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Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.03.17 23:36:00 -
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Revelation. T2 siege, T1 ammo.
EFT says 4880 DPS, Pyfa says 4880 DPS. Good. 1x HS: EFT 5998, Pyfa 5927 2x HS: EFT 7174, Pyfa 6894 3x HS: EFT 8067, Pyfa 7541
So there's a problem with HS damage/rof mod, or stacking with Siege mod.
Manually calculating DPS increase upon fitting first HS takes DPS from 4880 to 5998. Suggests EFT has it right, Pyfa has a bug somewhere. Maybe interaction of Siege and HS damage mods?
Same result seen with Naglfar.
Will check on Sisi when it finishes patching... |
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.03.18 00:13:00 -
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Naglfar on Sisi, 3x T2 gyro, T2 siege, T1 ammo: readout says 9139 DPS. EFT says 9139 DPS, excluding reloads. Pyfa says 8543 DPS, excluding reloads.
Conclusion: Pyfa is wrong. |
Mr Hyde113
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2014.03.18 07:05:00 -
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Regardless of any minor differences in numbers between the fitting tools, there is still a very real difference in performance between the Moros/Nag and the Rev/Phoenix. |
Rab See
Fool Mental Junket
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Posted - 2014.03.18 09:08:00 -
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Gypsio III wrote:Naglfar on Sisi, 3x T2 gyro, T2 siege, T1 ammo: readout says 9139 DPS. Manually calculated DPS from turret/ammo show-infos is 9143 DPS. Difference is attributed to rounding.
EFT says 9139 DPS, excluding reloads. Pyfa says 8543 DPS, excluding reloads.
Conclusion: Pyfa is wrong.
Yes - seeing diff - but relative values are the same. |
Luwc
Easy Co. Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2014.03.18 09:56:00 -
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Meh
Phoenix does its job...
Bashing posses.
What basicaly 90% of dreads usualy do.
Rev is fine as well considering Tank/DPS/Tracking
Thank you good bye. |
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.03.18 11:05:00 -
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Rab See wrote:Gypsio III wrote:Naglfar on Sisi, 3x T2 gyro, T2 siege, T1 ammo: readout says 9139 DPS. Manually calculated DPS from turret/ammo show-infos is 9143 DPS. Difference is attributed to rounding.
EFT says 9139 DPS, excluding reloads. Pyfa says 8543 DPS, excluding reloads.
Conclusion: Pyfa is wrong. Yes - seeing diff - but relative values are the same.
Well, maybe, but your argument was based on these numbers:
Revelation: 6913 - Gamma Naglfar: 5577 - Depleted Uranium Moros: 5964 - Iridium Phoenix: 7862 - 58k
which simply aren't realistic at 30-35 km. |
Blodhgarm Dethahal
Transcendent Sedition Dustm3n
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Posted - 2014.03.18 13:51:00 -
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My Revelation does fine compared to my Moros, as a matter of fact I seem to be more cap stable in my Rev than Moros. The Revelation's strong natural capacitor helps alot (same for alot of Amarr ships).
Granted I have Amarr Dread 5 so that helps but.. *shrugs* I do enjoy my Revelation. -Bl+¦d |
Gypsio III
Questionable Ethics. Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
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Posted - 2014.03.18 14:05:00 -
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Blodhgarm Dethahal wrote:My Revelation does fine compared to my Moros, as a matter of fact I seem to be more cap stable in my Rev than Moros. The Revelation's strong natural capacitor helps alot (same for alot of Amarr ships).
Yeah, the Rev's guns are less cap-hungry than those of the Moros - 24.6 cap/s vs. 28.7 cap/s with three T2 damage mods, and it has the larger cap pool too. The Rev should be better in a prolonged engagement, but I don't think the difference is that significant really. |
Mr Hyde113
Mind Games. Suddenly Spaceships.
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Posted - 2014.03.20 17:21:00 -
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Let me be clear, IMO the Rev 's main "problem" lies in the power creep of the Moros followed by the Nag, which makes it an un- competitive choice for pilots. It has simply fallen behind the times as its turret competitors were buffed to a higher tier, and deserves to be updated as well. This is fairly easy since CCP has already started phasing out the capacitor usage bonuses for Amarr, which could be replaced with something to fix the problem.
The phoenix's main problem on the other hand has to do with the damage application of citadels, and to an extent being pin holed into kinetic. |
Justin Cody
AQUILA INC Verge of Collapse
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Posted - 2014.03.20 19:31:00 -
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Juan Thang wrote:Revelation is ok as it is, range is better than a moros, and can be as much as a rail fit moros while just fit with pulses, Dps is good for the range it has and the cap works fine if you fit it ok. Ive been in plenty of bashes in a rev and its performed fine.
Pheonix just has a problem with its weapons.
You're high.
The moros has superior tracking, similar range and far higher dps. Plus a viable shield tank and superior dps at all levels. The Revelation is the least damaging dread of all of them on paper and the phoenix the least dpsing in terms of shooting things that matter. |
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