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Posted - 2014.03.23 06:54:00 -
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I've not done PI either, mostly because of :Efffort: and RL time constraints.
As far as the changes are concerned, I like them. It's been a long time coming and needed change. I also hope it's only just the start of a boost, that low so badly needs. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:06:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Malcanis wrote: One of us is in daily communication with CCP
One of is isn't.
Good for you! I hope you make the best of your opportunity. But you don't represent me. You can't post without an active account, so he actually does. Even though you may not like it.  Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:10:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Why are so many of you angered by this? Who's angered apart from you? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:20:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Jenn aSide wrote:Because your behavior is reprehensible and your views are incorrect. Deal with it. Jenn is by pointing out you are wrong. Not that it needs much pointing out tbh.
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Take a chill pill. Your anger levels are not healthy, or justified. Irony? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:52:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Uhm no. No mention of him legally representing me in the EULA or that link. And yes, I pay for the service. But I don't pay Malcanis, I pay CCP. I have a relationship with CCP. Malcanis is just some random with a soapbox. Citation still missing. Try again! Erm first line reads as follows....
Quote:The Council of Stellar Management (CSM) is a player-elected council who represent the views of the members of the EVE Online community to CCP.
lol? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:09:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Little reminder btw: " CSM REPRESENTATIVE CONDUCTAny behavior or actions considered being a material breach of the EULA or TOS by a CSM Representative is grounds for immediate dismissal and permanent exclusion from all pending and future participation in the council. There are no exceptions, regardless of the infraction. Representatives are not only expected to uphold the social contract that all society members are held accountable to, but should also set a behavior standard for everyone else to follow." http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/csm/CSMSummary.pdf What relevance does this have to anything here? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:12:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Mag's wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Little reminder btw: " CSM REPRESENTATIVE CONDUCTAny behavior or actions considered being a material breach of the EULA or TOS by a CSM Representative is grounds for immediate dismissal and permanent exclusion from all pending and future participation in the council. There are no exceptions, regardless of the infraction. Representatives are not only expected to uphold the social contract that all society members are held accountable to, but should also set a behavior standard for everyone else to follow." http://web.ccpgamescdn.com/communityassets/pdf/csm/CSMSummary.pdf What relevance does this have to anything here? Has to do with watching your mouth while on your precious little soapbox. So what relevance does it have to do with anything here? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.25 20:47:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:baltec1 wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:
Whatever you need to tell yourself, it was already more profitable to do all these things in NS. If people didn't want to leave before this probably isn't going to encourage them to leave either.
But lets keep playing the imagination game.
I get it though, you want to down play the "Grr Goon" Folks. I think its great Sov Null is getting indy love, but you need to stop telling blatant falsities. This is a net loss in production capacity, and NS is the only one getting an added gain.
Hope you guys got mining lasers ready!
You have already been told dozens of times that it is currently not more profitable to mine in null, hence why high sec has the vast bulk of both players and bots. There is no loss to production, they will have just as much if not more minerals as they do now. 272% more isk/m3 max mining in null than HS is a considerable income advantage, I get it though math is hard. 272% you say? How do you arrive at this figure? Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:02:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:
Easy math friend go check the isk m3 prices and punch the numbers up for yourself. Or would you prefer the 192% average isk/m3 mining all the things. Null Sec is better in every way for mining (but not refining in terms of sov null). But w/e recycled arguments are a waste of time. This change results in less overall production capacity for an increase to Sov mining potential.
So wooopdeee doo. Grrr Goons and all that.
The math isn't hard 19% combined reduction across HS, LS, NS, and an added ~20% in Sov NS =/= status quo. Unless of course all refining is done in Sov Null...but of course we know that isn't going to happen.
This of course ignores the unquantifiable 45% reduction to reprocessing which is a blanket nerf across all space and will dip into markets in HS, LS and NS equally. Which equates to a net reduction in materials available for production, meaning more people will have to mine, or less people will have to produce.
All to benefit a nonexistent Sov Null mining industry. But hey im sure you are right, why would people not jump all over 20% more refining yield when they left 192% isk/m3 sitting there all these years.
So is it 272% or 192% and how did you arrive at that figure? (figures) Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.25 21:58:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Mag's wrote:So is it 272% or 192% and how did you arrive at that figure? (figures) Depends, are you looking for MAX Profit? Or just mining everything? If you are looking at max profitability you are comparing Mercoxit to Veldspar, if you are looking at mining everything then you need to average out the profitability for everything. On a one to one case basis everything in NS is more profitable than everything in HS in terms of profitibility. Even Gneiss (which is only about 30% more profitable.) You could make the argument that measuring against veld is misleading, but it is the best selling HS ore in terms of making cash now instead of later due to its singular mineral type, just like Merc. Since it is better to move minerals from Point A-B it is easier to buy the best Mineral volume for your buck...which is mostly always NS ores, exception being of course, Trit from Veldspar. So for max mining in Null you target Mercoxit vs Max mining HS Veldspar for 272% more isk/m3 and for just mining anything in your belt you net 192% more isk/m3 in NS vs HS. NS mining is and always has been more profitable than anything you can do in HS. Mostly because NS mining is non existant and the market is very demand heavy not supply heavy (keeping prices high.) If you have actual figures to post, I would have thought it easy to post the maths that led you to them. Rather than telling me your theory. Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. Kimmi's Thinking Cosy. |

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Posted - 2014.03.30 22:21:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:This huge nerf to high sec and low sec is not even the last nerf we are going to witness with this June release. How is this in any way, a huge nerf to low sec?
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