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Niques Leutre
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:41:00 -
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This is a story. A story of courage, sacrifice, and revenge. A story of something that happened yesterday.
I myself have been in the State War Academy for a month and a half, so as one of the more experienced players, I took it upon myself to help some day old rookies when they asked for help in corp chat. A few of them had been killed claiming a few members of the corp SteelGrave were high sec pirating. Leaving cans scattered for newbies to pick up, stealing others' cans to try and get newbies to attack them, and so on.
At first I just though it was a few bored PvPers or would-be pirates making trouble, but then I heard they were flying Feroxes. Feroxes for pirating frigates and rookie ships? Sounded more like griefing or some PvPers showing off how big their e-peen was to clueless newbies. I hopped in a Scorpion and headed out to Kisogo, home of the State War Academy.
Upon arrival I quickly docked my Scorpion and went out in a Kestrel to see it for myself. They were indeed trying to provoke newbies by taking every can in site, as well as dropping items as newbie bait. One of the pilots that requested help suggested that we take out the leader first, to send a warning to the rest of the corp about high-sec pirating. So, I told the other players to let Slaughter SteelGrave, the corp leader, take their cans and flag himself.
We had one of the condors scan him and found, to our surprise that he was mounting a full stack of Warp Core Stabilizers as well as fairly weak weapons, set up for more anti-frigate work than head-on PvP. I was sort of disappointed hauling my Scorpion all the way out there to fight two experienced PvPers in Battlecruisers only to find they weren't set up for PvP at all, only griefing frigates. But I already had my Scorpion there, so I decided to proceed in any case.
After having some of the members to add extra Warp Disrupters, we proceeded to attack. A Scorpion, two Condors, and a Vexor. I bombarded Slaughter with ECM and Warp Disrupors, then let loose with heavy missiles. The Condors moved in to throw in extra Warp Disruption support and the Vexor let forth a swarm of drones.
In only a minute or two he was destroyed, Slaughter not even having an opportunity to fire back. I suppose he was shocked by the fact a newbie corporation could mount an effective counter-attack, or maybe he simply dropped his guard because he was in high sec and had a rack of Warp Core Stabilizers. Or maybe it was the rack of ECM arrays, several Warp Disruptors, Webbers, and Nos on him. In any case... victory was ours!
As soon as Slaughter's ship was destroyed and looted, his companion's Ferox decided to take flight fearing he would be next.
I know it wasn't an equal fight, an epic battle or anything like that. And I know killing the leader of a PvP corporation doesn't make us lords of PvP either. But it was still satisfying.
The morale of the story? People who use can bait to pirate newbies are not cool. Neither is using multiple Battlecruisers to kill newbie frigates and rookie ships. And beware the newbie corps. 
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The fiercer the foe, the sweeter the salvage.
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Death Unleashed
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:46:00 -
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Yarrr,
good work. You got to love it when the noobs bite back. grats on the kill and helping the newbies.
Nothing more pathetic then baiting newbies.
Regards
Death
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Alcorr Mteth
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:48:00 -
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Nicely done.
Don't worry about the epicness of the tale, or the encounter, you showed some griefers what happens when Karma comes calling.
You also showed some newbies (who may have been wondering by that point) that there are decent folks in EVE and that the griefers are the exception, not the norm.
Well done.
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Jaden Brock
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:50:00 -
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That was great!
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Nicole KholdStare
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Posted - 2006.04.25 20:55:00 -
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Aye well done 
That's gotta be embarassing hehe
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Poxia
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Posted - 2006.04.25 21:00:00 -
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Good story, and it's nice to know that we newbies often have people willing to stand up for us.
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Meroxx Firensech
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Posted - 2006.04.25 21:50:00 -
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real pirates dont do that type of stuff
well done!
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Superbus Maximus
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:21:00 -
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Haha shows what happens when you drop your guard.
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Sovy Kurosei
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:33:00 -
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Nicely done Niques. Kind of strange that the guy had a full rack of WCS though for the kind of griefing he was doing.
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Nyabinghi
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:34:00 -
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What the?!
Dang beat me to it.
Good show mate.
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.04.25 22:53:00 -
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Good job,
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Balklanac
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:02:00 -
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 Originally by: Sovy Kurosei
Nicely done Niques. Kind of strange that the guy had a full rack of WCS though for the kind of griefing he was doing.
That is strange, but good story, well written and paragraphed. I love SWA stories when they come up.
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Furion35
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:03:00 -
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I liked the story. Good work, nice surprise for cowardly griefers.
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Dahak2150
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:29:00 -
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Nice, very nice.
I would've paid to be there, or, even better, know their TS IP and pass so I could laugh at them.
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Na'Thuul
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Posted - 2006.04.25 23:35:00 -
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Excellent work indeed!
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Sarai Atvar
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Posted - 2006.04.26 03:02:00 -
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Things like this brighten my day.
Every time you kill a griefer, something something.
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Berak FalCheran
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Posted - 2006.04.26 03:31:00 -
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good read and good job
I make bizarre sigs
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Skidd Chung
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Posted - 2006.04.26 04:52:00 -
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Nice work
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.04.26 06:41:00 -
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Lol well done
And as other have said, real pirates dont do that... Concord doesn't let them into empire 
Alliaanna
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Iznogoud
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Posted - 2006.04.26 11:07:00 -
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Nicelly done.
Keep it going!
Grand Vizir Iznogoud L'Infame
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Wattish
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Posted - 2006.04.26 11:29:00 -
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Congratulations! the fact that you tied him down with that many stabs makes the victory that much sweeter :)
This is a great example that thinking > skillpoints which is something more newbies need to know about.
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Psyrex
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Posted - 2006.04.26 11:37:00 -
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Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii
real pirates dont do that... Concord doesn't let them into empire
Ha very true.
I can't remember the last time i was in empire.
Griefers deserve any punishment they get, even us pirates will provide advice/support if the target has turned out to be a decent person after an attack.
Nice story, well written and a good read.
Grats.
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Suladriel
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Posted - 2006.04.26 12:05:00 -
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LOL
Well done, and well told.
Those nubs deserved it.
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VeniVidi Vici
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Posted - 2006.04.26 12:17:00 -
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here here
thanks for sharing the story with us :)
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Zarithas
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Posted - 2006.04.26 12:34:00 -
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GJ. It once again proves that even unexperienced not too high SP players can still own players with more experience in SP. Unlike 90% of the other MMO's out there.
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Faith Black
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Posted - 2006.04.26 12:53:00 -
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Nice one.
Although I don't understand, how you were able to kill him without being attacked by concord. I mean, if the 'griefer' places cans as bait and a newbie takes from the can, the newbie gets flagged as a 'thief' and can be killed by the griefer without any consequences. The griefer doesn't become a free-for-all target, if he kills the newbie. Or do I miss something ?
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Suladriel
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Posted - 2006.04.26 13:10:00 -
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Originally by: Faith Black
Nice one.
Although I don't understand, how you were able to kill him without being attacked by concord. I mean, if the 'griefer' places cans as bait and a newbie takes from the can, the newbie gets flagged as a 'thief' and can be killed by the griefer without any consequences. The griefer doesn't become a free-for-all target, if he kills the newbie. Or do I miss something ?
You missed this bit :
Originally by: Niques Leutre
They were indeed trying to provoke newbies by taking every can in site, as well as dropping items as newbie bait. One of the pilots that requested help suggested that we take out the leader first, to send a warning to the rest of the corp about high-sec pirating. So, I told the other players to let Slaughter SteelGrave, the corp leader, take their cans and flag himself.
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Your bio looks much better in colour, and I haxed this sig. --Jorauk |
King Ozymandias
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Posted - 2006.04.26 13:46:00 -
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As a noob myself, I must say I'm greatful that there are people out there willing to help us learn the ropes instead of shoving them down our throats. I figure that Eve will only get better with more people, and griefing noobs just makes them cancel their accounts. Thanks for standing up for us, Niques.
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Niques Leutre
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Posted - 2006.04.26 17:51:00 -
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Edited by: Niques Leutre on 26/04/2006 17:52:47
Wow, had no idea this would attract so many replies. I guess people enjoy hearing about Karma catching up with people, and then kicking them in the manly bits... or therefore lack of.
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The fiercer the foe, the sweeter the salvage.
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MILL17331H 2190TEP
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Posted - 2006.04.26 20:17:00 -
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BZ!!! (Bravo Zulu) ... means job well done
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Miganto
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Posted - 2006.04.26 23:36:00 -
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well, what happened was.
Me and the other 2 nooblets (i was in a crow, 5 hour old trial) were gonna take him out as he killed another starter corp guy by doing that trick.
Seeing we were after his rifter. he got his ferox out and sat in a belt with his own cans around him wanting the other starters to pick something out of them so he could gank them.
we dropped off our crap loot near him just..cos we were bored, and he actually picked up some of it, he knew he could beat 2 condors and a vexor. This is when we asked for help, and along came niq.
we knew that as we were in the starter corp, we'd each need to get him to pick something up from our can to have him flagged, well we did, and niq did the same in his kessy i think. one of the condors scanned him, found out about all the stabs (really weird) but off niq went, got his lovely scorp, came back, and down the ferox went :)
my single small blaster made all the difference i tells ye :P
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Fadibah Jaynerk
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Posted - 2006.05.19 20:26:00 -
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Nice job, and don't underestimate small guns ;)
Originally by: Drahcir Nasom
I see Jita, Oursulaert and Rens as being like London, somewhere where you don't mind the crowds for the occasional bit of shopping, but you wouldn't want to live there.
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Duck Andcover
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Posted - 2006.05.19 20:46:00 -
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Indeed, never mess with newbie corps!
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duffmantt
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Posted - 2006.05.19 20:54:00 -
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yah mate nicely done
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.19 20:58:00 -
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heavies on scorp 
still, glad to see a noob grieftard die
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Hinterwaeldler
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Posted - 2006.05.20 11:43:00 -
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Are you aware that this very griefer, Slaughter SteelGrave, after months of doing this griefing, was still let into GoonFleet? Just check out his corp history ...
Originally by: Wattish
Congratulations! the fact that you tied him down with that many stabs makes the victory that much sweeter :)
This is a great example that thinking > skillpoints which is something more newbies need to know about.
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Samuel Hall
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Posted - 2006.05.20 13:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hinterwaeldler
Are you aware that this very griefer, Slaughter SteelGrave, after months of doing this griefing, was still let into GoonFleet? Just check out his corp history ...
Well that certainly sucks.
Goonfleet officially frowns on that sort of behavior, but unfortunately a corp that huge can't possibly do background research on everybody.
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Ovidiu Belicosus
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Posted - 2006.05.20 15:05:00 -
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great story :))
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.20 15:22:00 -
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Originally by: Hinterwaeldler
Are you aware that this very griefer, Slaughter SteelGrave, after months of doing this griefing, was still let into GoonFleet? Just check out his corp history ...
firstname lastname was in goonfleet too, and he's officially the biggest ****head in eve. If you look him up now, you'll see he's all alone in his corp called "nobody likes me"
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Stahlregen
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Posted - 2006.05.20 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Hinterwaeldler
Are you aware that this very griefer, Slaughter SteelGrave, after months of doing this griefing, was still let into GoonFleet? Just check out his corp history ...
firstname lastname was in goonfleet too, and he's officially the biggest ****head in eve. If you look him up now, you'll see he's all alone in his corp called "nobody likes me"
Hes still in the corp.
Originally by: "thedragoon"
ROFL have a good watch and eat your words o wise one
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Turiel Demon
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Posted - 2006.05.20 18:51:00 -
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OK... made me cringe to see a 1.5 month character flying a scorpion (moderately effectively), but a very nicely done job all teh same
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cytomatrix
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Posted - 2006.05.20 21:34:00 -
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I saw a Caldari Navy issue Raven outside a station in kisogo baiting noobs and kill rookie ships with torpedos. lol. And he was smack talking in local. How pathetic is that?
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ZzeusS
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Posted - 2006.05.20 21:58:00 -
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Why heavies? Why not cruise or torps?
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Cecil Montague
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Posted - 2006.05.20 22:21:00 -
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Respect to the OP. Good job.
Oh and Firstnamelastname was in lordless with Remedial before Goonfleet even existed. He was annoying then too.
Still Reme was OK and was kind enough to take his celestis up against my Retribtuion and give me my first solo kill.
And yes in hindsight taking that same Ret up against his Domi was really f**king stupid.
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Mecinia Lua
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Posted - 2006.05.21 06:29:00 -
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Originally by: ZzeusS
Why heavies? Why not cruise or torps?
I'm thinking the person in the scorp doesn't have the skills for cruise or torps yet, considering only month and a half old and in a Scorpion.
This was a great story though, good to see some folks getting the griefers.
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Dire Lauthris
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Posted - 2006.05.21 06:45:00 -
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Hehe excellent, nice work!
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Rar Faulen
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Posted - 2006.05.21 10:31:00 -
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Good Work mand and nicely written
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Trac3rt
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Posted - 2006.05.24 14:16:00 -
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Goonfleet does not condone scamming within the corp. While Firstname is in Goonfleet he will not be scamming anybody.
Also, the Firsntame Lastname character was sold to another Goon. It isn't the same person behind the wheels any more.
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nim TsuNim
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Posted - 2006.05.24 15:02:00 -
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Good job Niques and crew.
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Michelle Deathmind
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Posted - 2006.06.03 22:27:00 -
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Well done and bravo! Never doubt the miniscule frigates and their numerous fleets! ^_^
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Derelus
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Posted - 2006.06.04 03:16:00 -
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Great story, congrats to your victory.
Though there is one thing I must say that I hope you don't take offense to.
A month and a half old Scorpion pilot packing heavies makes me, I don't know, sad. Trust me when I say you would be much more effective in a cruiser or even a battlecruiser, packing the same heavies. With these "few" skillpoints of yours, flying cruisers/battlecruisers is cheaper to lose and more effective (bigger =/= better).
Unless of course your Scorpion is for showing-off purposes
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.06.04 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Trac3rt
Goonfleet does not condone scamming within the corp. While Firstname is in Goonfleet he will not be scamming anybody.
Also, the Firsntame Lastname character was sold to another Goon. It isn't the same person behind the wheels any more.
So the guy who managed to **** off half of EVE with his horrible jokes about Smoske's death no longer plays EVE?
Justice, I guess 
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Balklanac
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Posted - 2006.06.04 05:19:00 -
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I saw FL in local yesterday.Before that I saw thread that he died FL owner and now he has been sold. Hmmm
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Axel Vindislaga
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Posted - 2007.09.12 12:13:00 -
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I notice a lot of comments from privateers along these lines.... "Not what REAL pirates do?" What is a real pirate? A murdering stealing criminal. Thats what a pirate is. Don't try to pretend you have any ethics. My char is going to be a bounty hunter and anti pirate...I've been playing this game for less than the trial period. What the pirates don't grasp is that attacking rookies and making this virtual reality unpleasant is an attack on the world of EVE ONLINE. The lawless should stay in lawless territory and enjoy their brand of virtual reality which will help EVE grow. As for me...I'm scared of rats. not PVPers...
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Fafnir Drake
Gallente
Boob Heads
Haud Terminus
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Posted - 2007.09.12 13:18:00 -
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Want to rub it in?
Offer to sell him back the mods that survived. 
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Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.09.12 14:23:00 -
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great story, what EVE is all about.
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Arkyk
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Posted - 2007.09.12 18:16:00 -
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Originally by: Axel Vindislaga
I notice a lot of comments from privateers along these lines.... "Not what REAL pirates do?" What is a real pirate? A murdering stealing criminal. Thats what a pirate is. Don't try to pretend you have any ethics.
Steal what? What does a newbie in an Ibis have that you're going to retire on?
I'd definitely say he's not a "real" pirate. Pirates are in it for the cash and the excitement. Baiting newbies doesn't offer either. It may be amusing to some, certainly, but wanting to be amused != pirate.
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Susan Acid
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Posted - 2007.09.12 18:32:00 -
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Erm...check the date
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Haegr Bjolf
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.09.12 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: Haegr Bjolf on 12/09/2007 19:26:08
Necro! 
Nice story though.
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