Right now it is easier to just give RL moneys to your enemies than it is to pay for a war. Between us our last war cost about $1000 between PLEX and Russian forum dues.

This new griefer corp wants a $600 visa gift card, and some of our busier alliance mates have offered to pay. As a matter of principle I had to decline looks like another collection will be taken.

War is ISK and ISK is money.

CCP please find a way to reduce the RL financial burden of operations in null, doing work in-house rather than dumping RL money in Jita and praying the JF makes it thirteen trips a month.

Getting rid of sovereignty payments would go a long way in the right direction.


Sw

Right now it is easier

Right now it is easier to just give RL moneys to your enemies than it is to pay for a war. Between us our last war cost about $1000 between PLEX and Russian forum dues.

This new griefer corp wants a $600 visa gift card, and some of our busier alliance mates have offered to pay. As a matter of principle I had to decline looks like another collection will be taken.

War is ISK and ISK is money.

CCP please find a way to reduce the RL financial burden of operations in null, doing work in-house rather than dumping RL money in Jita and praying the JF makes it thirteen trips a month.

Getting rid of sovereignty payments would go a long way in the right direction.


Sw

This has got to be trolling, right? If you take Eve so seriously that you will part with RL cash to prevent a war, then you either need to man up and learn how to defend your space, or admit you're not well equipped enough to defend your space and get the hell out of Dodge (or whatever system you are in). And then stop paying stupid money and go get a life. What happens if you don't pay them? They blow your widdle ships up? Awww.

WHAT???

The bad crazy goes beyond dropping 100 large on internet spaceships, though. About two years ago, Goonswarm was aiding our allies, Red Alliance (RA, the aforementioned 'rats' with whom SirLordex is cross) in the invasion of the Scalding Pass region against Lotka Volterra and their coalition. Lotka Volterra had unveiled one of the first Titans against us to catastrophic consequences, and at the time these profoundly silly ships were nearly impossible to kill through legitimate in-game means; they were essentially invulnerable, with the only Titans destroyed through catching the ship while the pilot was disconnected from the game. It was determined that 'The Enslaver' and his Avatar-class Titan had to go. I was approached by one of the leaders of Red Alliance to help make this happen, but almost immediately we were down the rabbit hole. Much to my surprise, the RA director didn't want in-game information from me; he wanted us to use the forensic resources of our intelligence agency to trace down The Enslaver's home address. At a coordinated time, armed with this information, a RA member would apparently cut the power to The Enslaver's house in the real world, and in EVE a RA capital fleet would assault the abruptly pilotless Titan. Yikes. (from article at TenTonHammer)

Colour me unsurprised. It's a whole other game out in Mother Russia. Real-world crime and in-game crime sort of blend together.

Who knew "$ 600 visa" and "45 PLEX" were so similar in Russian. :-P

I didn't know State War Academy held 0.0 player sov. The things you learn on the forums

Forum alt...best alt.

Anonymous extortion accusations.... best extortion accusations

This new griefer corp wants a $600 visa gift card, and some of our busier alliance mates have offered to pay. As a matter of principle I had to decline looks like another collection will be taken.

I'm not surprised. The whole PLEX thing made this game vulnerable to these kinds of things already years ago.

And people wonder why more people don't want to go to null.

The part that ruins it is, if we fight and "win" we hold sovereignty for a few months longer. If we pay we get blue status and our 10 month ROI on sovereignty is almost a certain payout.

Right now it is easier to just give RL moneys to your enemies than it is to pay for a war. Between us our last war cost about $1000 between PLEX and Russian forum dues.

This new griefer corp wants a $600 visa gift card, and some of our busier alliance mates have offered to pay. As a matter of principle I had to decline looks like another collection will be taken.

War is ISK and ISK is money.

CCP please find a way to reduce the RL financial burden of operations in null, doing work in-house rather than dumping RL money in Jita and praying the JF makes it thirteen trips a month.

Getting rid of sovereignty payments would go a long way in the right direction.


Sw

And people wonder why more people don't want to go to null.