullfill her task.
What was her task?
Alessa really was a demon, and the people were under protection by their collective faith and will, thus making the Church the one place where Alessa's influence could not reach.
Everything was planned out by Alessa from the beginning. The split between Alessa's evil/good self in the form of Alessa/Sharon, Sharon's adoption, her sleepwalking and Alessa's summoning her to Silent Hill. All of it was ment to use Rose as a vessel to carry herself inside the Church, allowing her to invade and bypass the barrier, and enact her revenge.
And why couldn't her husband see her?
Alessa and Sharon were the manifestations of the true Alessa, one pure good, and one pure evil. In the end, Alessa entered Sharon's body, and became whole once again.
Rose never did make it out of the reality created by Alessa. She was still inside Alessa's universe. The reason why Silent Hill was cut off with an impassable pit, was because Alessa have no knowledge outside Silent Hill, and would not be able to recreate it. The reason why Rose appeared to be able to leave the area of Silent Hill and return to her home, was because Alessa was creating everything via Sharon's memories.
Cybil could have been brought in to Silent Hill by Alessa as a way of protecting Rose from the Cultists during the times where she is not in full control.
Either that, or Cybil was brought in accidently, when Alessa brought Rose into Silent Hill. Notice how Cybil's back was a way back from Rose's car, she probably got sucked into Silent Hill the same time as Rose did.
The Nurses were Alessa's guardians, the representations of those whom saved Alessa's life. Lisa (the nurse in red), was special. Lisa was the one whom took care of Alessa ever since she was hospitalized, and was the one person whom she trusted enough to take care of her, to be her peresonal protector. This was why Lisa was the only Nurse whom was unique amongst them, while the other Nurses' faces were covered; Alessa never met them.
The Nurses reacted negatively to light, was because the light represented the Cultists' faith. When Rose turned off the flashlight, it represented her abandoning of faith in the Cultists, and was then finally deemed worthy to learn the truth.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 19:01:00 -
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The monsters were manifestations of Alessa's views on others:
Demon Children: The school kids whom tormented her.
Bile Demon: The adults whom spread filth and lies about her.
Janitor: Colins, the Janitor whom raped her.
Nurses: The ones whom protected Alessa. Served as her guardians protecting the passage leading to the room of the real Alessa. Alessa never actually met them, hence their faces were all covered.
Lisa (Red Nurse): The Nurse whom cared for and personally took care of Alessa, whom was trusted enough to continue to personally protect Alessa later on. Was perhaps the only one of the monsters whom was sentient, as she looked relieved that Alessa would at long last, finally have her revenge.
Pyramid Head: Christabella, a fanatic whom would kill everything she does not understand. The one whom leads the bugs.
Bugs: The Church Followers, blindly following Christabella/Pyramid Head without thinking for themselves. Blindly destroys everything but their own.
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Pyrok
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Posted - 2006.04.25 19:07:00 -
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Originally by: Metatron Celestia
The monsters were manifestations of Alessa's views on others:
Pyramid Head: Christabella, a fanatic whom would kill everything she does not understand. The one whom leads the bugs.
Pyramid head is an avatar of punishment and violence, not a personal metaphor. It's flagrant disregard for those on it's "Side" it pretty obvious, and the only person it kills is the girl who tried to kill Alessa's mother.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Metatron Celestia
The monsters were manifestations of Alessa's views on others:
Demon Children: The school kids whom tormented her.
Bile Demon: The adults whom spread filth and lies about her.
Janitor: Colins, the Janitor whom raped her.
Nurses: The ones whom protected Alessa. Served as her guardians protecting the passage leading to the room of the real Alessa. Alessa never actually met them, hence their faces were all covered.
Lisa (Red Nurse): The Nurse whom cared for and personally took care of Alessa, whom was trusted enough to continue to personally protect Alessa later on. Was perhaps the only one of the monsters whom was sentient, as she looked relieved that Alessa would at long last, finally have her revenge.
Pyramid Head: Christabella, a fanatic whom would kill everything she does not understand. The one whom leads the bugs.
Bugs: The Church Followers, blindly following Christabella/Pyramid Head without thinking for themselves. Blindly destroys everything but their own.
You're absolutely wrong, sry to break it to you. Except on the janitor part, thats a MAYBE. Those may be your opinion, which everyone is entitled to, no matter how wrong it may be 
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Posted - 2006.04.25 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Th'Orn
Originally by: Metatron Celestia
The monsters were manifestations of Alessa's views on others:
Demon Children: The school kids whom tormented her.
Bile Demon: The adults whom spread filth and lies about her.
Janitor: Colins, the Janitor whom raped her.
Nurses: The ones whom protected Alessa. Served as her guardians protecting the passage leading to the room of the real Alessa. Alessa never actually met them, hence their faces were all covered.
Lisa (Red Nurse): The Nurse whom cared for and personally took care of Alessa, whom was trusted enough to continue to personally protect Alessa later on. Was perhaps the only one of the monsters whom was sentient, as she looked relieved that Alessa would at long last, finally have her revenge.
Pyramid Head: Christabella, a fanatic whom would kill everything she does not understand. The one whom leads the bugs.
Bugs: The Church Followers, blindly following Christabella/Pyramid Head without thinking for themselves. Blindly destroys everything but their own.
You're absolutely wrong, sry to break it to you. Except on the janitor part, thats a MAYBE. Those may be your opinion, which everyone is entitled to, no matter how wrong it may be
I love people that say stuff like this and don't explain why.
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Posted - 2006.04.25 19:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kurren
Originally by: Th'Orn
Originally by: Metatron Celestia
The monsters were manifestations of Alessa's views on others:
Demon Children: The school kids whom tormented her.
Bile Demon: The adults whom spread filth and lies about her.
Janitor: Colins, the Janitor whom raped her.
Nurses: The ones whom protected Alessa. Served as her guardians protecting the passage leading to the room of the real Alessa. Alessa never actually met them, hence their faces were all covered.
Lisa (Red Nurse): The Nurse whom cared for and personally took care of Alessa, whom was trusted enough to continue to personally protect Alessa later on. Was perhaps the only one of the monsters whom was sentient, as she looked relieved that Alessa would at long last, finally have her revenge.
Pyramid Head: Christabella, a fanatic whom would kill everything she does not understand. The one whom leads the bugs.
Bugs: The Church Followers, blindly following Christabella/Pyramid Head without thinking for themselves. Blindly destroys everything but their own.
You're absolutely wrong, sry to break it to you. Except on the janitor part, thats a MAYBE. Those may be your opinion, which everyone is entitled to, no matter how wrong it may be
I love people that say stuff like this and don't explain why.
I believe that all of those explanations Metatron gave were just his own assumptions, and I called him out on them. As I said, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, no matter how wrong it may be.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 05:46:00 -
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One thing about silent hill is many things are left completely open to interpretation.
Go ahead and try and find a Konami FAQ or even a hint as to who the 'red god' and 'yellow god' are in plain english. You won't. There is more speculation on that stuff than the kennedy assassination. There are tons of people who say that Pyramid head is the red god. There are people who say he is just an executioner, others who say he is a manifestation of guilt and punishment, and others who say he is jimmy stone. There is honestly not enough evidence to point it in any one direction. The designers give you just enough rope to hang yourself.
If you can draw a metaphor or find something symbolic in a part of silent hill, and it works for you, then it does what it was meant to do.
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Posted - 2006.04.26 09:49:00 -
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I don't really see how he is wrong. All the points he made were correct and explained the monsters etc.
He did use 'whom' alot however ;) (drop the 'm')
The one i did not agree on was pyramid head.
Pyramid head was a Silent Hill 2 creature and was a metaphor for the protagonists sexual frustration. This is well known.
He was put in this movie likely because the fans would wantto see him.
However pyramid head does have a large history. He is known as an executioner and a manifestation of strong emotions.
So it has been discussed that in Silent Hill the movie, Pyramid Head is a manifestation of the guilt the girls original mother had.
If you remember she would not tell anyone who the father was - turns out to be the cultists leaders husband. the girl was brutally tortured and her guilt brought pyramid head.
In the section of the movie outside the church she seems to summon pyramid head behind the woman. Of course she doesnt fear the darkness because her little girl wouldn't kill her.
Thats my take on it. but for the person who blindly says that the post is wrong - contribute.
State why its wrong and offer an explanation. or dont post.
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Posted - 2006.04.29 03:34:00 -
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I just saw this movie..
It is the best movie I have ever seen in my entire life..
Anyway.. Ive got lots of googling to do to figure out what in the world a lot of stuff was.. especialy the ending... that was.. the movie could not possibly have been better, they even had the best background music too.
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Xeios
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Posted - 2006.05.01 21:06:00 -
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Good film all in all, he only things that bugged me about it was the beating and burning of cybil. I have major issues with violence against women so that spoiled it a bit, seemed a lil bit unnecessary. Otherwise a good film.
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Edited by: Lord Slater on 01/05/2006 21:41:46
I loved it never played the game but guesed most of what happened by the time the infamouse line of,"Look at me im burning". As i never played any silent hill game i never guesses she was dead in limbo till the end tho.
Loved Piramid head.
Liked the armless thing spurting hot fluid. [I so want one as a pet now].
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