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Apocalypse Solar
Nova Solar Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:17:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Have you ever run an Angel Vigil and/or Angel DED4 in an AF?
Are you even skilled enough to fly an Assault Frigate? |
Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem
Renegades Of Silence
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:18:00 -
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I have done the 4/10 in Serpentis space in an AF, and yes, it is possible, and not that difficult. But having done 4/10 in all other empire regions, I can tell you, that an AF will have a hard time with some of them. While I agree that it's possible to do exploration in an AF, I would go for a HAC in the long run. It's much less of a pita to have a solid tank AND solid dps, and the latter is imho what counts if you have to compete with others. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:33:00 -
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Apocalypse Solar wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Have you ever run an Angel Vigil and/or Angel DED4 in an AF? Are you even skilled enough to fly an Assault Frigate?
You did not answer the question. |
Apocalypse Solar
Nova Solar Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:37:00 -
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Yes, I probably have at some point, but I tend to stick to Caldari / Amarr space when it comes to High Sec exploration while in Caldari militia. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:40:00 -
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Apocalypse Solar wrote:Yes, I probably have
So you can't say for certain that you have.
I think you probably have not.
Fair enough. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:47:00 -
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Apocalypse Solar wrote:I said they are doable in an Assault Frigate .. not that it is going to be easy for EVERYONE.
I am a 2005 player and have been doing exploration since 2008, running these sites in an Assault Frigate is easy for me .. people who have less skill points (or a 2 month old character such as yourself) may find it a lot harder.
Seriously it is not hard with correctly set up resists, using low signature tanking with an afterburner and a medium shield booster (Hawk has bonuses to shield boost amount).
The problem has never been running the sites, the problem is and always has been taking too long which raises the chances someone else will find the site and compete with you for the loot.
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Apocalypse Solar
Nova Solar Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:51:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Apocalypse Solar wrote:Yes, I probably have So you can't say for certain that you have. I think you probably have not. Fair enough.
You can think what you like, it doesn't matter either way. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.03.11 22:58:00 -
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Apocalypse Solar wrote:You can think what you like, it doesn't matter either way.
It rather does matter as to whether what you claim is true or not, and from that, whether your claims are informed or not. |
Apocalypse Solar
Nova Solar Industries Inc.
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Posted - 2014.03.11 23:03:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:
The problem has never been running the sites, the problem is and always has been taking too long which raises the chances someone else will find the site and compete with you for the loot.
I agree, competition is a problem especially in Caldari space, but for me this does not really matter these days as even the deadspace loot is worth a fraction of what it used to be.
Looted Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster today, only to price check and find it has fallen below 100m (used to be able to sell this mod for around 600m before the new probing system arrived on the scene).
I aim for the expeditions from the smaller unrated sites these days, as there seems to be far less competition when it comes to running them, and some of the random commander loot drops can be quite profitable. |
Kom Bocket
The Raging Raccoons
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Posted - 2014.03.12 04:27:00 -
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Thanks for all the replies guys! Taking notes from all of this. I just have a question, how much dps can I expect out of these sites? |
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Tauranon
Weeesearch
Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
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Posted - 2014.03.12 05:12:00 -
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Kom Bocket wrote:Thanks for all the replies guys! Taking notes from all of this. I just have a question, how much dps can I expect out of these sites?
There is 500 dps in most of the end ded 4, watch and vigil pockets, but you have to be doing dumb things like using blasters from a battlecruiser to get it to all apply to you.
I used a fleet stabber for a test a while back, and it held fine until I stopped moving. Many other ships can fight at longer range and can reduce the pockets before full dps starts to apply etc.
ie 1 med reppper II with 2 T2 rat specific hardeners will usually hold if the pilot isn't bad. maybe 1 extra hardener or a tanking rig as well if fighting the wrong race for the ships resists.
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Selaria Unbertable
POS Mortem
Renegades Of Silence
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Posted - 2014.03.12 11:38:00 -
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Kom Bocket wrote:Thanks for all the replies guys! Taking notes from all of this. I just have a question, how much dps can I expect out of these sites?
I tend to build a 300ish dps tank for my exploration ships, but as I usually fly an Ishtar, I can snipe from a distance without moving much. It comes with experience, and depends on the ship's size.
I would start with a stronger tank for the beginning, there are some nasty escalations from the unrated sites that can make you sweat if you are not prepared.
Once you know the sites better, the triggers etc. you can downgrade if you feel your tank is too much and switch tank mods for utility or damage mods. |
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