The problem with you guys isn't that you gank miners, or incursioners, or bling mission battleships, or freighters, or whatever prey floats your boat. It's that you think you're upholding some standards of gameplay. This is a sandbox. As soon as you complained that they were "playing the game wrong", you rendered your opinion irrelevant. The same goes for all this CODE nonsense; if people get a kick out of enforcing their "code" and splurging about it on the forms (even those that can't find the "undock" button), fine and dandy. The stupidity comes when they start talking about AFKing and botting. Botting is bannable; report it. If you don't and gank instead, you are just ganking; the other person botting is irrelevant. Same with AFKing; if people play AFK, that's their business. You have neither the power, ability, or right to enforce any (nonexistant) rule about AFKing; the only thing you have the right to do is gank tht target. Their presence or absence at the keyboard is irrelevant. IF people wanted to actually FIX AFKing they would advocate for a more interesting mining experience, but then, what would the CODEies do for forum attention?

If you want to add me to your silly list, go right ahead. Our headquarters is in Sendaya. If you find me, you just go for it; my ratting ships are all PVP fit. Bring some friends if you like; we love good fights and we'll be happy to scramble Pocket Rockets.

Oh you guys! Ganking can go either/or. There are times when ganking is stupid easy; an AFK miner, an AFK mission runner, ect. [...]

Jealousy isn't an attractive quality friend.

But I do find it hard to stay humble being a true high sec champion and all. I could see why people would hate on a champion who has embraced the code and accepted James 315 as his savior and is happy.

Ganking is PVP - but what you did, killing that miner, is a form of PVP called griefing, which is a bannable offence. Unfortunately CCP chooses not to enforce their own rules in this regard. You had nothing to gain from destroying that miners ship except for the pleasure of causing him headache and lost time, which is griefing.

James315 is a pubbie that writes long winded articles nobody reads.

Ganking miners, again, is what it is, calling yourself a champion is a laughable prospect but, whatever makes you feel important.

The 'CODE' is roleplaying faggotry at it's core.

True Pirates don't live in Highsec.

#GGWP2EZ.

James315 is a pubbie that writes long winded articles nobody reads.

Ganking miners, again, is what it is, calling yourself a champion is a laughable prospect but, whatever makes you feel important.

The 'CODE' is roleplaying faggotry at it's core.

True Pirates don't live in Highsec.

#GGWP2EZ.

Highly ironic this guy is calling 'faggotry' on someone.

If you haven't noticed I've been responding all night. It must get upsetting that if you were a champion like me you wouldn't be crying it up on the forums

I have no reason to be upset because I am #winning while everyone is #admiringmaskillzyo

#getonmylevel

I cannot be brought down by someone who literally has their personal kb link in their signature...

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you just GOT brought down

Oh, God no, I'm not a hypocrite, you see. I have like 5 accounts.

And as for your "come fight us!" thing, I was in Sendaya just the other day, doing the Angel Arc in a (completely shitfit) Malediction. When I did actually see you guys, none of you even yellowboxed me. Fucks sake I saw someone with a T1 Hauler out there.

So don't act like you guys always bring the pain, you try to fight when you're ready to do so, just like everyone else.

Hilarious... It's hardly self inflicted when you and your nullbear ilk spoon feed it to them.

D.

The Angel epic arc involves going to Sendaya for like 30 seconds to one of the starter agents.. and seriously, a malediction? Our newbies have been told over and over not to chase interceptors because they're always off-grid boosted and just try to separate their atrons and such from the pack and pick them off while doing 7000+ m/s. You see, we don't all have off-grid boosters, and many of the newbies have, at most, a few million skill points and can't even T2 fit their frigates. They know better than to even try interceptors becuase they simply can't catch up, and if they do, they can't stay close enough to hold point or get a web.

If you actually ENGAGE one of them, that's when the swarms of angry newbies arrive, but obviously you didn't do that. No worries; just passing through. If you actually WANTED a fight, you'd have gotten one. Hell, we formed 68 people to fend off a 15 man BL fleet the other day while we had a major op out in null. We got our asses handed to us since we were kitchen sink and had a 'volunteer' FC, but we still had fun and we definitely fought. I could have done without the Hyperion loss.. but that's what it was for, so I don't feel too bad. Yes, we blob. It works, especially when so many of your pilots basically just have no idea what they're doing.

Nothing that happens in Highsec matters.

lolkillboardstats.

Ive said it before and will say it again. Jealousy is not an attractive quality friend.

Nothing that happens in Highsec matters.

lolkillboardstats.

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True Pirates don't live in Highsec.
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Highsec is the most populated area in the game. It's where the industry is. It's where the market is and trillions of ISK are moved around day after day. I am sure something happens in a place like this that matters.

A brief sidebar about semantics. Particularly in the code vernacular.

If the attack is against a bot (or aspirant) then 'technically' isn't it PVE. If shooting red +'s controlled by an AI is pve, then surely killing an afk miner could be considered in similar terms.

Insert Code and J315 champions of hisec PVE logo [Here]

Why would I ever be jealous of someone I didn't know existed until a few hours ago, and probably won't remember tomorrow?

One day you might be known, but today isn't that day.

Highsec is the most populated area in the game. It's where the industry is. It's where the market is and trillions of ISK are moved around day after day. I am sure something happens in a place like this that matters.

Are you sure it does not matter who controls this place? Or do you think it can't be controlled and that capsuleers are only supposed to project power out there in nullsec where CCP created some game mechanic for it? Do you think the "endgame" is out there in some XYZ system and not in Jita because everyone tells you it has to be this way?

If you look at recent EVE trailers from CCP, they always have some kind of element about how the capsuleers influence in empire space is rising. So even CCP seams to acknowledge that we are taking over. I wait for the trailer where the CONCORD guy gets knocked down and James 315 takes over the mic.

What does this have to do to with the fact that high security space ganking is pvp?

We have no interest in you or the BRAVE collective. Even brave collective guys jump in on our fleets for some pvp.

ganking real life equivalent
running over a pedestrian in a cross walk and then bragging to everyone that your a hardened killer .

wile ill admit ganking is pvp in the sense your going against a player but i still dont like it as it makes my ships cost more.

A) I was replying to someone else, not to you, and B) Obviously its pvp. Duh. Why would you even make a topic like that? I'll re-use an analogy I saw somewhere else on this forum - racing mini-vans is technically auto-racing. It is not, however, a very meaningful type of auto racing. You're a mini-van racer; you rely entirely on attacking ships totally unsuited for combat. At least people ganking mission battleships or incursion battleships are attacking something that is theoretically a useful combat ship; short range Vanguard incursion blaster boats especially.

Tooting your own horn about killing a lot of mining barges makes you look like one of those starcraft players that gets to silver league by cannon rushing every game, can't rise any higher because people know how to counter it, then convinces himself he's good because he's not in bronze.



So? We have plenty of it where we are. BRAVE is huge; some people have esoteric interests.

Good Morning esteemed community of C & P,

Yesterday I had an interesting conversation with a 2 month old high sec miner regarding myself and my corp ganking miners in high sec.

As is customary in local, after I fought a mackinaw with my catalyst I exclaimed "Good Fight" in local, and proceeded to express my love of PVP, by saying " I love to pvp"

A miner who was in the ice belt at the time proceeded to respond that it is not pvp due to it not being a fitted combat ship that could kill me. Killing defenceless ships is not pvp due to them not being able to fight you.

I proceeded to explain that as I was versing a player, and the person I killed was a player, therefore I was "versing" another player which qualifies to fall under player versus player.

Now correct me if I am wrong, but every ship in the game, besides concord, npc rats, faction police, customs officials etc is another player, and therefor ganking another player, defenceless or not is PVP.

Miners/carebears that read this need to be well aware that Ganking is PVP and always will be, defenceless or not.

Thankyou in advance,

loyalanon
The Conference Elite
Enforcer of the Code. and a true Champion of high sec.