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Mitchman
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:14:00 -
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Edited by: Mitchman on 28/04/2006 12:18:03
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:17:00 -
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Do you believe everything you find on the net?
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Alliaanna Dalaii
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:18:00 -
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I read on the net Blue Monkeys where going to take over the world 
I now own a rifle... (seriously  )
Alliaanna
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Obmud
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:18:00 -
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how sad is that... :((((((
I can completely understand his anger but after all it's not EVE's nor CCP's fault when people start to take a game that serious. Thats actually the real problem there.
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:18:00 -
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Don't trust everything you read on newsgroups... but if that's true, the kid had bigger problems than EVE.
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AlleyKat
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:19:00 -
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 Originally by: Dark Shikari
Don't trust everything you read on newsgroups... but if that's true, the kid had bigger problems than EVE.
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Ki Lee
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:21:00 -
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Found this in the newsgroup comp.sys.ibm.pc.games.space-sim. It's very disturbing:
Recently my son, Jack, committed suicide after loosing the account he worked on for about two years on Eve-online.
We played Eve as a family, my son and my daughter and I. We had three accounts but we operated them all together on the same network. Often I'd have to kick my daughter off as she liked playing my main so much, as he had about 35 million skill points. My son's account had 32 million skill points. Together we had about 20 billion in assets.
All three of our accounts were banned. This was my fault. I had bought, using game isk, an character in game. A dispute arose over this purchase. Shortly after that, suddenly and without any warning, all three of our accounts were banned. We received no emails. I asked in a
question on the Eve site why were we all banned?
The response was they had "irrefutable proof" that we had purchased an "account" on Ebay. Well, we don't even have accounts on Ebay at all. I checked the computer to see if any other account names had been logged in, and there were none. The only thing I could think of was the
character I bought in game.
The GM's confirmed this was indeed the case. But they remain convinced that the character (not account) was purchased on Ebay. All my attempts to explain to them otherwise have met with no response.
My son was upset by this, but we had no idea how upset he was. Several weeks ago he took a kitchen knife and cut his own throat with it. I have been unable to do anything but try and hold my family together all this time. I feel responsible for it and I've been very upset.
Why am I baring my soul like this? Why am I telling people like this about our loss?
I think the way we were treated by Eve-online and the GM's was mean spirited. We were guilty until proven innocent, but no opportunity was given to prove our innocense. These accounts meant a great deal to all
of us, but it had become a way of life for my son. Playing Eve was about all he did, and I realize now that it was unhealthy, but I also spent a huge amount of my life building those accounts. This is something I won't get over soon. The loss of my son puts it all in perspective. The game means nothing to me now. I hope CCP and Eve-online all go to hell for the way they treated my family.
I am hoping that in the future, perhaps, customers of these games will be given more rights only because we put so much blood, sweat and tears into these accounts that it is just cruel to ban people outright without so much as an explanation.
Yes, it happened, and yes I failed miserably as his father. We all got into the game together as a family, and now, what at one time seemed like a great idea, is so horrible to me I can hardly face it.
The reason I posted it here is I am hoping that some decent people will actually, eventually, do something about this. What happened was unfair and wrong. Yes, it was a lot my fault but at the same time, Eve is JUST a game afterall. Do we have to be so mean about it?
EVE is all fouled up. The GM's don't listen to you. I tried to explain that we don't have accounts on Ebay nor do we buy stuff there. But they dont' care. They don't care that my son died. It's just too horrible
for me to face.
well if this is true then i feel sorry for them, but to put any sort of blame onto ccp is just silly. This family obviously had issues.
My gut feeling is that its most likely somone whos had there account banned and they are just trying to get some bad publiscity againt them, but thats just my oppinion.
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.04.28 12:52:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 28/04/2006 12:52:49
I don't know much about suicides, but if that's true then the selected method of suicide seems extremely unusual.
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.04.28 13:11:00 -
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and you're seriously telling me that this WOULDN'T be in all the papers by now? If some guy in korea can die after 4 days solid gaming and get world coverage, I think a guy killing himself because of getting banned would certainly do...
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.04.28 13:15:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 28/04/2006 13:15:30
Originally by: Sensor Error
and you're seriously telling me that this WOULDN'T be in all the papers by now? If some guy in korea can die after 4 days solid gaming and get world coverage, I think a guy killing himself because of getting banned would certainly do...
It will probably get to the papers sooner or later whether true or not. The source control isn't that good in many cases.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.04.28 13:16:00 -
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This very same story (without the suicide) was posted on the mmorpg.com forums about one to two months ago.
Let's say that I didn't beleive it then, and do much less so now.
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M3ta7h3ad
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Posted - 2006.04.28 13:20:00 -
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I am pretty sure if he was a father of a child who killed himself because of a game... he'd be more ****ed off than a "yes I know I failed him".
Dont believe the method of suicide either.
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Rod Blaine
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Posted - 2006.04.28 13:25:00 -
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Went back and found a thread with remarkable similarities in the wording as well as posting style on mmorpg.com.
You can read it here
Can't be sure it's the same guy, but it sure sounds like him.
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drunkenmaster
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Posted - 2006.04.28 13:29:00 -
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What would have happened if CCP shut the servers down? I dread to think.
(if any of this was true, ofc)
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Scorpyn
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Posted - 2006.04.28 13:31:00 -
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Edited by: Scorpyn on 28/04/2006 13:36:43
Originally by: drunkenmaster
What would have happened if CCP shut the servers down? I dread to think.
(if any of this was true, ofc)
Considering the method of suicide it's probably more likely to be murder than an actual suicide, if there is any truth whatsoever in the story.
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Farbar
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Posted - 2006.04.28 13:32:00 -
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oh ftlog, this prank is older then EQ.
All MMO's I've ever tried has seen this numerous times.
A conserned mother/brother/close friend/uncle/albatross posts on a mmo related board that their son/brother/close friend/nephew/mongoose has killed him/her/itself due to ingame grieving/bad decisions/deceit/loss of pubes.
Nothing to see here, move along please...
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Crumplecorn
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Posted - 2006.04.28 14:05:00 -
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Edited by: Crumplecorn on 28/04/2006 14:05:44
"Don't play Eve, the GMs are so mean my son killed himself over it"
Funniest thing I've seen in a long time.
Originally by: drunkenmaster
What would have happened if CCP shut the servers down? I dread to think.
ROFLMAO
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kieron
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:15:00 -
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I cannot neither confirm nor deny the claims made by the individual in the newsgroup post regarding the events took place. However, when this incident was brought to my attention by the GM team, I researched the account owner's billing information and called the coroner's office in the city on record. They did not have any information that matched the account details. I have not been contacted by the person that made post to the newsgroup.
Now, before anyone replies with a 'pwned!' or 'Fake!', please keep in mind that the billing information may be incorrect, the coroner was mistaken, or a whole range of other possibilities. This is one of those cases where we won't know until contacted or more information is released. I do know the GMs handling the case were very shaken up by the possibility that this did transpire as stated.
kieron
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mazzilliu
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:24:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 28/04/2006 21:24:06
wow fast responce
"GMs dont listen" lol
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:24:00 -
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I hope it's not true...
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Velsharoon
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:27:00 -
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hope its not true thanks kieron and the other researchers, puts my mind at rest felt awful reading it
Need a new sig :/
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:28:00 -
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I also spent a huge amount of my life building those accounts. This is something I won't get over soon. The loss of my son puts it all in perspective.
i was fairly severely sceptical about this entire story, but this one line just fails to convince so horribly it hurts. The loss of your son puts how much the game was worth to you into perspective? The "This is something I won't get over soon" refers to the time you spent building your accounts, not the time you spent nurturing your son? Severe problems there, matey.
As for the kid, if he killed himself over a game account, he has much more severe issues than a game can ever account for, and even if he had never been banned, he could never have lived happily ever after.
I severely doubt this story (particularly given Kieron's info), but if it is really true, i give my comisserations to all those involved, and I hope that no-one else makes the same mistakes. Remember kids, its just a game.
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Max Tesla
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:32:00 -
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Fake or not this could all be avoided if ccp would have just listened to my idea that I brought them some months ago
That is that ALL Character transfers must be signed with real contracts on real paper sent to the original owner and the buyer of the character. And this would ofcurse cost money for the buyer and/or seller. But it would prevent account theft and possible suicides.
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Bhaal
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Max Tesla
Fake or not this could all be avoided if ccp would have just listened to my idea that I brought them some months ago
That is that ALL Character transfers must be signed with real contracts on real paper sent to the original owner and the buyer of the character. And this would ofcurse cost money for the buyer and/or seller. But it would prevent account theft and possible suicides.
EVE doesn't cause suicides. ppl with emotional problems are the cause of that...
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Talori'i
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:35:00 -
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http://mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/72112
This one looks very similar. Looks to me like someone trying to push an agenda. But who knows. Its something I wish there was more information on.
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Rutoo
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:36:00 -
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kieron you can call me anytime even if you just wanna chat :P
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:41:00 -
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Gotta be fake, and whoever wrote that is a sick, sick person tbh.
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Kadrush
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:44:00 -
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Its a strange story with a strange method of suicide.
I would also get really mad if that happens to me, but instead of killing myself I would go to the justice and see what happens. Also if you bought a character you did something illegal, that causes losses to the other honest players and you deserve to be punished.
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Rider Zane
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Posted - 2006.04.28 21:52:00 -
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Edited by: Rider Zane on 28/04/2006 21:54:33
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I also spent a huge amount of my life building those accounts. This is something I won't get over soon. The loss of my son puts it all in perspective.
I don't believe it either from reading that. I'm sorry but if you've lost a loved one, you dont tag them onto the end of a sentence when talking about how much life time you put into game accounts.
Anyway, EULA is there for a reason, if you break the rules you get banned. Whatever you choose to do after getting banned is no ones fault but your own. After all, you agree to the terms of EULA to play. Don't blame CCP for enforcing thier rules.
btw, statistically, suicides involving slicing ones own throat are rare. And if you believe its common you have been watching too many movies.
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Jin Jemai
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Posted - 2006.04.28 22:07:00 -
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It's a load of crap is what it is. No father would be in a calm enough state of mind to write something like that after his son killing himself, this is obviously just a cheap shot at CCP because he got caught doing something he shouldnt have.
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