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Nebuli
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:12:00 -
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Edited by: Nebuli on 23/04/2006 21:16:04
 Originally by: Maya Rkell
Originally by: Nebuli
Dont have experiance of sansha 10/10, but I run a Angel 10/10 occasionaly and angels are pretty well known as one of the hardest npc in the game, so no reason why you couldnt do a sanshas one with a few BSs.
The angels took a MAJOR nerf in the NPC changes and are now on the same power level as the other NPC's. Before they were nasty yes...
Yeah I was aware of the nerf to them, but they didnt suddenly become easy when compared to other 10/10, someone said above that 2-4 BS couldnt do a sansha 10/10, and I simply stated that if you can do an angel 10/10 with 2-4 BS I see no reason why you need a dread to do other faction 10/10s.
Also I still class angels as the hardest NPC still as they still do all damage types, just not as often, now its mainly explosive with some kinetic, but they can still do thermal and EM, they also all mwd right up to you which can make things harder.
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Illystin De'Vir
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Posted - 2006.04.23 21:54:00 -
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You can't put a dread in a 10/10 plex. "This gate is not designed to handle something of that size" Carriers are also unable to be used, but you can assign the fighters to someone inside the complex and they will work.
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Kalil d'Maelstromo
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:17:00 -
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I have seen RAT in the 10/10 Catch Sansha plex with 4-5 BS's ask them.
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Shimpu
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:22:00 -
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Edited by: Shimpu on 23/04/2006 22:22:50
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newfacex
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:30:00 -
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Anyone who says that you cant put a capital ship into a 10/10 please go to southern esoteria and watch the hedgehog whoha gang farm the complex with dreads ;)
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itsabird
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Posted - 2006.04.23 22:51:00 -
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Originally by: newfacex
Anyone who says that you cant put a capital ship into a 10/10 please go to southern esoteria and watch the hedgehog whoha gang farm the complex with dreads ;)
You can also watch bob farm it with capital ships, anyone who says capital ships cant enter 10/10s is clueless or trying to spread false information.
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Vanye
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:17:00 -
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Edited by: Vanye on 23/04/2006 23:20:51
Edited by: Vanye on 23/04/2006 23:17:30
Originally by: itsabird
You can also watch bob farm it with capital ships, anyone who says capital ships cant enter 10/10s is clueless or trying to spread false information.
Or they are aware that the ships allowed are not linked to the plex' difficulty rating, but to the plex itself. It's definetely not possible to enter the Serpentis 10/10 with a capital ship since RMR. Not that it matters, because unlike the sansha 10/10 it can actually be done by 2 BS :).
Edit: it might be possible that I'm wrong if they changed the captial allowance after Blood, because we haven't bothered to try since RMR.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:21:00 -
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Originally by: itsabird
Originally by: newfacex
Anyone who says that you cant put a capital ship into a 10/10 please go to southern esoteria and watch the hedgehog whoha gang farm the complex with dreads ;)
You can also watch bob farm it with capital ships, anyone who says capital ships cant enter 10/10s is clueless or trying to spread false information.
Or maybe Capital ships aren't suppose to be able to enter them, and if they can it's a bug?
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BoinKlasik
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Posted - 2006.04.23 23:46:00 -
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Originally by: dabster
damnit..Maya beat me :P
Angels used to be the hardest because they dished out all 4 damages, making them trickier to tank. It changed with RMR so now they do 95% EXP/KIN, with very few doing a bit of thermal, and i think only 1? (the biggest BS), doing EM.
tell that to the saints, cherabims, seraphims, phalanx, siezer etc...
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Alan Bell
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Posted - 2006.04.24 05:29:00 -
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so, do dreads use a cyno field into it? or use the accelerator gates?
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Benglada
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Posted - 2006.04.24 05:54:00 -
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They use the accel gates
They can enter sansha 10/10
they CANNOT enter the angel 10/10
not sure about the serp.
(the top two have been proven by me personnaly)
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Bozl1n
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Posted - 2006.04.24 06:38:00 -
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They cant gate into the serp plex
The differences between the sanshas plex and the other is the damage mod of the stations weapons
Serp and Angels have a 4x citadel and weapon mod
Station Ultima has a 100x citadel and weapon mod, meaning you often wont even load the enviroment (or that was tru b4 the server upgrade at very least)b4 u are in a pod
The sanshas entrence gate is different to every other accel gate, it requires leadership 5 to activate, maybe this has sommin to do with it allowing capitol ships to use it. All the 10/10s did allow dreads to jump into them intill the patch carriers and titans were introduced, since then u cant jump into the serp plex via they front door in a capitol class ship
I assume thats also tru of the angels plex
All the above said im told agent mission plexs work differently, i dont have a agent to test it tho.
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dabster
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Posted - 2006.04.25 16:05:00 -
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Originally by: BoinKlasik
Originally by: dabster
damnit..Maya beat me :P
Angels used to be the hardest because they dished out all 4 damages, making them trickier to tank. It changed with RMR so now they do 95% EXP/KIN, with very few doing a bit of thermal, and i think only 1? (the biggest BS), doing EM.
tell that to the saints, cherabims, seraphims, phalanx, siezer etc...
Thats exactly what i said...."very few doing a bit of thermal"..
Seraphim is the 1.85 bs that does EM (less EM than Exp).
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Posted - 2006.04.25 16:22:00 -
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Originally by: Ashelth
Someone in SA has fraps of them killing a certain corp's dread in a 10/10 sansha's plex near fat-6p. I think they've done it twice now.
Collective members killed that dread 
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NoWeR
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Posted - 2006.04.25 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: NoWeR on 25/04/2006 16:30:04
To do the angel complex all u need 1 bs and a support ship, nothing more, try to do it on the sanshas and u wont be able to get to the second lvl, its seems ccp have it "balanced" that way, dreads alowed in the sanshas but not on the angels.
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Kipkruide
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Posted - 2006.04.26 06:57:00 -
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btw. it's perfectly possible to lose dreads in the 10/10 sansha plex too, so it's by no means a risk free endeavour, and it's actually faster to do it with a bship gang.
get disconnected or lagged out when station ultima starts shooting and it's bye bye dread in about 1 minute.
so all in all it seems ccp did a fairly nice balancing job on the plexes i'd say
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