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d00bld0ze	Posted - 2006.04.25 14:11:00 - [1] Edited by: d00bld0ze on 25/04/2006 14:12:36 Last month, announces of the Hawk upgrade. From versatile ship To missile assault ship This increased the hawk's prices of 300% on the market (7mio to 20mio) The item database is upgraded, but not the ship! Some good news about this? (an answer without soonÖ will be fine) English learning / Rank 20 / SP: 69 of 5000
FFGR	Posted - 2006.04.25 14:22:00 - [2] That's because it isn't updated ingame yet They did that again before the deployment of RMR (had after RMR in Itemdatabase, but CW was still the active game version) It is going to be like that after the deployment of the new patch, IF it will be passed down and accepted at that form _____________________________ siggy v. 0.1, bare with my Photoshop n00bness
Fleshreaperwillreturn	Posted - 2006.04.25 14:51:00 - [3] Might as well ask in this topic: when will the hawk be updated?
CptEagle	Posted - 2006.04.25 15:03:00 - [4] Its still got the optimal hybrid range bonus? Thats stupid, the stats in the IDB are not final probably.
CptEagle	Posted - 2006.04.25 15:21:00 - [5] Edited by: CptEagle on 25/04/2006 15:21:15 oops..
d00bld0ze	Posted - 2006.04.25 16:19:00 - [6] Originally by: Fleshreaperwillreturn Might as well ask in this topic: when will the hawk be updated? When could I pilot my mini Cerberus? English learning / Rank 20 / SP: 69 of 5000
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.04.25 16:33:00 - [7] Edited by: Gronsak on 25/04/2006 16:33:36 4x t2 standard launchers T2 1x 20km km. 1x t2 small sheild booster. 1x EM hardener. 1x AB 1x t2 BCU 1x named PDU [has to be the lower grade low cpu one] a VERY nice PVP ship, but more than that, the ultimate low level agent running ship! -------------------Sig----------------------- IPO idea: give it a read, feedback wanted, thanks
CptEagle	Posted - 2006.04.25 16:39:00 - [8] Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 25/04/2006 16:33:36 4x t2 standard launchers T2 1x 20km km. 1x t2 small sheild booster. 1x EM hardener. 1x AB 1x t2 BCU 1x named PDU [has to be the lower grade low cpu one] a VERY nice PVP ship, but more than that, the ultimate low level agent running ship! Hmm this ship will be able to eat inty's and frigs scaringly fast I think.
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.04.25 16:50:00 - [9] Originally by: CptEagle Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 25/04/2006 16:33:36 4x t2 standard launchers T2 1x 20km km. 1x t2 small sheild booster. 1x EM hardener. 1x AB 1x t2 BCU 1x named PDU [has to be the lower grade low cpu one] a VERY nice PVP ship, but more than that, the ultimate low level agent running ship! Hmm this ship will be able to eat inty's and frigs scaringly fast I think. yep, and with a burst damage of 453.75 with T1 ammo. 42km range. a nice AB there its gona be a nice PVP ship. and with a ROF choosing any damage type ftw but let caldari have their moment its not like the harpy is the current best AF in game -------------------Sig----------------------- IPO idea: give it a read, feedback wanted, thanks
Jacxx	Posted - 2006.04.25 19:45:00 - [10] This change has actually made me REALLY unhappy. Even as a caldari assault frig pilot. This is because NOW I don't have a cheap AF!. That's why I liked the Hawk, cheap but effective. Now all I have are two outrageously exspensive ships...
Cade Morrigan	Posted - 2006.04.25 20:16:00 - [11] Originally by: Jacxx This change has actually made me REALLY unhappy. Even as a caldari assault frig pilot. This is because NOW I don't have a cheap AF!. That's why I liked the Hawk, cheap but effective. Now all I have are two outrageously exspensive ships... Cheap AF? use a Merlin. Seriously, it's a tough little bugger: 43, 77, 66, 55 are good resists! -= Save the Gila! Fix its grid and cpu! =-
Toy	Posted - 2006.04.25 22:07:00 - [12] One thing that got updates is the 31000LP offering for a caldari navy standard launcher... If I remember correctly the RoF is 10.5 seconds which is 20% better than T2, so this might be the uber item for the hawk.
Zekk Pacus	Posted - 2006.04.26 01:40:00 - [13] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: CptEagle Originally by: Gronsak Edited by: Gronsak on 25/04/2006 16:33:36 4x t2 standard launchers T2 1x 20km km. 1x t2 small sheild booster. 1x EM hardener. 1x AB 1x t2 BCU 1x named PDU [has to be the lower grade low cpu one] a VERY nice PVP ship, but more than that, the ultimate low level agent running ship! Hmm this ship will be able to eat inty's and frigs scaringly fast I think. yep, and with a burst damage of 453.75 with T1 ammo. 42km range. a nice AB there its gona be a nice PVP ship. and with a ROF choosing any damage type ftw but let caldari have their moment its not like the harpy is the current best AF in game I wouldn't say the Harpy is the best AF in the game. It's damn hard to fit with blasters and with rails isn't a solo ship - it's slow compared to most other assfrigs and inties will get in under the rail range in no time whatsoever. To be fair it's a great fleet hunter and I can push the optimal out past 90km without too much fiddling, but I wouldn't say it's the best assfrig. I'd much rather have an Enyo, Ishkur or Retribution.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.26 03:51:00 - [14] Originally by: Fleshreaperwillreturn Might as well ask in this topic: when will the hawk be updated? Next content/non-bugfix patch. So at the latest, Kali. Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.26 03:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Gronsak but let caldari have their moment its not like the harpy is the current best AF in game It's not. Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran
d00bld0ze	Posted - 2006.04.29 11:43:00 - [16] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Fleshreaperwillreturn Might as well ask in this topic: when will the hawk be updated? Next content/non-bugfix patch. So at the latest, Kali. If that's true, we want the return of the 6mio Hawk English learning / Rank 20 / SP: 69 of 5000
Gronsak	Posted - 2006.04.29 12:31:00 - [17] Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Gronsak but let caldari have their moment its not like the harpy is the current best AF in game It's not. oh rly, i have the easiest time killing cepters and t1 frigs in a harpy, 45km with lead FTW, 90KM with t2 ammo FTW and btw it looks like the hawk is getting two dmg bonous from tuxfords thred. which means its gona be doing more damage than the harpy from 0km to 40km. and on top of that be able to fit a AB. -------------------Sig----------------------- Nerf the Blasterthron its too dam powerfull :/
Surgio	Posted - 2006.04.29 16:11:00 - [18] Now that I have realized the power. I am going to go buy a hawk. This is going to be a great pvp ship period.
Grimpak	Posted - 2006.04.29 16:22:00 - [19] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Gronsak but let caldari have their moment its not like the harpy is the current best AF in game It's not. oh rly, i have the easiest time killing cepters and t1 frigs in a harpy, 45km with lead FTW, 90KM with t2 ammo FTW and btw it looks like the hawk is getting two dmg bonous from tuxfords thred. which means its gona be doing more damage than the harpy from 0km to 40km. and on top of that be able to fit a AB. ishkur can kill harpies fast. enyo gives out more damage. I know that a good retri pilot will kill them harpies faster than you can say "1,2,3,ohsnappop" ---------------- Originally by: Abdalion Shoot him ingame if you don't like this person. If you do like him, go mine veldspar with him.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.04.29 16:23:00 - [20] Originally by: Gronsak Originally by: Malthros Zenobia Originally by: Gronsak but let caldari have their moment its not like the harpy is the current best AF in game It's not. oh rly, i have the easiest time killing cepters and t1 frigs in a harpy, 45km with lead FTW, 90KM with t2 ammo FTW and btw it looks like the hawk is getting two dmg bonous from tuxfords thred. which means its gona be doing more damage than the harpy from 0km to 40km. and on top of that be able to fit a AB. All AFs kill t1 frigs easily, and a Harpy just gets reamed by an Ishkur, blaster enyo, or wolf unles you have them slow-boating to you from 80km. And no, the Hawk won't out damage a Harpy from about 0-20km, and 1 launcher with defensers, as **ty as they are, will cut the hawk's damage by 25%. Even with the 2 damage bonuses, you're nnot going to outdamage a close-range AF with the Hawk, unless they can pull some god-like damage with rage rockets maybe. Originally by:** Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined. RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran

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