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Thor Ancalime
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.06 14:49:00 -
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yesterday is returned to eve, after 40mins while i was trying to get used to game again by doing missions, i tried so hard and i actually find a way to explode my paladin. this is so sad, my toon probably going to suicide if he cant compensate the money. please donate some isk to save this veteran noob. any amount is fine. thank you.
http://public-crest.eveonline.com/killmails/37283609/86fbbe9ad4eb741b30a85874b0ea08af6ad3c1c3/
2014.03.05 17:04:00
Victim: Thor Ancalime Corp: 24th Imperial Crusade Alliance: Unknown Faction: Amarr Empire Destroyed: Paladin System: Ardishapur Prime Security: 0.7 Damage Taken: 91468
Involved parties:
Name: Federation Praktor Hexeris / Gallente Federation (laid the final blow) Damage Done: 91468
Destroyed items:
Imperial Navy Xray L Tracking Speed Script Cap Recharger II Federation Navy Tracking Computer Imperial Navy Multifrequency L, Qty: 3 (Cargo) Small Tractor Beam I Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Salvager I Imperial Navy Xray L, Qty: 15 (Cargo) Cap Recharger II Armor Thermic Hardener II Imperial Navy Large Armor Repairer Imperial Navy Xray L Large Capacitor Control Circuit I Tachyon Beam Laser II Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Dropped items:
Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Heat Sink Federation Navy Stasis Webifier Tachyon Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Multifrequency L, Qty: 17 (Cargo) Imperial Navy Xray L Tachyon Beam Laser II Small Tractor Beam I Imperial Navy Xray L (Cargo) Tachyon Beam Laser II Imperial Navy Heat Sink Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane Imperial Navy Xray L
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Charlie Firpol
Noob Mercs Monkeys with Guns.
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Posted - 2014.03.06 14:53:00 -
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Well, it could-Šve been a 1200 dollar navy raven.
Or 2 |

acemastr Ocer
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
23
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:01:00 -
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'I screwed up on a mission, please give me money'
Beautiful... beautiful tears, the only way this would be better is if you'd been ganked |

Lipbite
Express Hauler
1785
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:01:00 -
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We can't: CCP persuaded us everyone around is a scammer or doesn't deserve our help. So you'll have to purchase couple GTCs from them to sell and compensate your loss. |

Notorious Fellon
Republic University Minmatar Republic
245
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:02:00 -
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So you were out for a while and 40 minutes back you jumped into a billion ISK hull you couldn't afford to replace? And you didn't bother to read up on patches and ship changes? No bastion module?
Sounds a bit careless. Sorry for your loss; a hard lesson learned. |

Remiel Pollard
Stirling Iron Society A Rather Intimidating Group of Individuals
2661
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:06:00 -
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Pwned by Gallente
GALLENTE FTW!!! You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |

Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries Solar Assault Fleet
1009
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:10:00 -
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Notorious Fellon wrote:So you were out for a while and 40 minutes back you jumped into a billion ISK hull you couldn't afford to replace? And you didn't bother to read up on patches and ship changes? No bastion module?
Indeed.
Besides, begging is still frowned upon.
Vote for Fuzzy Steve! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4236322
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Ka'Narlist
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
144
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:14:00 -
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haha |

Agondray
Avenger Mercenaries VOID Intergalactic Forces
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:17:00 -
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Like everyone else go back to a lower ship and work up, if you don't want to put in the effort than this isn't the game for you. FYI you toon can't do anything with out you to control, it doesn't go off and do mission by itself "Sarcasm is the Recourse of a weak mine" -Dr. Smith |

Bernie Nator
4U Services Inc. Upholders
989
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:17:00 -
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I, too, have lost a ship. Let us run missions together in the same corp and well make you that Isk back. |
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WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:25:00 -
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I lost a shiny ship please give me isk. How about.... No.
Stop begging like a damn peasant and go make some isk yourself like the rest of us. We're not your personal charity. |

Victor Andall
Complexes and Abaddons
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:29:00 -
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If you want a bailout for your bad decisions petition the White House.
Also inb4 no begging in the forums I just undocked for the first time and someone challenged me to a duel. Wat do?
Andall Combat Tournaments - on hiatus. Contact for more information. |

Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
2839
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:36:00 -
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Now that you're back, you may notice that GD is still about as caring and compassionate as it ever was. |

Yarda Black
Epidemic. Psychosomatic.
66
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:37:00 -
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Since you managed to lose a Palladin, link a KM in general discussion and beg for ISK there's only one true way of saving you.
That way is ignoring your plea and forcing you to build up knowledge about EVE in ships you can properly fly and afford to lose.
My pleasure and welcome back to EVE! |

Aralyn Cormallen
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
209
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:41:00 -
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Feel-good thread of the day! |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
486
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:44:00 -
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1- pilot is dumb to not read patchnotes after not plaing for some time 2- pilot is dumb enought to actually die in a mission (cause a corrrect fit paladin, even from before patch, would have survived) 3- pilot is dumb enought for complaining / whining about it on forum.
tldr; pilot is dumb, game punished him for being dumb, working as intended |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
4980
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:48:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote:1- pilot is dumb to not read patchnotes after not plaing for some time 2- pilot is dumb enought to actually die in a mission (cause a corrrect fit paladin, even from before patch, would have survived) 3- pilot is dumb enought for complaining / whining about it on forum. tldr; pilot is dumb, game punished him for being dumb, working as intended also, welcome back 
That's all there is to it. EVE punishes stupidity, if it didn't, it wouldn't be EVE. |

Cylus Mortz
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:52:00 -
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No.. Just no...
You losing your paladin because you didn't bother to catch up on what's new isn't worth me donating a single ISK to save your EVE. No one could save your EVE except yourself. If you had purchased a bastion module your paladin would have shrugged off all of the DPS because of the resists bonuses and the 100% rep bonus it offers.
https://zkillboard.com/detail/-13058265/
That was an even harder pill to swallow because these guys probably stalked me for a bit, found a chance and took me out with 10 destroyers (which took about 6-7 seconds). What's worse, is that ship was paid by whatever I had left from constantly running L4's and by PLEX's.. which is far worse.
I took a month off, came back, worked my way up to now having an asset base of around or over 3.5 billion (and I have a PVP alt that I support).
So here's a suggestion: man the hell up and take the loss. Get a T1 battleship, do the grind, save up, be disciplined, get another Paladin and do it right this time (fit a bastion module). As long as you don't make it a gank pinata by fiting faction/deadspace modules on it, you will never have to worry about losing it ever again, unless you're just seriously stupid.
I'm not posting to just be a **** and further assist you in deciding to biomass your character and quit EVE for good. If you take it that way, it's not my problem. Things like that don't teach if all you hear is "oh, I'm so sorry" and "oh man, that really sucks." It definitely doesn't teach you anything by having people you don't know throw ISK at you so you can replace your shiny marauder. In that case, you won't learn anything, and when you do replace it, it wouldn't mean jack squat to you. Take it or leave it, but 90% of the people who replied here, while might not be the nicest or the most compassionate, are actually trying to help. |

Pak Narhoo
Splinter Foundation
1372
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:55:00 -
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Begging is bad MK?  |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
488
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:57:00 -
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Cylus Mortz wrote:No.. Just no... You losing your paladin because you didn't bother to catch up on what's new isn't worth me donating a single ISK to save your EVE. No one could save your EVE except yourself. If you had purchased a bastion module your paladin would have shrugged off all of the DPS because of the resists bonuses and the 100% rep bonus it offers. https://zkillboard.com/detail/-13058265/That was an even harder pill to swallow because these guys probably stalked me for a bit, found a chance and took me out with 10 destroyers (which took about 6-7 seconds). What's worse, is that ship was paid by whatever I had left from constantly running L4's and by PLEX's.. which is far worse. I took a month off, came back, worked my way up to now having an asset base of around or over 3.5 billion (and I have a PVP alt that I support). So here's a suggestion: man the hell up and take the loss. Get a T1 battleship, do the grind, save up, be disciplined, get another Paladin and do it right this time (fit a bastion module). As long as you don't make it a gank pinata by fiting faction/deadspace modules on it, you will never have to worry about losing it ever again, unless you're just seriously stupid. I'm not posting to just be a **** and further assist you in deciding to biomass your character and quit EVE for good. If you take it that way, it's not my problem. Things like that don't teach if all you hear is "oh, I'm so sorry" and "oh man, that really sucks." It definitely doesn't teach you anything by having people you don't know throw ISK at you so you can replace your shiny marauder. In that case, you won't learn anything, and when you do replace it, it wouldn't mean jack squat to you. Take it or leave it, but 90% of the people who replied here, while might not be the nicest or the most compassionate, are actually trying to help. sorry but i'm glad this CNR was put out of it's misery
i mean, that's a joke fit right? right? |
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Thor Ancalime
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:58:00 -
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ok ok im sorry that i asked for isk. dont get mad please. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
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Posted - 2014.03.06 15:58:00 -
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This would have turned out differently had you put officer mods on your ship. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

seth Hendar
I love you miners
488
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:00:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:This would have turned out differently had you put officer mods on your ship. yup, we would have laughted at him too 
carebear tears, best tears |

Cylus Mortz
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:01:00 -
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seth Hendar wrote: sorry but i'm glad this CNR was put out of it's misery
i mean, that's a joke fit right? right?
Me too. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have learned how to play EVE. The reason it was fit the way it was because I didn't have the skills to fly it properly. That was the only way I learned. While I still despise Projected Damage, I appreciate what they did. Because I know a lot more than I would have otherwise. |

Ribor
Yordle Kingdom
9
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:16:00 -
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You lost a Marauder in a mission. You deserve no sympathy. |

Feyd Rautha Harkonnen
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
594
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:17:00 -
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Charlie Firpol wrote:Well, it could-Šve been a 1200 dollar navy raven.
Or 2 "Capsuleer Law #1: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose.
Capsuleer Law #2: Don't trust anyone.
Capsuleer Law #3: If in doubt, refer to the first or second laws."
Pretty much covers it. Would you like to know more? |

Cylus Mortz
Minimal Solutions Aurora Irae
1
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:22:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:
Comedy gold right there! :D |

Nimrod vanHall
Martyr's Vengence Nulli Secunda
71
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:27:00 -
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Feyd Rautha Harkonnen wrote:Charlie Firpol wrote:Well, it could-Šve been a 1200 dollar navy raven.
Or 2 "Capsuleer Law #1: Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. Capsuleer Law #2: Don't trust anyone. Capsuleer Law #3: If in doubt, refer to the first or second laws." Pretty much covers it.
the 3rd Law should be: When in doubt google it.
p.s. the 1st hit when you google "Rules in eve" states:
hese are based on Akita T's golden rules for new players, originally published on the old forums:
You consent to PvP when you click "undock". You are not safe in 1.0 security space. CONCORD is there to punish, not to protect. Get used to the idea. In most cases, the only way to be 100% safe from agression inside the game is to be docked in a station. Being cloaked in a secret safespot could work too. Never fly something (or with something in the cargo) you can't afford to lose. Yes, not even in highsec. Never grant corporation rights to stuff you can't afford to lose either. No exceptions. People offering free stuff? Probably traps. Be cautious. Free stuff usually isn't. Not even minerals you mine yourself. If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. Paranoia pays off here. Double-check everything. Scamming and unethical behaviour some would consider griefing is not only allowed, it is encouraged and rewarded by the game mechanics. Harrasment or real-life threats however aren't, and you can get a shiny ban for them. Learn the difference. If you lose stuff, it's almost always your fault. Really, only yours. More expensive stuff is not always better stuff. Slightly better stuff usually costs many times more as slightly worse stuff. Choose wisely. T2 is usually cheaper and better as best named, but harder to fit. Sometimes it's not better. Other times it's not cheaper. And occasionally, neither cheaper nor better. Showinfo and Variants->Compare are your best friends. Use it on all stuff you can. There is always heavy lag in Jita and other trade hubs. But then again, you almost always find what you might need there, and can get better prices for the stuff you want to sell fast. So, it might be worth the risk of getting stuck there. Just know you could get stuck there. Just having ISK doesn't matter all that much, it's making ISK that's important. If you bought your ISK (either "illegally" from some site, or from a valid GTC trade), expect to soon be parted with all of them. Total skillpoints count doesn't matter much either, it's level of relevant skills to the current situation that does. Yes, that does mean a 2 mil SP combat-oriented newbie could badly beat up a 60 mil SP industry-oriented veteran. Alwayscheck your clone before you undock. Always check your ship insurance before you undock. If it's a T2 ship however... not that important. There are no "solopwnmobiles" in EVE. Everything you can fly blows up if it's shot hard enough. All other things being equal (experience, skills), superior numbers more often win a fight rather than superior ship value. However, things are hardly ever equal. There is no such thing as "a fair fight" or "an unfair fight". There's only "a fight". Circumstances are irrelevant. Somebody, somewhere has better skills as you have, more experience as you have, is smarter than you, has more friends as you do and can stay online longer. Just pray he's not out to get you. Just because you can fly something doesn't mean you should. With enough skills and experience, ship size really doesn't matter all that much. If you logoff in space without a PvP timer, you're only safe after 2 minutes... and then only until you log back in. If you logoff with a PvP timer, it's at least 15 minutes. Bottom line, once a fight started, don't logoff. You'll only die anyway. If you PvP long enough, you will lose your ship. It's only a matter of where and when. Just because some character is just a few minutes old doesn't mean he's a newbie. Many people have alts. The reverse is also possible, people come back after very long breaks, and characters are sold. You could see year-old newbies around too. Skills that take less than 1 day to train are short skills. Over one week is long. You're in this game for the long haul. Don't expect to do something meaningful in the grand scheme of things in the first day of your first trial account ever.
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flakeys
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
2083
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:29:00 -
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reported for begging on the forums ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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seth Hendar
I love you miners
489
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Posted - 2014.03.06 16:34:00 -
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Cylus Mortz wrote:seth Hendar wrote: sorry but i'm glad this CNR was put out of it's misery
i mean, that's a joke fit right? right?
Me too. If it wasn't, I wouldn't have learned how to play EVE. The reason it was fit the way it was because I didn't have the skills to fly it properly. That was the only way I learned. While I still despise Projected Damage, I appreciate what they did. Because I know a lot more than I would have otherwise. EDIT: yes, it is a joke fit, and I laugh at it myself. If I don't, it just depresses me because I put at least $40 into something that went boom a couple of days later lol. Thor Ancalime wrote:ok ok im sorry that i asked for isk.  dont get mad please. Nobody's getting mad. We're just trying to push you in the right direction. Asking for ISK isn't good and it won't help your cause. Actually doing something about it will make the difference between a poor experience and a really good learning tool. Take it with a grain of salt, and ignore the "delicious tears" remarks. Believe me, people have come back from losses that will cast a long shadow over the 1.7 bil Paladin you just lost ;) If you message me in-game, I will be more than glad to help bring you up to speed on what's current in EVE. (: not only a lack of skill, but also a lack of game knowledge
1- faction weapons are not worth the cost, use meta 4 or T2 2- stacking penaltys, your low slots show 4 BCS, 3 is the max, the 4th doesn't bring anything (maybe 5-10 dps) => stick a damage control 3- no prop, imao a big mistake, can help you put some dist vs the rats, and close gates faster 4-2 SBA are OK, but you have no shield booster fittted, plus the one in your cargo is wrong, want a Xlarge on a BS 5- now the resists, you want a pve boat, so you will encounter specific rats, and you know wich damage to tank (2 max, so 1 invuln + 1 specific hardener for each damage, switch according to mission), also now you have a free low, put a DC2 in there, 12.5% resist with no stack penalty, plus will help you big time if you get overwhelmed 6- that flux coil is ugly, and you won't be cap stable anyway, if something, use a powerdiag, that will help your cap and passive recharge giving you a tad more tank |
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