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I LIKE IT
HIGH RISK INVESTMENT
162
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Posted - 2014.03.18 17:48:00 -
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RESERVED FOR PART ONE OF MY RESPONSE
TO PART TWO OF YOUR RESPONSE
TO MY ACCUSATION OF YOU BEING A PONCE |

Koniforous
Tauren Transit My Other Laboratory is a Distillery
13
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Posted - 2014.03.18 18:35:00 -
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Setsune Rin wrote:Koniforous wrote:As soon as I read this I started chuckling. Not at the idea, but how funny it was that you cleverly absorbed so many different policies from so many recent lending and banking start-ups posting on the MD forums as of late. +1 for the brilliant sarcasm  2 questions: Will I be forced to rub mayonnaise all over my chest and send in a pic of this, to open an account? Or will I be required to contract all of my assets and funds over first, as a show of faith? it's staggering how bad you are at self reflection you are basically doing the exact same thing as erotica here only with some sort of superiority complex what makes him illegitimate and you trustworthy? for all the good either one of you are doing at least he is amusing and not nearly as long winded (aka you post to many words that say nothing and are boring)
I never said he was illegitimate, but from the way he worded everything and mixed in all those wonderful pieces from other threads, I assumed this was some sort of silly parody post.
5% Interest Rate on all investments.-áRead the forum thread here, for more info: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=322582&find=unread |

Kate 'on
DevonCorp
7
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Posted - 2014.03.18 22:55:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:If only EVE would allow you to take out a mortgage on your characters... then your bank could provide credit to bonus room customers allowing them to take full advantage of the opportunity (instead of being limited by the assets they have at hand).
Such a great potential for synergy ruined by CCP's inability to implement a proper mortgage & debt collection process.
Until it becomes impossible to biomass your char and start another one, move your assets to other character, etc. debt is irrelevant.
Find a way for CCP to keep you account tied to you, not your account, not your char, but you, and keep the game interesting enough for you not to quit, and maybe,.,..
Erotica 1 wrote:Well I encourage any doubters to Google me. My motivations are not primarily isk, otherwise I wouldn't conduct bonus rounds that sometimes take 5-10 hours for so little possible gain. I'd be better off running missions.
The board would not include any sociopaths, I assure you. Look, this won't be for everyone, I understand. I'm looking for open-minded investors and clients who would like to have a front seat to an exciting ride of EVE content creation.
If you are afraid this is a scam, then I don't really want your isk as it would be clearly too much for you to risk.
*edit* If I got bored with it or was away from game, the board would either replace me or follow the predetermined rules for winding down the bank, paying back clients and investors.
I don't think you understand whom the board would consist of. Only the most trusted names in the game would be invited to the board, not random nobodies.
*edit 2* That came out wrong- I did not mean any offense if you are random and no one knows who you are.
Again, who are you, who is your board, and if you cannot give punch to the face levels of trust, why are you even seriously discussing this?
Actually, I'll roll with it, I'm a not so prominent blogger, I'll be on your board, you can trust me, I have another char thats well like in the nulsec community, and have excellent financial savvy. Lets do this. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1334
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Posted - 2014.03.18 23:33:00 -
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Kate 'on wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:If only EVE would allow you to take out a mortgage on your characters... then your bank could provide credit to bonus room customers allowing them to take full advantage of the opportunity (instead of being limited by the assets they have at hand).
Such a great potential for synergy ruined by CCP's inability to implement a proper mortgage & debt collection process. Until it becomes impossible to biomass your char and start another one, move your assets to other character, etc. debt is irrelevant. Find a way for CCP to keep you account tied to you, not your account, not your char, but you, and keep the game interesting enough for you not to quit, and maybe,.,.. You don't understand my thought process.
Imagine you had sent ISK to Erotica and she opens a conversation window with you, telling you that you are her 100th customer and have been invited into the bonus room. You quickly recap the bonus room rules (show faith by following all her instructions and receive back 5x your total assets, fail her and lose everything) and realize immediately that this is a once in a lifetime opportunity! But oh no you are notoriously ill equipped for this singular opportunity because you are almost broke and even five times nothing does still amount to nothing :(
Erotica Banking Services to the rescue! With just a few keystrokes you have arranged to take out a mortgage on your 5 year-old main character. At a reasonable interest rate and for a very modest processing fee you are flush with cash in an instant. Now you can take advantage of this splendid opportunity!
If you win you can easily pay back the loan and if you should lose Erotica Banking Services can initiate foreclosure on your character within the hour (having just lost all your assets you won't be able to repay the loan - unless you have been holding back in which case it is no wonder that you lost, you dirty cheater! people like you give this game a bad name!) , the character passes into the property of Erotica Banking Services and will then undergo Erotica's rigorous scientific testing procedures or find some other application.
As you see there is no need for anything fancy like linking accounts to rl identities or preventing you from biomassing to enable this wonderful win-win scenario. All that is required is for CCP to implement a simple mortgage contract that accepts characters for collateral.
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Mara Denais
Shadow Runners.
39
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Posted - 2014.03.18 23:48:00 -
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It's Erotica 1.
How the hell did this thread gain traction  |

TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
199
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:02:00 -
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Mara Denais wrote:It's Erotica 1. How the hell did this thread gain traction 
Its simple, there are several people in EVE sitting on huge amount of money, that want to leverage it in the market. As long as no bank is in existence, this is a job in itself. With a bank, the lever is in hands of that banker, you just can sit back and do other things in EVE. |

Mara Denais
Shadow Runners.
39
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:20:00 -
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TheSmokingHertog wrote:Mara Denais wrote:It's Erotica 1. How the hell did this thread gain traction  Its simple, there are several people in EVE sitting on huge amount of money, that want to leverage it in the market. As long as no bank is in existence, this is a job in itself. With a bank, the lever is in hands of that banker, you just can sit back and do other things in EVE.
It's Erotica 1. The people you're talking about have both the isk and know better. So my question stands.
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TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
199
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:25:00 -
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Mara Denais wrote:TheSmokingHertog wrote:Mara Denais wrote:It's Erotica 1. How the hell did this thread gain traction  Its simple, there are several people in EVE sitting on huge amount of money, that want to leverage it in the market. As long as no bank is in existence, this is a job in itself. With a bank, the lever is in hands of that banker, you just can sit back and do other things in EVE. It's Erotica 1. The people you're talking about have both the isk and know better. So my question stands.
I didn't answer the trust part, since you were asking about the WHY of the thread interest, this is WHY. As long there is no decent lever in the game that makes it possible to work silent money, grendell and some others work hard for another mans isk, but when a bank would come it, it would make everyone work their own corner. It would be a far heather lever as the ones offered now.
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Mara Denais
Shadow Runners.
39
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:26:00 -
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"Erotica 1" wrote:2014.03.18 08:47 EVE Bank Board of Directors Indications of Interest
From: Erotica 1 To: The Mittani, Istvaan Shogaatsu, James 315
So. Lol? 0/10
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Mara Denais
Shadow Runners.
39
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Posted - 2014.03.19 00:27:00 -
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TheSmokingHertog wrote:Mara Denais wrote:TheSmokingHertog wrote:Mara Denais wrote:It's Erotica 1. How the hell did this thread gain traction  Its simple, there are several people in EVE sitting on huge amount of money, that want to leverage it in the market. As long as no bank is in existence, this is a job in itself. With a bank, the lever is in hands of that banker, you just can sit back and do other things in EVE. It's Erotica 1. The people you're talking about have both the isk and know better. So my question stands. I didn't answer the trust part, since you were asking about the WHY of the thread interest, this is WHY. As long there is no decent lever in the game that makes it possible to work silent money, grendell and some others work hard for another mans isk, but when a bank would come it, it would make everyone work their own corner. It would be a far heather lever as the ones offered now.
You did NOT answer my question. But then again, you're just trolling aren't you.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4379
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Posted - 2014.03.19 05:28:00 -
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Sorry, I have spent the evening writing a poem for the limerick contest. I'll address the questions in detail soon. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1337
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:43:00 -
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The Chinese imperial examinations included the composition of poetry, maybe we should make potential bankers undergo similar scrutiny. |

Nedly Stark
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
15
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Posted - 2014.03.19 07:49:00 -
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While most people in this thread, and MD in general genuinely HATE banks and they think the idea of banks are hideously outrageous and shouldn't even be mentioned.. If you were seriously serious about seriously operating a bank you could just avoid this whole 'im going to run a bank' idea and just instead call it the 'erotica loaning whatever' service (think of a more fancy name later). Forgo the financial scrutiny of the name "bank", don't go with the miserable idea of taking "deposits" for "low rates". Just lend out your isk into individuals who seek loans, come up with your own loaning policies on who you will lend your isk to, and overtime gain income via interest paid off from loans that you have given. In essence you will have created the most basic means that this game can cater to in terms of a bank.
I appreciate the fact that you attempt this idea using your reputation as a tool for trust, but unfortunately so many have ruined it for the very few who might be able to make it work. In my opinion, do what I suggested. Or just continue down this hard long path of nothing but discouragement - continue getting grilled by all naysayers & skeptical forum goers. Just my 2 cents.
Inb4 "Ned shut up you new kid". |

Far Wanderer
Bank of Far
14
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Posted - 2014.03.19 08:40:00 -
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Nedly Stark wrote:In essence you will have created the most basic means that this game can cater to in terms of a bank. Tee hee! 
Nedly Stark wrote: Or just continue down this hard long path of nothing but discouragement - continue getting grilled by all naysayers & skeptical forum goers. I can't think of anything more motivating than this, beyond the desire to provide a service to others of course.
Whatever Erotica does or doesn't do, it will be interesting. And likely as not, entertaining.
Surely that's worth the price of admission, don't you think?
Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. --Azual Skoll |

Myriad Blaze
Common Sense Ltd Nulli Secunda
176
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:44:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:I feel you don't fully understand my thought process yet.
Imagine you had just sent ISK to Erotica and now she opens a conversation window with you, telling you that you are her 100th customer and have been invited into the bonus room. You quickly recap the bonus room rules (show faith by following all her instructions and receive back 5x your total assets, fail her and lose everything) and realize immediately that this is a once in a lifetime opportunity! But oh no you are notoriously ill equipped for this singular opportunity as you are constantly broke and even five times nothing does still amount to nothing :(
Erotica Banking Services to the rescue! With just a few keystrokes you have arranged to take out a mortgage on your 5 year-old main character. At a reasonable interest rate and for a very modest processing fee you are flush with cash in an instant. Now you can take advantage of this splendid opportunity!
If you win you can easily pay back the loan and if you should lose Erotica Banking Services can initiate foreclosure on your character within the hour (having just lost all your assets you won't be able to repay the loan - unless you have been holding back in which case it is no wonder that you lost, you dirty cheater! people like you give this game a bad name!) , the character passes into the property of Erotica Banking Services and will then undergo Erotica's rigorous scientific testing procedures or find some other useful application.
As you see there is no need for anything fancy like linking accounts to rl identities or preventing you from biomassing to enable this wonderful win-win scenario. All that is required is for CCP to implement a simple mortgage contract that accepts characters for collateral. Ok, I admit that I'm actually unsure about your aim. Is this irony, satire, or are we already deep into sarcasm?
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Kudos12345
Republic University Minmatar Republic
8
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Posted - 2014.03.19 10:59:00 -
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I am starting a bank too, my board will be entirely composed of anonymous alts except for one Happy Happy Joy who is a well known Jita investor.
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Wulfgar WarHammer
Unrustled
10
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Posted - 2014.03.19 13:07:00 -
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Going to leave the obligatory: "if Erotica 1 is involved, it's a scam" |

Kate 'on
DevonCorp
9
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Posted - 2014.03.20 12:46:00 -
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Vera Algaert wrote:Kate 'on wrote:Vera Algaert wrote:If only EVE would allow you to take out a mortgage on your characters... then your bank could provide credit to bonus room customers allowing them to take full advantage of the opportunity (instead of being limited by the assets they have at hand).
Such a great potential for synergy ruined by CCP's inability to implement a proper mortgage & debt collection process. Until it becomes impossible to biomass your char and start another one, move your assets to other character, etc. debt is irrelevant. Find a way for CCP to keep you account tied to you, not your account, not your char, but you, and keep the game interesting enough for you not to quit, and maybe,.,.. I feel you don't fully understand my thought process yet. Imagine you had just sent ISK to Erotica and now she opens a conversation window with you, telling you that you are her 100th customer and have been invited into the bonus room. You quickly recap the bonus room rules (show faith by following all her instructions and receive back 5x your total assets, fail her and lose everything) and realize immediately that this is a once in a lifetime opportunity! But oh no you are notoriously ill equipped for this singular opportunity as you are constantly broke and even five times nothing does still amount to nothing :( Erotica Banking Services to the rescue! With just a few keystrokes you have arranged to take out a mortgage on your 5 year-old main character. At a reasonable interest rate and for a very modest processing fee you are flush with cash in an instant. Now you can take advantage of this splendid opportunity! If you win you can easily pay back the loan and if you should lose Erotica Banking Services can initiate foreclosure on your character within the hour (having just lost all your assets you won't be able to repay the loan - unless you have been holding back in which case it is no wonder that you lost, you dirty cheater! people like you give this game a bad name!) , the character passes into the property of Erotica Banking Services and will then undergo Erotica's rigorous scientific testing procedures or find some other useful application. As you see there is no need for anything fancy like linking accounts to rl identities or preventing you from biomassing to enable this wonderful win-win scenario. All that is required is for CCP to implement a simple mortgage contract that accepts characters for collateral.
Go back and read the history of banks in EVe, then come back and re read this. More words don't matter, if you don't address the simple fact that there is nothing stopping someone from taking ISK and leaving.
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Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4441
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Posted - 2014.03.21 18:56:00 -
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I have a good understanding of the history of banks in EVE, which is why I see a huge need for a new one, built on a foundation of investor capital and honesty. So far, there has been quite a lot of interest among my trusted escrow agents to help operate this venture. Prior banks were built on a shaky foundation of no seed capital and the desire to scam. Eliminate these 2 factors, and there's a good chance a bank started by me could last for years. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Shranizzle
Black Omega Security Goonswarm Federation
4
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Posted - 2014.03.25 12:47:00 -
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A bank where the 'owner' has an ISK Doubling slogan in their bio.
I rest my case. |

Malcolm from Marketing
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
45
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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:36:00 -
[51] - Quote
ANYONE ACTUALLY TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY ( other than Erotica )
STOP BEING DUMB.
Sometimes i do lose faith in the level of common sense of pilots in Eve. |

TheSmokingHertog
TALIBAN EXPRESS
202
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Posted - 2014.03.26 03:15:00 -
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Malcolm from Marketing wrote:ANYONE ACTUALLY TAKING THIS SERIOUSLY ( other than Erotica )
STOP BEING DUMB.
Sometimes i do lose faith in the level of common sense of pilots in Eve.
Who said common sense helped you forward in EVE? |

Shinya Shazih
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse Sanctuary Pact
2
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Posted - 2014.03.26 13:13:00 -
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Erotica 1, isn't that the one involved in cyberbullying?
http://jestertrek.blogspot.nl/2014/03/the-bonus-round.html http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/03/25/heres-some-of-the-cyberbullying-that-happens-in-eve-online/ Mashiekh of Tleilax - Director of Industry-á |

Jace Sarice
Sarshitra Corporation
845
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Posted - 2014.03.26 15:24:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:my trusted escrow agents
You were amusingly plausible until that. All my luls. So, we'll go no more a roving So late into the night, Though the heart be still as loving, And the moon be still as bright. |

Far Wanderer
Bank of Far
17
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Posted - 2014.03.27 06:53:00 -
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Oh my goodness. 
Don't fly what you can't afford to lose. --Azual Skoll |

Setsune Rin
Collapsed Out Shadow Cartel
188
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Posted - 2014.03.27 09:00:00 -
[56] - Quote
#thatsthejoke |

Bobble Hat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1328
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Posted - 2014.03.27 10:17:00 -
[57] - Quote
From what I remember you are probably the least trustworthy person, so I can only assume this is a Troll post  Schr+¦dinger's cat walks into a bar... And dosen't - Obligatory signature joke. |

Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4709
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Posted - 2014.03.27 13:36:00 -
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I've always wanted to start an honest bank to exceed the huge scams. Imagine the shock when it's achieved and there's no scam.  See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |

Bobble Hat
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1457
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Posted - 2014.03.27 14:08:00 -
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But banks are not suppose to be honest! An urgent rethink will be required to deliver the appropriate level of corruption the public demands/expects... Maybe a CEO who does a lot of Crash or something would help? Marcus Gord wrote: Bobble, please get out of my head... Bobble Hat wrote: But it's so nice and warm in here *wiggles* |

Dalketh
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2014.03.27 17:24:00 -
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Erotica 1 wrote:I've always wanted to start an honest bank to exceed the huge scams. Imagine the shock when it's achieved and there's no scam. 
How can you run a bank when you are about to be banned from Eve for being a sociopath? |
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