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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:47:00 -
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Because this is just a game, and your in-game actions do not reflect your real world ones. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:51:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Because this is just a game, and your in-game actions do not reflect your real world ones. but your the same person!
Patrick Steward is the same person as Jean-Luc Picard? Amanda Tapping is the same person as Samantha Carter? Tara Strong is the same person as Twilight Sparkle?
Fascinating. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 21:56:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Because this is just a game, and your in-game actions do not reflect your real world ones. but your the same person! Patrick Stewart is the same person as Jean-Luc Picard? Amanda Tapping is the same person as Samantha Carter? Tara Strong is the same person as Twilight Sparkle? Fascinating. eve is a movie with pro actors? sory, i thought it was a game ppl play to relax and meet ppl sooooorry didnt realize lol
Lets try some Macbeth then.
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player that struts and frets his hour upon the stage And then is heard no more, it is a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:00:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote: wtf???? wat are u even saying!? lol
/thread Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:18:00 -
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You want to know what is really funny about these kinds of threads? The authors don't seem to realize that EVE is actually a game about friendship and cooperation.
If you want to do anything worth doing, you need to make friends. Whether this is industry, market manipulation, or PVP, having friends will make achieving the goal significantly easier. Consider any large alliance or coalition, they only control their space because they have so many people working together towards a common goal.
Just like in the real world, with friendship and hard work people can accomplish anything. There is strength and numbers, and having lots of people means you have a wide talent pool to draw from. And if the goal is worth achieving, there will be plenty of people who want to help make it happen.
On any given day I'd rather have friends than skill. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:22:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:if its all about firendship y is everyone an enemy with each other? its what im trying to ask to explain here and no ero im not goign to star citizen... at lest yet? lost alot of money preorder duke nukem and im not trusting devs with promises now
It would be foolish to think that every group is always going to get along with every other group. Like in real life. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:22:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:if its all about firendship y is everyone an enemy with each other? Where the **** ** ** ***** ******* * * ****** did you get it into your head that EVE is all about firendship? Who told you this? Are you 12?
Maybe he read my post Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:36:00 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Because this is just a game, and your in-game actions do not reflect your real world ones. Actually no. It absolutely reflects the players character. The player decides to be a pirate, a soldier, a thief, a miner, w/e. It doesn't happen by accident.
So you never played cops and robbers as a kid I take it? Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:41:00 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:You can try to separate your life and the characters. But in the end you created the player and you are playing the character. Don't be ashamed, its only a game.
Maybe your inability to separate reality from fantasy is your own problem? Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:44:00 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Claud Tiberius wrote:You can try to separate your life and the characters. But in the end you created the player and you are playing the character. Don't be ashamed, its only a game. Maybe your inability to separate reality from fantasy is your own problem? I have a problem with that?
Yes, since you cannot separate the character in the fictional world from the person in the real world. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:48:00 -
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Claud Tiberius wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Claud Tiberius wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Claud Tiberius wrote:You can try to separate your life and the characters. But in the end you created the player and you are playing the character. Don't be ashamed, its only a game. Maybe your inability to separate reality from fantasy is your own problem? I have a problem with that? Yes, since you cannot separate the character in the fictional world from the person in the real world. There is no rule saying I cant. If you don't like it, I don't care. Seems to me its your problem.
If you are unable to see that the character is going to behave differently from the person who plays it, then that is your problem not mine. It seems you are the one projecting your own problems onto the game. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:54:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:What we have here, is a failure of people realizing they are the product of their actions. So I take it you haven't realised that you're prejudiced yet, then?
People who are prejudiced tend to be slow to change their ways. Some never do. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 22:58:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: I wonder if Grand Theft Auto has a forum where people constantly post "Why you slap innocent Hoes, you must slap Hoes in real life" threads?
The funny thing is, many major news networks seem to believe that statement. Most of the flak that video games get is based on the assumption that people are going to behave the same way in real life as they do playing the video game.
It's the same flawed reasoning that gets movies, books, and television shows censored or outright banned. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:06:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote: It's as i said before, the 'bad' people of EVE are most likely the well adjusted adults who can keep a video game in proper context while the self proclaimed 'good' are simply the ones trying to mask how truly aweful they are deep down inside.
I've never seen anyone put it so well, I agree. I'll remember this quote when the topic returns in a few days. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:14:00 -
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Dain Rokjaw wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
You have a disconnect between cause and effect. There is a choice to treat people nicely. People who choose to treat people poorly are bad people because they are choosing to perform the action that distinguishes them as bad people.
I'm really sorry for anyone who has to interact with you, because you display a tendency to feel a disconnection between your actions and the effects it will cause.
You do understand the difference between player and character, between in real life and in a game... right?
The issue with his reasoning is that he does not. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:39:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote: People who do bad, are bad.
Once again you are failing to separate reality from fantasy. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:51:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:masternerdguy wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: People who do bad, are bad. Once again you are failing to separate reality from fantasy. And again you're insinuating that you are exempt from the reactions to your actions. How nice it must be, to live in a fairy tale where you get to pick and choose the consequences of your actions. #accountability
I used to be the head FC in a 650 man lo sec alliance so don't lecture me about accountability.
As for the rest of your post, I am not exempt from my actions in-game because in-game they have in-game consequences. Notice how I keep saying in-game, since EVE is just a game. Like cops and robbers.
In EVE, I am playing a character in another world. That character is not the same person who I am in my day to day life. You don't seem to be able to separate the game world from the real world, and some would call that a personality disorder. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.13 23:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:You justify a disconnection between your actions and your self however you wish. That is a deficiency in your character What do you base that claim on? Quote:You failing to understand that you're the person making your choices to have negative impacts on other real people indicates no fault in me, only in you. GǪexcept, of course, that he doesn't fail to understand that. That's just you being prejudiced. Does bluffing in poker make you a bad person and a compulsive liar?
He doesn't seem to want to answer that question Tippia, at your leisure may I suggest an alternative question?
Does playing a robber in the children's game cops and robbers make you a bad person? Does playing a cop in the children's game cops and robbers make you a good person? Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:32:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:[This time though, the robbers take the ball the kids are using to play kick ball. In the idea of making their own game within recess more enjoyable, they've allowed their desire to steal the ball OTHER kids, not part of their game within recess, were using to enjoy themselves in their own way. The robbers have stolen the ball and now the cops are trying to retrieve the ball and return it to the kick ballers. I can't see how taking something from someone not playing the game is in any way connected to EvE. How for example in EvE as a pirate can you reach into another game and steal something from someone? (That's the comparison you've portrayed in the quote) That isn't possible, nor makes any sense as a serious comparison. The only choices anyone can make are in game choices. They can't chose to steal from a player playing CoD online or any other game not connected to the rules of EvE. Because there's more than one way to play EVE. That's part of the appeal no? Non-linear, choice based game play. During recess, I get to choose if I want to explore the swings or if I want to mine for cat poop in the sand box.
This is where I see your reasoning break down. You are working under the assumption that EVE isn't one game but lots of smaller games put together under one name. This just isn't the case.
I pay my $15 a month to get access to log into the EVE server. I cannot choose to pay less and only mine, or only mission, or only PVP, because they are smaller subsets of the larger game called EVE Online.
In addition, even if you think you aren't affecting anyone else, you are. Whenever you buy, sell, or trade, you are manipulating the market for someone else. Whenever you mine, you are mining ore someone else could have mined. When you PVP, the repercussions are obvious. We are all interconnected, and no career in EVE exists in isolation.
In fact, CCP sells the game on this point as you can see in this trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08hmqyejCYU
EVE is the game. Mining, missioning, and PVP are just small parts of it. Therefore by logging in to the server you are joining the game, and all that entails. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.14 00:38:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote: Actually according to the accessibility through skill points, it kind of is multiple smaller games within one big game. A subscription doesn't grant you access to all the content. You make your choices based on how you wish to progress which defines clear distinctions between the different aspects of the game.
Incorrect. Anyone can train to fly a titan, it just takes a while. Just because it takes time to progress into a ship does not mean that the content is blocked off to you.
And the distinctions aren't so clear as evidenced by battle badgers, battle ventures, mining rokhs, and bait orcas. The ships and modules are just the tools, not the content itself. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:05:00 -
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I feel obligated to point out that just because someone doesn't respect you doesn't mean that their opinion is wrong. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:08:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:masternerdguy wrote:I feel obligated to point out that just because someone doesn't respect you doesn't mean that their opinion is wrong. and it doesn't mean it's right.
You are correct. Whether or not someone has respect for you as a person has no bearing on whether or not they are correct about the topic at hand. Attacking people for not respecting you is beside the point and irrelevant. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
masternerdguy
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Posted - 2014.03.14 01:23:00 -
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Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Kais Klip wrote:Aih-Li Tahn wrote:Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:Do gankers lose when they strike a prime target? the ppl who tried to awox my freighter and sucide gank my empty orca had zero to gain and something to lose. thats my question. why are there ppl who will go to any length to ruin other ppls game? or realy why so many, and im starting to beleive eve is full of very loud evil people.... sorry divine entervention i tried to stay positive but this thread shows i was wrong to try You misunderstand, for some your upset is the reward, this doesn't mean you should stop playing the game, rather stop being upset; have a laugh at your own misfortune and suddenly both parties are being entertained. Don't get me wrong, I play to have my own fun first and foremost, but a person turning around and saying they enjoyed the fight, that they learned from the loss or had more fun from it than they would have if they had won adds a sweet cherry on op of another cake. 'They' will keep having fun, why not join them in laughing? Now some cannot play with such legalised trolls, for lack of a better phrase, and they will have more fun in another game. If you fail to take heed to my advice, but still want to stick with eve, think of it this way; don't give them tears and they'll move on to find another watering hole. isnt that called stockhulm syndrome and its a bad thing?
No, Stockholm syndrome when you feel sympathy for the people holding you hostage. Things are only impossible until they are not. |
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