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ChernoChiel	Posted - 2006.04.22 21:33:00 - [1] i have a question can a dread enter a 10/10 plex ? if yes how Thanx Chern ___________________________ "what did that button do??"
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.04.22 21:37:00 - [2] cyno field directly in perhaps? -------------------Sig----------------------- Decrease blaster CPU useage Decrease Hybrid cap useage Balance all weapon systems DO IT SOON
ChernoChiel	Posted - 2006.04.22 21:42:00 - [3] ty :) ___________________________ "what did that button do??"
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.04.22 21:51:00 - [4] Edited by: Gronsak on 22/04/2006 21:51:15 Originally by: ChernoChiel ty :) im not sure, im just assumeing it can be done but it would mean having to cyno each time there is a gate! if it works, i demand 25% of the loot on your first go -------------------Sig----------------------- Decrease blaster CPU useage Decrease Hybrid cap useage Balance all weapon systems DO IT SOON
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.04.22 22:37:00 - [5] You can't activate the cyno field inside a complex. -------- Shinra Director
Lefia	Posted - 2006.04.22 22:37:00 - [6] Not sure here, but I doubt you'd need to cyno into each section, since deadspace gates aren't the same as intersystem gates. Deadspace gates activate your warpdrive, which I think is still fine for a dread. No first hand experience here though. Originally by: hired goon I agree with every point and counter point that has been brought up in this and every other argument ever had.
Reddice	Posted - 2006.04.22 22:43:00 - [7] yes u can enter a 10.10complexxs with a dread an a carrier also u dont need a field sence dreads or carriers can warp to any part of a system with out a field the only time u need a field is if u are going to a ntoher system
Nebuli	Posted - 2006.04.22 22:50:00 - [8] Main question realy is, why would you want to? lol Two BS can do a 10/10 if you do it right, 4 can do it easily... CEO - Art of War
Ashelth	Posted - 2006.04.23 05:26:00 - [9] Someone in SA has fraps of them killing a certain corp's dread in a 10/10 sansha's plex near fat-6p. I think they've done it twice now.
Dust Angel	Posted - 2006.04.23 05:58:00 - [10] Originally by: Nebuli Main question realy is, why would you want to? lol Two BS can do a 10/10 if you do it right, 4 can do it easily... Not the sansha 10/10 _____________________________________ Stressed out with empire politics? Sansha's Nation helps clear your mind.
Nebuli	Posted - 2006.04.23 14:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Dust Angel Originally by: Nebuli Main question realy is, why would you want to? lol Two BS can do a 10/10 if you do it right, 4 can do it easily... Not the sansha 10/10 Dont have experiance of sansha 10/10, but I run a Angel 10/10 occasionaly and angels are pretty well known as one of the hardest npc in the game, so no reason why you couldnt do a sanshas one with a few BSs. CEO - Art of War
Spartan239	Posted - 2006.04.23 14:27:00 - [12] Originally by: Nebuli Originally by: Dust Angel Originally by: Nebuli Main question realy is, why would you want to? lol Two BS can do a 10/10 if you do it right, 4 can do it easily... Not the sansha 10/10 Dont have experiance of sansha 10/10, but I run a Angel 10/10 occasionaly and angels are pretty well known as one of the hardest npc in the game, so no reason why you couldnt do a sanshas one with a few BSs. sanshas is the hardest ingame, ultima has an ebil dps and tank I post on the forums for MaxSuicide that makes me cool? Originally by: Dark Shikari Dragonball Z> all other anime
Cosmo Raata	Posted - 2006.04.23 14:47:00 - [13] With 70% resistance across the board, Station Ultima still hit my dread for over 35,000 hp. :)
BH Sharkbait	Posted - 2006.04.23 14:57:00 - [14] you can't start cyno fields in a deadspace area. and i think(not 100% yet) but you are not meant to be able to get a dread into a 10/10 complex. if it's possible, please file a bug report with the system name and complex thx [Bug Report Here] - [How to write a good bugreport]
itsabird	Posted - 2006.04.23 16:39:00 - [15] Originally by: Cosmo Raata With 70% resistance across the board, Station Ultima still hit my dread for over 35,000 hp. :) Then how is the complex even doable? I see people doing it with 4-5 battleships on a daily basis.
dalman	Posted - 2006.04.23 16:49:00 - [16] Originally by: itsabird Originally by: Cosmo Raata With 70% resistance across the board, Station Ultima still hit my dread for over 35,000 hp. :) Then how is the complex even doable? I see people doing it with 4-5 battleships on a daily basis. Who? And are you sure they're doing the final lvl with station Ultima? "Hedgehog in a fog"-corp pretty much lives in the south 10/10 complexes which they farm daily, they're the ones selling most of the Centus X-type loot on escrow. But as said, they use dreads, and we in SA have killed 2 of their Dreads (as well as some really expensive fitted battleships). Am I forced to have any regret? I've become the lie, beautiful and free In my righteous own mind I adore and preach the insanity you gave to me
itsabird	Posted - 2006.04.23 17:02:00 - [17] Originally by: dalman Originally by: itsabird Originally by: Cosmo Raata With 70% resistance across the board, Station Ultima still hit my dread for over 35,000 hp. :) Then how is the complex even doable? I see people doing it with 4-5 battleships on a daily basis. Who? And are you sure they're doing the final lvl with station Ultima? "Hedgehog in a fog"-corp pretty much lives in the south 10/10 complexes which they farm daily, they're the ones selling most of the Centus X-type loot on escrow. But as said, they use dreads, and we in SA have killed 2 of their Dreads (as well as some really expensive fitted battleships). I'm certain.
Dreez	Posted - 2006.04.23 17:19:00 - [18] Originally by: BH Sharkbait you can't start cyno fields in a deadspace area. and i think(not 100% yet) but you are not meant to be able to get a dread into a 10/10 complex. if it's possible, please file a bug report with the system name and complex thx So i guess that if we send these bugreports about dreads being able to ****10/10 complexes, it will be fixed like that snaps fingers*. But if i file a bugreport about a broken gun, it takes 1-2 years before it even gets looked into . Current Location: After chasing TomB for 2 years, at the pub, getting a cold beer.
Nebuli	Posted - 2006.04.23 17:24:00 - [19] Still doesnt sound any different to the angel plex, seen that hit friends BSs for 25k + as well, but its not constant hitting, hits like every 30 secs or something so tankable with some repair drones etc. And same as realy high resists so still not seeing why a dread is needed in a serp plex yet the angel one which I have run quite alot of times doesnt, and havnt heard anything that makes it sound any different. CEO - Art of War
Asurix	Posted - 2006.04.23 17:34:00 - [20] My corp does the 10/10 sansha complex with a passive/tanked vulture with 1 basilisk boosting shield
Admiral IceBlock	Posted - 2006.04.23 17:48:00 - [21] Originally by: BH Sharkbait you can't start cyno fields in a deadspace area. and i think(not 100% yet) but you are not meant to be able to get a dread into a 10/10 complex. if it's possible, please file a bug report with the system name and complex thx no, please dont file report. "We brake for nobody"
missusblonde	Posted - 2006.04.23 18:21:00 - [22] Originally by: BH Sharkbait you can't start cyno fields in a deadspace area. and i think(not 100% yet) but you are not meant to be able to get a dread into a 10/10 complex. if it's possible, please file a bug report with the system name and complex thx Dreadnoughts are getting into all 10/10 complexes, same for carriers, its very lame watching people do the complexes in capital ships.
xeom	Posted - 2006.04.23 18:27:00 - [23] Originally by: Dreez Originally by: BH Sharkbait you can't start cyno fields in a deadspace area. and i think(not 100% yet) but you are not meant to be able to get a dread into a 10/10 complex. if it's possible, please file a bug report with the system name and complex thx So i guess that if we send these bugreports about dreads being able to ****10/10 complexes, it will be fixed like that snaps fingers. But if i file a bugreport about a broken gun, it takes 1-2 years before it even gets looked into . The more it ***es of the player base,the faster it has to be done . _____________________ CCP where are our t2 shield power relays?
Kaylana Syi	Posted - 2006.04.23 19:43:00 - [24] Originally by: Asurix My corp does the 10/10 sansha complex with a passive/tanked vulture with 1 basilisk boosting shield Not for long! Originally by: "Oveur" I don't react to threats any better than you do
ChernoChiel	Posted - 2006.04.23 19:55:00 - [25] ye cool ...... so what is it now yes or no coz there still aint a real awnser here ( laughs ) even a mod doesnt know ( no offence we aint all einstein ) Not that i am able yet 2 fly a dread but i just wondered since i hear ppl talking about it i would like 2 know the real awnser no fables or myths :) ___________________________ "what did that button do??"
madaluap	Posted - 2006.04.23 20:37:00 - [26] Originally by: BH Sharkbait you can't start cyno fields in a deadspace area. and i think(not 100% yet) but you are not meant to be able to get a dread into a 10/10 complex. if it's possible, please file a bug report with the system name and complex thx thats 1 bugreport that will never be filed _________________________________________________ no sig :(
Maya Rkell	Posted - 2006.04.23 20:45:00 - [27] Originally by: Nebuli Dont have experiance of sansha 10/10, but I run a Angel 10/10 occasionaly and angels are pretty well known as one of the hardest npc in the game, so no reason why you couldnt do a sanshas one with a few BSs. The angels took a MAJOR nerf in the NPC changes and are now on the same power level as the other NPC's. Before they were nasty yes... "The Human eye is a marvelous device, with a very little effort it can overlook all but the most glaring injustice" - Quellchrist Falconer
dabster	Posted - 2006.04.23 20:53:00 - [28] damnit..Maya beat me :P Angels used to be the hardest because they dished out all 4 damages, making them trickier to tank. It changed with RMR so now they do 95% EXP/KIN, with very few doing a bit of thermal, and i think only 1? (the biggest BS), doing EM. ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.23 20:56:00 - [29] Originally by: ChernoChiel i have a question can a dread enter a 10/10 plex ? No, come RMR no capital ships can enter complexes iirc. Originally by: Gronsak cyno field directly in perhaps? Pretty sure you can't cyno in deadspace. Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.23 20:57:00 - [30] Originally by: itsabird Originally by: Cosmo Raata With 70% resistance across the board, Station Ultima still hit my dread for over 35,000 hp. :) Then how is the complex even doable? I see people doing it with 4-5 battleships on a daily basis. Transversal, sig radius and a few other factors probably? Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Nebuli	Posted - 2006.04.23 21:12:00 - [31] Edited by: Nebuli on 23/04/2006 21:16:04 Originally by: Maya Rkell Originally by: Nebuli Dont have experiance of sansha 10/10, but I run a Angel 10/10 occasionaly and angels are pretty well known as one of the hardest npc in the game, so no reason why you couldnt do a sanshas one with a few BSs. The angels took a MAJOR nerf in the NPC changes and are now on the same power level as the other NPC's. Before they were nasty yes... Yeah I was aware of the nerf to them, but they didnt suddenly become easy when compared to other 10/10, someone said above that 2-4 BS couldnt do a sansha 10/10, and I simply stated that if you can do an angel 10/10 with 2-4 BS I see no reason why you need a dread to do other faction 10/10s. Also I still class angels as the hardest NPC still as they still do all damage types, just not as often, now its mainly explosive with some kinetic, but they can still do thermal and EM, they also all mwd right up to you which can make things harder. CEO - Art of War
Illystin De'Vir	Posted - 2006.04.23 21:54:00 - [32] You can't put a dread in a 10/10 plex. "This gate is not designed to handle something of that size" Carriers are also unable to be used, but you can assign the fighters to someone inside the complex and they will work. ---- - Resurrection is now accepting applications from mature and self-sufficient individuals looking to be reborn
Kalil d'Maelstromo	Posted - 2006.04.23 22:17:00 - [33] The man above is on the dollar. I have seen RAT in the 10/10 Catch Sansha plex with 4-5 BS's ask them. ************************ Originally by:** Deb Loblaw Anybody who demands a reach around is just a greedy bastich, if you ask me. If you wanted satisfaction, you should have been on top. Huzzah
Shimpu	Posted - 2006.04.23 22:22:00 - [34] Edited by: Shimpu on 23/04/2006 22:22:50 -
newfacex	Posted - 2006.04.23 22:30:00 - [35] Anyone who says that you cant put a capital ship into a 10/10 please go to southern esoteria and watch the hedgehog whoha gang farm the complex with dreads ;)
itsabird	Posted - 2006.04.23 22:51:00 - [36] Originally by: newfacex Anyone who says that you cant put a capital ship into a 10/10 please go to southern esoteria and watch the hedgehog whoha gang farm the complex with dreads ;) You can also watch bob farm it with capital ships, anyone who says capital ships cant enter 10/10s is clueless or trying to spread false information.
Vanye	Posted - 2006.04.23 23:17:00 - [37] Edited by: Vanye on 23/04/2006 23:20:51 Edited by: Vanye on 23/04/2006 23:17:30 Originally by: itsabird You can also watch bob farm it with capital ships, anyone who says capital ships cant enter 10/10s is clueless or trying to spread false information. Or they are aware that the ships allowed are not linked to the plex' difficulty rating, but to the plex itself. It's definetely not possible to enter the Serpentis 10/10 with a capital ship since RMR. Not that it matters, because unlike the sansha 10/10 it can actually be done by 2 BS :). Edit: it might be possible that I'm wrong if they changed the captial allowance after Blood, because we haven't bothered to try since RMR.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.23 23:21:00 - [38] Originally by: itsabird Originally by: newfacex Anyone who says that you cant put a capital ship into a 10/10 please go to southern esoteria and watch the hedgehog whoha gang farm the complex with dreads ;) You can also watch bob farm it with capital ships, anyone who says capital ships cant enter 10/10s is clueless or trying to spread false information. Or maybe Capital ships aren't suppose to be able to enter them, and if they can it's a bug? Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
BoinKlasik	Posted - 2006.04.23 23:46:00 - [39] Originally by: dabster damnit..Maya beat me :P Angels used to be the hardest because they dished out all 4 damages, making them trickier to tank. It changed with RMR so now they do 95% EXP/KIN, with very few doing a bit of thermal, and i think only 1? (the biggest BS), doing EM. tell that to the saints, cherabims, seraphims, phalanx, siezer etc... doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Alan Bell	Posted - 2006.04.24 05:29:00 - [40] so, do dreads use a cyno field into it? or use the accelerator gates? http://coldfusion.online-guild.com
Benglada	Posted - 2006.04.24 05:54:00 - [41] They use the accel gates They can enter sansha 10/10 they CANNOT enter the angel 10/10 not sure about the serp. (the top two have been proven by me personnaly) --------------------------- Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
Bozl1n	Posted - 2006.04.24 06:38:00 - [42] They cant gate into the serp plex The differences between the sanshas plex and the other is the damage mod of the stations weapons Serp and Angels have a 4x citadel and weapon mod Station Ultima has a 100x citadel and weapon mod, meaning you often wont even load the enviroment (or that was tru b4 the server upgrade at very least)b4 u are in a pod The sanshas entrence gate is different to every other accel gate, it requires leadership 5 to activate, maybe this has sommin to do with it allowing capitol ships to use it. All the 10/10s did allow dreads to jump into them intill the patch carriers and titans were introduced, since then u cant jump into the serp plex via they front door in a capitol class ship I assume thats also tru of the angels plex All the above said im told agent mission plexs work differently, i dont have a agent to test it tho.
dabster	Posted - 2006.04.25 16:05:00 - [43] Originally by: BoinKlasik Originally by: dabster damnit..Maya beat me :P Angels used to be the hardest because they dished out all 4 damages, making them trickier to tank. It changed with RMR so now they do 95% EXP/KIN, with very few doing a bit of thermal, and i think only 1? (the biggest BS), doing EM. tell that to the saints, cherabims, seraphims, phalanx, siezer etc... Thats exactly what i said...."very few doing a bit of thermal".. Seraphim is the 1.85 bs that does EM (less EM than Exp). ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
LeMoose	Posted - 2006.04.25 16:22:00 - [44] Originally by: Ashelth Someone in SA has fraps of them killing a certain corp's dread in a 10/10 sansha's plex near fat-6p. I think they've done it twice now. Collective members killed that dread
NoWeR	Posted - 2006.04.25 16:30:00 - [45] Edited by: NoWeR on 25/04/2006 16:30:04 To do the angel complex all u need 1 bs and a support ship, nothing more, try to do it on the sanshas and u wont be able to get to the second lvl, its seems ccp have it "balanced" that way, dreads alowed in the sanshas but not on the angels.
Kipkruide	Posted - 2006.04.26 06:57:00 - [46] btw. it's perfectly possible to lose dreads in the 10/10 sansha plex too, so it's by no means a risk free endeavour, and it's actually faster to do it with a bship gang. get disconnected or lagged out when station ultima starts shooting and it's bye bye dread in about 1 minute. so all in all it seems ccp did a fairly nice balancing job on the plexes i'd say

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