Originally by: Espen

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what does the name mean? and lol gl

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Originally by: Microsoft Sam

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Originally by: Espen

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what does the name mean? and lol gl

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It means dont war dec them or they'll surrender

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Originally by: Velsharoon

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Its quite funny that the french and germans are fighting again

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Originally by: Invisible Touch

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GL TCF and welcome to the troubled North.

I guess you are the only alliance in the area that claims Venal atm?

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Originally by: Warlord2004

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bye bye sec13..... miss you already

lolz

GL and have fun with your new neighbours

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: Velsharoon

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Its quite funny that the french and germans are fighting again

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racial comments are bad, ok?

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Originally by: ****take

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: Velsharoon

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Its quite funny that the french and germans are fighting again

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racial comments are bad, ok?

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So just mentioning national origin or comparing an in-game situation to RL history now is racist? Are you mad? Or are you just another victim of Political Correctness runamuk?

Or is it possible you are kidding?

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: ****take

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: Velsharoon

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Its quite funny that the french and germans are fighting again

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racial comments are bad, ok?

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So just mentioning national origin or comparing an in-game situation to RL history now is racist? Are you mad? Or are you just another victim of Political Correctness runamuk?

Or is it possible you are kidding?

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this is a game, keep it ingame.

people who makes such comments and their thinking are the reasons for many problems in the world. And no its not about policial correctnes, its about keeping a game a game.

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Originally by: The Anointed

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tbh its difficult to not call you cheese eating surrender monkeys

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Originally by: ****take

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Edited by: ****take on 30/04/2006 17:57:42

Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: ****take

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: Velsharoon

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Its quite funny that the french and germans are fighting again

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racial comments are bad, ok?

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bla

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blub

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some blub again

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Originally by: Nafri

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Originally by: Velsharoon

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Its quite funny that the french and germans are fighting again

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racial comments are bad, ok?

G already had more than just german pilots, we were just german speaking. Tau Ceti has probably lots of canadian and caribican people.


It will be D¦ vs Tau Ceti at most

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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte

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tbh - you both are wrong ...
at first nafri - it wasn't a racist comment ... it was only stupid one ... so calm down a bit ...

then ****take - though it wasn't a racist one, it was an unnecessary one.

do i have to quote myself?? like i said in the last thread about TCF - stay away from realworld/history comparisons and comments .. even if you didn't want to cause a stupid discussion - there are always morons out there who use such comments for nationalistic stuff.

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Originally by: frederik

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TCF is a french speaking alliance now installed in VENAL .

We formed and moved this week in our new home VENAL without any nap and are now fully installed .

Some alliances tried block this installation and offered some nice and fun fight thx to them .

TCF was a dream for french speaking people now it's reallity .......

Frederik Tau Ceti Federation leader and Section XIII Ceo .


http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/Roba/TCF_intro.avi

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Originally by: Central Scrutinizer

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Getting "installed" into a region (system, tbh) with NPC stations is not difficult. It's silly easy.

Do something else, and people might be impressed.

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Quote:

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Gallente

The Gallenteans. Self-righteous, meddling, pompous and tiresome, or virile liberalists and defenders of the free world. Love them or hate them, you simply can't ignore them. Everybody has an opinion on the Gallente Federation, it all depends from which side of the table you view them. For many, it is the Promised Land, where any dream can become a reality. Descendants of Tau Ceti Frenchmen, the Gallenteans remain strong believers in free will and human rights, despite numerous setbacks in their long history.

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Originally by: Nina Hartley

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hmm, i heard about the nap as well

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Originally by: J909

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Welcome to the party guys, never a dull moment here.

I assure you we have no nap - we been shooting at each other this morning =)

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Originally by: Therem Harth

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Does TCF have any kind of relationship with FFA?

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Originally by: ****take

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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte

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tbh - you both are wrong ...
at first nafri - it wasn't a racist comment ... it was only stupid one ... so calm down a bit ...

then ****take - though it wasn't a racist one, it was an unnecessary one.

do i have to quote myself?? like i said in the last thread about TCF - stay away from realworld/history comparisons and comments .. even if you didn't want to cause a stupid discussion - there are always morons out there who use such comments for nationalistic stuff.

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Fair enough. I certainly bear no ill will against Nafri. It just seems these days that so many people find offense where there is none intended - and that offends me (wait, did I just contradict myself?)

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Originally by: Velsharoon

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Its quite funny that the french and germans are fighting again

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Originally by: Tycalos

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Hmm H-PA a bad place to move ...no medical facilities ... be carefull with your pods or u will loose a lots of SP :)

Anyway goodluck TCF vs ERA and D2 ... i wonder what will happen when fleets from each alliance will be in same sistem ...

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Originally by: The Anointed

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tbh its difficult to not call you cheese eating surrender monkeys...

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Originally by: Tycalos

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Hmm H-PA a bad place to move ...no medical facilities ... be carefull with your pods or u will loose a lots of SP :)

Anyway goodluck TCF vs ERA and D2 ... i wonder what will happen when fleets from each alliance will be in same sistem ...

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Originally by: putty cat

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offtopic does tau in french means spaceship? what does ceti mean? spaceship yetis?

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Originally by: StiZum Hilidii

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sorry your tcf is not the french dream.
dice french wing is

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Originally by: Spouink

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im quite new to teh game i dont know those TCF guys.

but im very disapointed in teh way they do things.

i hope some gm's or admin or something , take this cause serious.
It brakes the whole game mechanic,

Those ppl claim something , but the way they fight is,. they log off and wait for ppl to go away...

And or stay docked. there is a need for something to be changed , for such situations....

Thx alot Spouink

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Originally by: Spouink

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i hope some gm's or admin or something , take this cause serious.
It brakes the whole game mechanic,

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Originally by: Amerame

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Originally by: Spouink

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i hope some gm's or admin or something , take this cause serious.
It brakes the whole game mechanic,

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D¦ is asking for GM's help to fight TCF ? Just stop posting on the forums you're an ambarassement for your alliance.

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Originally by: Lorth

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Well I hope the alt isn't a D2 alt but...

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: Amerame

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Originally by: Spouink

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i hope some gm's or admin or something , take this cause serious.
It brakes the whole game mechanic,

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D¦ is asking for GM's help to fight TCF ? Just stop posting on the forums you're an ambarassement for your alliance.

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Well I hope the alt isn't a D2 alt but... I think the message is, we don't need or want help, only a fight. Kinnda hard to kick someone out of a region when they're offline.

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Originally by: Celestina Apasionado

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So TCF and ERA/OSS have napped....what is this? I thought you guys werent going to do such a thing?

Ah well..

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Originally by: Amerame

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You don't like our playstyle, well we don't like yours either. You don't want a fight, else you would not bring stupid numbers to fight us. You want to play "who's going to get bored of the other's playstyle first?". I hope you're patient, because bringing a huge blob for 3 days won't cut it.

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Originally by: Amerame

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: Amerame

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Originally by: Spouink

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i hope some gm's or admin or something , take this cause serious.
It brakes the whole game mechanic,

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D¦ is asking for GM's help to fight TCF ? Just stop posting on the forums you're an ambarassement for your alliance.

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Well I hope the alt isn't a D2 alt but... I think the message is, we don't need or want help, only a fight. Kinnda hard to kick someone out of a region when they're offline.

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You don't like our playstyle, well we don't like yours either. You don't want a fight, else you would not bring stupid numbers to fight us. You want to play "who's going to get bored of the other's playstyle first?". I hope you're patient, because bringing a huge blob for 3 days won't cut it.

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: Amerame

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: Amerame

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Originally by: Spouink

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i hope some gm's or admin or something , take this cause serious.
It brakes the whole game mechanic,

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D¦ is asking for GM's help to fight TCF ? Just stop posting on the forums you're an ambarassement for your alliance.

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Well I hope the alt isn't a D2 alt but... I think the message is, we don't need or want help, only a fight. Kinnda hard to kick someone out of a region when they're offline.

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You don't like our playstyle, well we don't like yours either. You don't want a fight, else you would not bring stupid numbers to fight us. You want to play "who's going to get bored of the other's playstyle first?". I hope you're patient, because bringing a huge blob for 3 days won't cut it.

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Sorry but I have to respond to this...

Fate controlled H-Pa with no reistance what so ever. At time we would have 8 friendlys with at least 60 in local, and could not ever get a fight.

It was far and away the most boreing time in my entire eve existance. It still boggles my mind as to what type of enemy could claim to controll space yet run from a 3:1 fight in thier favour.

Sorry we wanted a fight, we even tryd to give you one on your terms. You ran from that, and now we're frankly sick of you logging off in NPC stations. So in comes the blob...

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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stuff

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Originally by: Sukme Sidwayz

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As much as I dont like the tau guys, D2 is much worse. The post about people not playing their way. Well,what is their way? Their way is to nap anyone and everyone in the north. Its really really really sad.

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Originally by: Farscape Hw

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to be completly honest, the ONLY good fight ive ever gotten from tcf guys is when i scrambled a tcf megathron in my crow in a system about 8 jumps from the nearest npc station and 30 mins and half of his structure later, 11 of his friends in frigs showed up to help him. i killed 6 of them but sadly the mega, 4 assault frigs and a stabbed up merlin got away.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Originally by: Farscape Hw

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to be completly honest, the ONLY good fight ive ever gotten from tcf guys is when i scrambled a tcf megathron in my crow in a system about 8 jumps from the nearest npc station and 30 mins and half of his structure later, 11 of his friends in frigs showed up to help him. i killed 6 of them but sadly the mega, 4 assault frigs and a stabbed up merlin got away.

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So, you were at some point alone in a Crow, against 12 opponents, including 4 AF, and you killed 6 of them and forced the other 6 to flee?

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Originally by: Spiff Jones

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Originally by: Farscape Hw

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to be completly honest, the ONLY good fight ive ever gotten from tcf guys is when i scrambled a tcf megathron in my crow in a system about 8 jumps from the nearest npc station and 30 mins and half of his structure later, 11 of his friends in frigs showed up to help him. i killed 6 of them but sadly the mega, 4 assault frigs and a stabbed up merlin got away.

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So, you were at some point alone in a Crow, against 12 opponents, including 4 AF, and you killed 6 of them and forced the other 6 to flee?

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tbh, that doesnt surprise me at all...
everytime i'm in H-PA solo, there are just mass undocks to try and get me to go away, nobody even attempts to get a real fight outta me... jamming before i even target ne1, and i'm solo! pffft

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Originally by: Seleene

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This is what happens when you eat the red M&M's

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Originally by: Spouink

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im quite new to teh game i dont know those TCF guys.

but im very disapointed in teh way they do things.

i hope some gm's or admin or something , take this cause serious.
It brakes the whole game mechanic,

Those ppl claim something , but the way they fight is,. they log off and wait for ppl to go away...

And or stay docked. there is a need for something to be changed , for such situations....

Thx alot Spouink

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Originally by: Amerame

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Originally by: Spouink

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i hope some gm's or admin or something , take this cause serious.
It brakes the whole game mechanic,

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D¦ is asking for GM's help to fight TCF ? Just stop posting on the forums you're an ambarassement for your alliance.

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Originally by: Ginaz

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C'mon, let's sort this ingame with big guns and not with nonrelevant postings

D2 might force the frenchies out of Venal but i think it won't happen without some good fights, as soon as frenchies notice that they have to fight for their place in 0.0 That includes small, medium and large engagements and both sides have good fleet commanders, good pilots and some bucks to waste for pvp

I'm looking forward to that and i wish france good luck against spain (and D¦)

(the "frenchies" is not meant in a unrespectful way)

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Originally by: Amerame

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Edited by: Amerame on 24/06/2006 15:48:08

Originally by: Ginaz

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C'mon, let's sort this ingame with big guns and not with nonrelevant postings

D2 might force the frenchies out of Venal but i think it won't happen without some good fights, as soon as frenchies notice that they have to fight for their place in 0.0 That includes small, medium and large engagements and both sides have good fleet commanders, good pilots and some bucks to waste for pvp

I'm looking forward to that and i wish france good luck against spain (and D¦)

(the "frenchies" is not meant in a unrespectful way)

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Forcing TCF out of venal is not going to be an easy task

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Originally by: Crellion

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Edited by: Crellion on 24/06/2006 19:21:22
Zomg the North has been introduced to the RA-RAT inspired loggofski tactics...


**** how many of you will be playing EvE in 2-3 months.

Remember: Idiots are invincible.


I left the "o" out of "count" and CCP filled my reply with little stars

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Originally by: Omeega

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Edited by: Omeega on 24/06/2006 23:13:31
ok.

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Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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Could you please tell me some more abt. those fights? When, where?

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Originally by: Amerame

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Edited by: Amerame on 24/06/2006 15:48:08

Originally by: Ginaz

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C'mon, let's sort this ingame with big guns and not with nonrelevant postings

D2 might force the frenchies out of Venal but i think it won't happen without some good fights, as soon as frenchies notice that they have to fight for their place in 0.0 That includes small, medium and large engagements and both sides have good fleet commanders, good pilots and some bucks to waste for pvp

I'm looking forward to that and i wish france good luck against spain (and D¦)

(the "frenchies" is not meant in a unrespectful way)

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Forcing TCF out of venal is not going to be an easy task, not that it's impossible for D2 but be ready to stay in Venal in full force for several months. XIII and Colsup both have a long history of living under siege in NPC regions, and the rest of TCF is learning fast :)

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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Could you please tell me some more abt. those fights? When, where?

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Nope sadly I can't. They didn't happen. We took 8 people, yes 8 people, and controlled your system with 60 in local. And I have to mention that the other 52 people there, were members of TFC.

Which is really what we are complaning about. The fact that an allience will sit in an NPC controll system, out number thier opponents, and still never ever engage them.

Frankly, I have seen and heard of some pathetic shows from allience before. But nothing even comes close to what I have seen living in H-PA for a week. Frankly all that's needed to be done to force TFC into collectivly safespotting is one hostile typing Ugga Bugga Bugga into local.

As I'm typing this, I really wish I had some way to prove it. thier no killboard record, because you simply collectivly logged off. I didn't take screen shots, because most people don't take shots of them camping a hostile force in who out numbers them 10:1.

Heck we even took down a POS in your own home system when you out numberd us 34:12. And I know for a fact that enough of those people were active, because a force capable of killing our capatial ships insta docked from the bubble when we killed it.

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Originally by: Lorth

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Edited by: Lorth on 24/06/2006 23:41:22

Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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Could you please tell me some more abt. those fights? When, where?

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They didn't happen ever. Read my post again please. We gave you a 10:1 number advantage, and we saw mass log offs, and a bunch of people hugging a POS.

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Originally by: Amerame

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Yesterday you put our PoSes in reinforced. Today you were unable to finish them off, you have not been able to break through our defenses. I'd like to understand the point of moving ~20 dreadnought and 150 people, lose over 50 ships in the process killing only a few to not even finish the PoSes ?
Quit your smack, you should have realised that taunting us on the forum will have no effect, we won't suicide on your blobs because a few smacktalkers think they are hurting our pride on the forums.
Anyway there has been a few fleet battle the last few days, you defended GA poses, we defended ours, if you are unable to finish off a few PoSes with no gun online of an alliance that fear to engage 52 vs 8, what does that make of you ?

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Originally by: Lorth

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Originally by: Amerame

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Yesterday you put our PoSes in reinforced. Today you were unable to finish them off, you have not been able to break through our defenses. I'd like to understand the point of moving ~20 dreadnought and 150 people, lose over 50 ships in the process killing only a few to not even finish the PoSes ?
Quit your smack, you should have realised that taunting us on the forum will have no effect, we won't suicide on your blobs because a few smacktalkers think they are hurting our pride on the forums.
Anyway there has been a few fleet battle the last few days, you defended GA poses, we defended ours, if you are unable to finish off a few PoSes with no gun online of an alliance that fear to engage 52 vs 8, what does that make of you ?

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Hey how about this. We've done enough postering on the forums already.

Next time we meet in an even battle, how about you guys show up?


Thats all we want. A nice fight. But we never get it, ever. And if you've noticed every single one of the D2/Razor replies has been about that issue. You don't fight, ever. We could get into lame, but not 'exploit' things that happen on an allience wide level, but I'm not. I'll be the officail D2 diplomat in this case, and ask you please for the love of god just come out of the stations.

Its hard enough finding an even fight now a days. Who would dream that getting fight when your out numbered could be so hard?

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Originally by: Amerame

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I wonder which part of my post was unclear. We waited 12 hours for your fleet to show up and finish your job and you did not show up to fight. We were right there, there was over 2B worth POSes to destroy that had been put in reinforced mode yesterday, and you were contained 5 jumps away of them all day long.
By the way, I feel like I'm repeating myself, but we don't play to entertain D¦, we're not at your disposition to suicide on your fleets whenever it pleases you. Venal is our playground, it's a NPC 0.0 region. Don't like getting you ass kicked Vietnam's style, get back to 0.0 conquerable space.

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Originally by: Lorth

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I can't talk in specifics for that case.

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Originally by: NAFnist

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guys, tis looking bad for everyone.

Kiss and make up

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Originally by: MacDuncan

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Yesterday it was germany's part in the WCS...
(the day before France played and the same apology for not assembling a fleet appeared in local, so why not use it?)

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Originally by: SweatySack

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They put up more of a force to protect a system. Sometimes they fight, sometimes they hide. We all do the same, even my corp in Fade. No need to smack. If they feel they can not win a fight, then they wont engage. My corp does the same. We pick our fights, and fight on our terms when possible.

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Originally by: Jancen Sykes

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Originally by: SweatySack

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They put up more of a force to protect a system. Sometimes they fight, sometimes they hide. We all do the same, even my corp in Fade. No need to smack. If they feel they can not win a fight, then they wont engage. My corp does the same. We pick our fights, and fight on our terms when possible.

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TFC rarely engage when they dont have at least 2 times firepower and when they got it they strikes hard and fast when the enemy mostly got bored of waiting for them. But i agree with you, thats nothing to complain about.

To the fights yesterday. Well our WM-Game was the half of the thing.. sure we lost pilotes because of that and after the match many ppl where drunk. But also those wo remains lost their Ships over the day and had to get reinforcement. Because of that we had in the end our force splited on 3 different points in the region. And TFC tried everything to stop the reunion of the D¦ Fleet while our ppl try to break the blockade. In the end we did manage to break through but it was to late. And the ppl started to log off ( bet the tfc started to have the same problem ). Guess yesterday was more the day of TFC than of D¦. I hope this wont continue like that.

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Originally by: Jancen Sykes

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Btw. TFC pls dont compare a few single smackers with the whole alliance. We dont do it either with your ppl who smacked us in local at the posses we shoot in reunion.

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Originally by: Mss Alt

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Well ... the thing is:
1. gank with 40+ gangs solo pilots doesn't count as fleet fights
2. flying carriers with full rack of wcs in low slots it's the lamest thing in eve
3. you french guys never want to engage when the odds are equal
4. you safe spot and log the minute you lose the 3:1 advantage

And I could continue with this for at least 10 more points but it's kind of useless.
You gameplay style could be petitioned as griefing other players. You make use of not ingame mechanics to gain an unfair advantage.

You're the most annoying alliance in EVE.
You get kills for the price of respect.

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Originally by: Mss Alt

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Well ... the thing is:
1. gank with 40+ gangs solo pilots doesn't count as fleet fights
2. flying carriers with full rack of wcs in low slots it's the lamest thing in eve
3. you french guys never want to engage when the odds are equal
4. you safe spot and log the minute you lose the 3:1 advantage

And I could continue with this for at least 10 more points but it's kind of useless.
You gameplay style could be petitioned as griefing other players. You make use of not ingame mechanics to gain an unfair advantage.

You're the most annoying alliance in EVE.
You get kills for the price of respect.

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Originally by: Murukan

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it's pretty lame when people are using a nationality to base their insults (even though TCF isn't all from france you tarts) Even more when the said poster lacks the balls to post on a main

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Originally by: Lorth

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EDIT since we seem to be in the mood to compare kills. Take a look at our killboard. when you do I would like a public appology.

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Edited by: Gozmoth on 26/06/2006 08:45:24

Originally by: Lorth

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EDIT since we seem to be in the mood to compare kills. Take a look at our killboard. when you do I would like a public appology.

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TCF DO fight the mega-blob-alliance in the north D2-GA-RZR-..., those who do not believe it ... well just check the killmails. D2 do not like us - it is a fact. They do what they can to destabilise us and to rally opinions against us. That's a part of the game that is important.

But the more I think about it, the more I am getting convinced that D2 has forget how things are really going.

For example, I have never been killed by a D2 guy, you can check it on D2 and TCF killboard. I have been involved in killing several D2 as you can check on TCF killboard, but ... nothing on D2 killboard. I have randomly checked for some gang mates - it is the same. I find our losses but not our kills.
I know that TCF killboard is faily accurate (believe or not - or simply check difference between the 2 killboards) as our leaders stress us to post all our losses, because we use it as a tool for debriefing and strategic decisions.

So *my* question is : do D2 really know what's going in Venal ? How can the D2 leaders have a clear view of the situation with a gimped killboard ? How D2 friends can believe them with this ?

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Originally by: Alicia Delauro

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TCF do try to have one as accurate as possible, from what I know, but they also know it will never be completely accurate...

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Edited by: Gozmoth on 26/06/2006 08:45:24

Originally by: Lorth

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EDIT since we seem to be in the mood to compare kills. Take a look at our killboard. when you do I would like a public appology.

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TCF DO fight the mega-blob-alliance in the north D2-GA-RZR-..., those who do not believe it ... well just check the killmails. D2 do not like us - it is a fact. They do what they can to destabilise us and to rally opinions against us. That's a part of the game that is important.

But the more I think about it, the more I am getting convinced that D2 has forget how things are really going.

For example, I have never been killed by a D2 guy, you can check it on D2 and TCF killboard. I have been involved in killing several D2 as you can check on TCF killboard, but ... nothing on D2 killboard. I have randomly checked for some gang mates - it is the same. I find our losses but not our kills.
I know that TCF killboard is faily accurate (believe or not - or simply check difference between the 2 killboards) as our leaders stress us to post all our losses, because we use it as a tool for debriefing and strategic decisions.

So *my* question is : do D2 really know what's going in Venal ? How can the D2 leaders have a clear view of the situation with a gimped killboard ? How D2 friends can believe them with this ?

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Originally by: RaYmEn

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If kill or loss mails are missing on our killboard, evemail them to me and I will post them on our board...if not shut up.

thank you for your time

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Originally by: Frederik manager

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Thanks a bunch for interest you show :D2, GA etc ....in tryng to fight us in forum and space so intesively.

Are you guys talking us seriously after all?

"What ever someone talk about you nacely or badly the important is that they are talking about you "
POINCARET

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Originally by: Exus

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Originally by: Frederik manager

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Thanks a bunch for interest you show :D2, GA etc ....in tryng to fight us in forum and space so intesively.

Are you guys talking us seriously after all?

"What ever someone talk about you nacely or badly the important is that they are talking about you "
POINCARET

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finally, maybe we have to care about you, maybe we have to see you as a real alliance that leave in 0.0 space.... docked in NPC stations

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Originally by: Jancen Sykes

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same goes for you dude.

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Originally by: frederik

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TCF is a french speaking alliance now installed in VENAL .

We formed and moved this week in our new home VENAL without any nap and are now fully installed .

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Originally by: ZePequerio

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k go buy a brain those "craps" were only for die triyng . Those guys live in npc stations and flame us about it

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Originally by: Exus

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remember that your first idea by forming TCF was to claim something...

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Originally by: Exus

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Die Trying is a small corp living in NPC stations... whats wrong.

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Originally by: Jancen Sykes

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Edited by: Jancen Sykes on 26/06/2006 10:06:25
Well at least it seems the tide has turned.

During the early afternoon of Sunday D¦ managed to get some stratecial with TFC. While playing arround with them, we were able to install safe base within the System. Also a second D2 Fleet arrived and tiped the Balance of Power of this day to our side. While the D2 fleet(s) managed to hold the system and maybe also tried to get the overhand of the surrounding systems. A TFC Fleet decided to counterattack us in our very own homesystem ( and no iam not speaking of XZH ). I will looking forward for the upcoming week.

Edit: the current position of the TFC-Counterfleet remains still unknown.

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Originally by: peuhhh

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Originally by: Kalyster

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Originally by: peuhhh

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This character is bugged.
It has cluelessness to lvl 6.


Stop your fantasies.
If you want some fight, you know where we are.
Don't make up for your ingame inabilities with fairytales.

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Originally by: Yma Toummi

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Originally by: Kalyster

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Originally by: peuhhh

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This character is bugged.
It has cluelessness to lvl 6.


Stop your fantasies.
If you want some fight, you know where we are.
Don't make up for your ingame inabilities with fairytales.

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you dont have any humor. In addition you are sooo arrogant. it's maybe the reasons why many people h8 u. i'm just sad coz their is some good ppl in TCF

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Originally by: peuhhh

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Edited by: peuhhh on 26/06/2006 17:53:08

Originally by: Exus

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remember that your first idea by forming TCF was to claim something...

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BKG isn't it ?

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Originally by: Yma Toummi

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Originally by: Kalyster

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Originally by: peuhhh

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This character is bugged.
It has cluelessness to lvl 6.


Stop your fantasies.
If you want some fight, you know where we are.
Don't make up for your ingame inabilities with fairytales.

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you dont have any humor. In addition you are sooo arrogant. it's maybe the reasons why many people h8 u. i'm just sad coz their is some good ppl in TCF

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Originally by: dnfgnfgnfgn

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Edited by: dnfgnfgnfgn on 26/06/2006 23:56:28
However, you're still in Venal. The only reason you are able to live in Venal is because the mechanics of the game make it impossible for your enemies to force you to leave.

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Originally by: dnfgnfgnfgn

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Edited by: dnfgnfgnfgn on 26/06/2006 23:56:28
Hello, this is my alt.

Let me start by congratulating TCF. Unlike other alliances in Venal, such as Process of Elimination, you are able to do more than run nightly sweeps for miners and NPCers. You camp gates, form fleets, etcetera.

However, you're still in Venal. The only reason you are able to live in Venal is because the mechanics of the game make it impossible for your enemies to force you to leave. They cannot take your stations. You can always dock, resupply during low peak times, and so on. The only way they can get you to leave is by making the game hideously unfun to play, which means they must camp you 23/7. Not fun for them, not fun for you, but it's the only thing which would work.

If CCP allowed your enemies to fight to take over Venal stations, you'd be gone within 2 weeks. You would not be able to run missions. You would lose all your POSes. You would have to travel at least 20 jumps to restock ships. Simply put, you would fail.

So on the one hand, I say 'congrats' for being interesting. On the other hand, however, 'stop pretending', there is only one reason you're still in the North.

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Originally by: dnfgnfgnfgn

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So on the one hand, I say 'congrats' for being interesting. On the other hand, however, 'stop pretending', there is only one reason you're still in the North.

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Originally by: Amerame

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Originally by: dnfgnfgnfgn

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So on the one hand, I say 'congrats' for being interesting. On the other hand, however, 'stop pretending', there is only one reason you're still in the North.

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We perfectly know where we stand, and we knew from the start that we could not compete with D2 in PoS warfare. We do not pretend to be better than D2 by being able to live in Venal, we have not even at any point try to "claim" Venal.
Yet we though that this game would be boring if your only opportunity to get in 0.0 when you form a new alliance was to pledge loyalty to BoB / D2 / LV&Co / ASCN. It would be unfortunate if you HAD to, but as you mentionned CCP provided us with a game mechanism that allow to practice 0.0 day to day life and alliance warfare without fearing to be completely wiped out in 2 days by one of the largest alliance. TCF wish to remain policaly independant and free. If we are to discuss with other alliances it will be on equal footing or nothing.
Now you might argue that the reward in conquerable 0.0 are too low compared to NPC 0.0 and I would certainly agree with that, but drasticaly changing the sovereignty system in NPC 0.0 would simply make it if not impossible, at least much harder for any new alliance to start operating in 0.0. How many leading corporation in Eve started by operating in NPC regions ? Maybe you had no other choice at that time, but still, that's the proper way to learn how to operate in 0.0.

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Originally by: Amerame

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Oh, and by the way if we are besieged by D2 it's precisely because we started to seriously threaten their allies in Venal with our fleets and that we started to attack PoS with capital ships.

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Originally by: Fred0

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Do you honestly believe that yourself? It was not oh they are threatening us. It was more oooh they have capital ships not in docking range now maybe they will fight. Unfortunately they are now all within docking range again and nothing is at stake.

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Originally by: Fred0

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Do you honestly believe that yourself? It was not oh they are threatening us. It was more oooh they have capital ships not in docking range now maybe they will fight. Unfortunately they are now all within docking range again and nothing is at stake.

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Originally by: Fred0

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Do you honestly believe that yourself? It was not oh they are threatening us. It was more oooh they have capital ships not in docking range now maybe they will fight. Unfortunately they are now all within docking range again and nothing is at stake.

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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Originally by: DeadDuck

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Originally by: Fred0

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Do you honestly believe that yourself? It was not oh they are threatening us. It was more oooh they have capital ships not in docking range now maybe they will fight. Unfortunately they are now all within docking range again and nothing is at stake.

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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Believe me you should ...

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Originally by: Geralt Rivia

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Originally by: Fred0

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Do you honestly believe that yourself? It was not oh they are threatening us. It was more oooh they have capital ships not in docking range now maybe they will fight. Unfortunately they are now all within docking range again and nothing is at stake.

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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yah sure, i believe every TCF alt

Take example from colsup, they don`t smack,they don`t flame,when they post its mature. Good to see old friends stay at their values

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Originally by: Exus

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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ok now prove something, you have the number and the pvp experience.
why moving all your stuff from the south if its only to live again in NPC stations...
just want to discover some new areas ?
btw, with kali, there will be new regions, maybe you could have a place here. but in Venal, I dont think so, there is enough people...

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Originally by: Geralt Rivia

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yah sure, i believe every TCF alt

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Edited by: Gozmoth on 27/06/2006 11:23:17

Originally by: Geralt Rivia

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yah sure, i believe every TCF alt

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It is not because my settings was not showing my corp/alliance, that i am an alt. :)

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Originally by: Geralt Rivia

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Was too lazy to check ingame, soz for calling u an alt

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Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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Originally by: DeadDuck

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Originally by: Fred0

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Do you honestly believe that yourself? It was not oh they are threatening us. It was more oooh they have capital ships not in docking range now maybe they will fight. Unfortunately they are now all within docking range again and nothing is at stake.

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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Believe me you should ...

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Guess i really need to install fraps...

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Originally by: Deva Blackfire

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Originally by: DeadDuck

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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Originally by: Fred0

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Do you honestly believe that yourself? It was not oh they are threatening us. It was more oooh they have capital ships not in docking range now maybe they will fight. Unfortunately they are now all within docking range again and nothing is at stake.

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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Believe me you should ...

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Guess i really need to install fraps...

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Originally by: Harisdrop

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TCF is for real. The origanal post was in april. They are still here.

Venal is a hotspot and it will only get hotter. We all must live with an eye over our should.

Venal should become the festering groud of all limbo corps/alliances.

I invite all that have anything to prove to prove it here.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Originally by: Exus

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Originally by: Gozmoth

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I sincerely think that nobody believes anymore the tcf-doesnt-fight-and-hides-in-station story anymore. Sorry.

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ok now prove something, you have the number and the pvp experience.
why moving all your stuff from the south if its only to live again in NPC stations...
just want to discover some new areas ?
btw, with kali, there will be new regions, maybe you could have a place here. but in Venal, I dont think so, there is enough people...

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Why Venal? In short, because it was a hot spot.

Our alliance was just newly formed, our corps had never cooperated together before, and our first joint opTration has been the 200-man gang that went in Venal for the first time. We needed some place to learn to work together and acquire experience.

We could have chosen a nice, cozzy spot, a region where we'd have been relatively left in peace and started mass mining/hunting, but guess what: alliances that choose the easy way are doomed. Their military muscle will atrophy, as their pvpers leave that alliance for another where there's more action, and sooner or later, they'll be invaded. It's what happended to the old FA.

So we choosed a spot where we'd have a lot of hostiles, to keep us on our toes, and follow a NBSI policy. We can't spend much time hunting or mining, but it dosen't matter. As for NPC stations, we didn't have much choice to begin with. Concquerable stations means POS warfare, and POS warfare means lots of Dread, which we don't have yet.

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Originally by: Eutha Nathia

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Every body is happy (except the carbear which are useless)

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but wasnt you surrounded by reds also in your south NPC region ? you was on the wrong side also ! naped with RA if I remember correctly. maybe you was just borred.

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Originally by: Exus

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you was on the wrong side also ! naped with RA if I remember correctly.

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Originally by: Beyond Horizon

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When Section XIII was a part of Red Alliance I watched them fight and I can only say that they are great pvpers, if you don't believe me - check their stats:

http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=search&type=corp
http://killboard.red-alliance.info/?op=corp&name=Section%20XIII

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Originally by: arjun

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such a solution was possible before tcf came to venal. just ask the neighbours if they can live with it and are willing to set blue standing. tcf didnt ask, invaded and allied with d2s enemies against d2. bad choice of sides. the other enemies are gone from the area mostly now.

so a nice outccome is now pretty unlikely and every post here and every shot fired makes it even less likely.

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Originally by: Geralt Rivia

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Originally by: Omeega

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very true.

look at Hast and Me.

True lub'

<3 <3 <3

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Originally by: arjun

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such a solution was possible before tcf came to venal. just ask the neighbours if they can live with it and are willing to set blue standing. tcf didnt ask, invaded and allied with d2s enemies against d2. bad choice of sides. the other enemies are gone from the area mostly now.

so a nice outccome is now pretty unlikely and every post here and every shot fired makes it even less likely.

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Tbh, I'm not sure a NAP with D2 would have been a good thing for us, because that would have meant napping the whole north, and running out of targets is as bad as running out of ammos.

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Originally by: Exus

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Edited by: Exus on 28/06/2006 10:21:42
Im just bored to see you in my pants.
you can allways have a safe place that you can call home, somewhere to defend ! without beeing the puppets of no one. And this way have somewhere to build your stuff for PvP and dont care about losses and go shot someone in conquerable space ! and maybe finally have somewhere called home that isnt in NPC space...

if you can assemble a blob of 200 pvpers, its fully possible. make your original dream true !
today, you're only replaying what you lived in the south...
I think I'd be happy to finally join you if you do it. but today you're just walking in my garden, so I dont see why LSD should nap you. because we are also french ? no way. this is just my ideas, Im not speaking for my corp here.

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Originally by: Karylia

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Originally by: Exus

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Edited by: Exus on 28/06/2006 10:21:42
Im just bored to see you in my pants.
you can allways have a safe place that you can call home, somewhere to defend ! without beeing the puppets of no one. And this way have somewhere to build your stuff for PvP and dont care about losses and go shot someone in conquerable space ! and maybe finally have somewhere called home that isnt in NPC space...

if you can assemble a blob of 200 pvpers, its fully possible. make your original dream true !
today, you're only replaying what you lived in the south...
I think I'd be happy to finally join you if you do it. but today you're just walking in my garden, so I dont see why LSD should nap you. because we are also french ? no way. this is just my ideas, Im not speaking for my corp here.

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Don't worry. I don't see why we would nap with a tiny grain of sand like LSD

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Originally by: Karylia

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Don't worry. I don't see why we would nap with a tiny grain of sand like LSD

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Originally by: peuhhh

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Edited by: peuhhh on 28/06/2006 16:22:49

Originally by: Karylia

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Don't worry. I don't see why we would nap with a tiny grain of sand like LSD

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but you tried to nap us, at the beginning. we had refused it. simple as that

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Originally by: peuhhh

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amerame get out of your dream. we expose fact, YOU flame. I never seen a 200 man fleet of TCF btw ;)

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Both of you, stop that, right now, please.

Thanks...

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Originally by: peuhhh

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amerame get out of your dream. we expose fact, YOU flame. I never seen a 200 man fleet of TCF btw ;)

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Originally by: Spiff Jones

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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Originally by: Farscape Hw

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to be completly honest, the ONLY good fight ive ever gotten from tcf guys is when i scrambled a tcf megathron in my crow in a system about 8 jumps from the nearest npc station and 30 mins and half of his structure later, 11 of his friends in frigs showed up to help him. i killed 6 of them but sadly the mega, 4 assault frigs and a stabbed up merlin got away.

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So, you were at some point alone in a Crow, against 12 opponents, including 4 AF, and you killed 6 of them and forced the other 6 to flee?

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tbh, that doesnt surprise me at all...
everytime i'm in H-PA solo, there are just mass undocks to try and get me to go away, nobody even attempts to get a real fight outta me... jamming before i even target ne1, and i'm solo! pffft

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Are you telling that you you believe him? That anyone with a mere inty can fight 12 opponents alone, at the same time, and win?

As for duels, Once, with my Arma, I saw one of you (Soraji) with a Tempest camping the H-PA station. We were both alone, at 130km from each other. I opened fire, he fled. We destroyed his ship later at one of his safe spots, and the killmail showed that he had at least 2 WCS fitted. How brave is that?

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