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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:24:00 -
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Steve Ronuken wrote:Unable to refine ore for profit?
Sell it, so someone else refines it.
Where's it written that Miners have to be the ones who refine ore? Especially newbie miners?
So we should filter out even more market volume noise in our tables now? ;)
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:31:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:Arrendis wrote:
So just to check, if I'm reading this right, the major advantage of compression for ice will be making it easier to haul it to the refining location - but that refining location will need to be in sov-null, or you're just throwing money away. If you're selling in high-sec, you're losing money on this change no matter what - either you don't get as much product, or you refine locally and need more JF runs to get the product to market.
Am I missing something, or is that an accurate assessment?
You'll sell your compressed ice in jita, then another null alliance buys it for the LO and brings it back.
So we now all have to buy stock in Red Frog?
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:38:00 -
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Anys Thes'Realin wrote:I still dabble with this type of stuff on my old Industry alt, and I mostly like these changes, but there are some parts of it I am a little concerned about.
This does make a Refiner/Reprocessor a more important mini-profession. With the Ore compression, I see raw Ore being sold more often and minerals being sold far less often. However, will this paradigm shift benefit miners, or actually make the mining profession less profitable and only benefit the new "middle man refiner" that simply refines everything and marks it up?
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About the mining bit, you forget that markets will look for equilibrium's all the time, this means that if a profession (say mining) will have a dip in volume (as in hours, since the isk/hour ratio will go down for mining), the output volume of mining will reach a equilibrium after a while, since the people going out of the profession will leave a hole in the provided volume from mining activity, since the volume in ores / minerals from mining will drop, people will have to scoop up less volume from the same amount of buy-orders, this will drive up buy order prices, what will attract new miners since the isk / hour ratio will up again, etc... etc...
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:57:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Adellle Nadair wrote:Malcanis wrote:Berluth Luthian wrote:
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... ... Hi-sec will still be a massively better place to do production than 0.0 after this change. You can complain after CCP - Remove CONCORD - Remove all the NPC stations - Remove the faction police - Allow cynos, bombs and bubbles to work in hi-sec - Move datacore production out of hi-sec - Move BPO sell orders out of hi-sec While hi-sec still has those monumental advantages, this is basically complaining that the poor kid is getting a cherry while you're eating your way through a giant triple-scoop sundae.
Didn't EVE advertise its a dangerous game?
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TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2014.03.21 00:59:00 -
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Lipbite wrote:This is that happens when devs don't develop real content.
You want Jesus features? That worked out well. |
TheSmokingHertog
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Posted - 2014.03.21 01:01:00 -
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Anhenka wrote:Grookshank wrote:So, I might have missed something. But basically now there is more of a loss in the production/reprocessing cycle, which leads too:
1. Loot/Salvage taking a huge hit of about 45-50% in worth.
2. Minerals getting worth more, so more people go afk and bot mining? 1: Yes. 2: Not really, yield is being increased to compensate.
I did not realize my orca hauls will be more frequent now... ;) Thx.
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