quite absurd that ppl realise that they got scammed, when they are told to have "absolute faith" in the scammer.

I am in Jita most of the time and has over 2k plus scammers blocked and there are hundreds of new ones every day (truth be told, Jita is the cesspool of eve), but hey, if you don't want to play their game or listen to them then block. I think its funny people still fall for all the same old scams over and over agin

Well I think the OP has a point. CCP can just ban people they don't perceive as healthy for the community. They choose not to purely as a means of maximizing subscription amounts.

I've unsubscribed for 6 months and counting as a result; spend an extra few hours a month grinding to make the ISK instead. I have no issue throwing $500 a year at this game as I play it often enough, but I can't support High School Online when the principals aren't expelling anyone. Hopefully other people do the same; unsubscribe and list the reason as, "mistreating people in your game has no repercussions".

Maybe when they have to fire another 20% of their staff, they'll realize they need to actually do something.

Well, yes.

The best scams play on the fact that for a number of people, greed overrides good sense. I'm not sure what CCP can or should do about that.

Yeah. Go out in March Madness, clothesline a driving point-guard, and as his bench clears (heading in your direction) turn to the ref and tell him that. "It's just a game." THEN, find a good dentist to get those new caps. "It's just a game."

I'll tell you who says "It's just a game." Idiots. But, then, if you can figure out how to keep an idiot quiet, let us know. Nobel might even invent a special prize just for you.

*Grabs her nine-mil and heads out for football practice.*

some ppl cant realise that morals are not for situation and dont vanish when theirs a game in the middle. it sux

Yeah. Go out in March Madness, clothesline a driving point-guard, and as his bench clears (heading in your direction) turn to the ref and tell him that. "It's just a game." THEN, find a good dentist to get those new caps. "It's just a game."

I'll tell you who says "It's just a game." Idiots. But, then, if you can figure out how to keep an idiot quiet, let us know. Nobel might even invent a special prize just for you.

*Grabs her nine-mil and heads out for football practice.*

Yeah. Go out in March Madness, clothesline a driving point-guard, and as his bench clears (heading in your direction) turn to the ref and tell him that. "It's just a game." THEN, find a good dentist to get those new caps. "It's just a game."

I'll tell you who says "It's just a game." Idiots. But, then, if you can figure out how to keep an idiot quiet, let us know. Nobel might even invent a special prize just for you.

*Grabs her nine-mil and heads out for football practice.*

Is clotheslining people in basketball within the rules of the game? It's not as far as I know, doing so is not even part of the game, so the "it's just a game" argument is moot.

In Eve however pretty much anything goes, if CCP are fine with it then it's within the rules of the game, and thus part of the game. We can therefore rightfully claim that despite the tears that it's just a game, because we've abided by the rules in effect.

The naivity of the victims his unbelievable for me, however pulling ppl out into to TS and out of EvE got me upset. I even see then fun part in it, but doing that for -hours- and then blaming the victims further at their websides is quite a lot.

So is that still EvE?

In Eve however pretty much anything goes, if CCP are fine with it then it's within the rules of the game, and thus part of the game.

Thats my Point:
In EvE
This is pulled out of EvE and commpletly handled in TS and thats not fine anymore.
TheMittani got kicked for his drunktalk.

This guy humiliations got so far, i would be afraid to get my real name in the open RLif i would be him.
Thats what i mean, the "game" has to stop.

Be evil in eve but leave it there.

into teamspeak and torture those people for 4-5 hours, i think CCP tolerates quite heavy missbehaviour.
The scam is...

...it was only a matter of time before someone got plastered enough to take it a little too far.

How can you be a victim of giving someone else your money?

Could you perhaps explain how you think CCP are to control what goes on in out-of-game tools like Teamspeak.

I hear this quite often when bad behaviour is beeing excused in chats and postings.
Well, yes, thats true, but even the participation in Online Games has repercussions in RL. Yes it IS a game, but real People are sitting on the other side of the monitors playing this game. Being connected to the characters in game.
What am i up to?

EvE is EvE a place where people can scam, gank, grief. Steal your trust and assets and ruin years of (real lifes) work.
You should know that when you play the game.

But:
When i see a certain scammer calling him "the only legit ISK doubler" i see someone who takes people out of eve, forces them into teamspeak and torture those people for 4-5 hours, i think CCP tolerates quite heavy missbehaviour.
The scam is, that you want to double the ISK you are told that you "won a bonus round", but only after you already sent the money. You are told the bonusround is won by beeing the 100thd double job, which is a lie.
legit? does the bio explain the won "bonus round"?
quite absurd that ppl do not realise that they got scammed, when they are told to have "absolute faith" in the scammer.
Absolute faith? in eve?
more absurdity, to continue you have to come into ts, give all assets to trusted ppl in the chat and give your API keys away.
After that, those victims do almost everything "voluntarily" since they have everything given away and rules are made up like the guys like.
New Eden is a harsh world, but this isn't a part of EvE anymore. EvE is abused to torture naive gamers for hours and force them to give up their dignity. The "Game" at that moment happens in RL and EvE is just a Tool for abuse.

Some ppl have such a major social misalignement, that even CCP shouldnt tolerate or overlook.

Thats what i am talking of.
When will it be to far?

Victims of their own greed and naivity.
As i said absurd:
In EvE asking for absolute faith?
What?
Give away *all* my assets and my ingame info on rules that havent been merly specified to have "faith"?
Thats stupid.

However:
If you are violating someones dignity so deeply, you create a lot of out of game hatred.

I am not talking of absolute control, but if cases get known and documented CCP should take a careful look.
But i see, you agree, TS is "out of Game (EvE)"

Thats my Point:
In EvE
This is pulled out of EvE and commpletly handled in TS and thats not fine anymore.
TheMittani got kicked for his drunktalk.

This guy humiliations got so far, i would be afraid to get my real name in the open RLif i would be him.
Thats what i mean, the "game" has to stop.

Be evil in eve but leave it there.

But when the scams get very complex and no longer are about the ISK ... when they involve humiliating the player out of game, or feature out-of-game websites (such as the EVE-Bazaar.com scam), and DEFINITELY when they involve posting RL pictures, that's when I believe CCP needs to step in and shut the behavior down. Large, wide strikes with the ban hammer heartily encouraged.