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Raid	Posted - 2006.05.01 04:25:00 - [1] Edited by: Raid on 01/05/2006 04:25:14 How long were you in CC for? 12 days?... We should have done to you what Priory did to their spy... In your 12 days in CC you have learnt nothing about our history and nothing about our capabilities. Your goal seems to have been to get information, leave the alliance and start a PR campaign against us. You know nothing about why we're here, what these wars are about and nothing about our history with the other alliances in this area. If you think this post will change anything your mistaken. If anything you have made us rethink out hiring policies and *** down and spy alts. Be gone. NO REPLIES FROM CC PLEASE Originally by:** Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.01 05:04:00 - [2] Originally by: Major Ganksta LOL and thats why until I stopped fighting cause it was immoral I was ranked #7 on your kill boards. Raid your post doesn't really warrent a reply but here it is. I gave your pirate alliance a fair swing before I found out you were just a pirate alliance with no goals that benefit the EVE community as a whole. Then I left and voiced my opinion to the people that really matter... the community. Funny, i had no idea we were ganking people in 0.1 systems... Your biggest mistake was confirming you are spy...goodluck getting honest employment with this character. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 02:24:00 - [3] Edited by: Raid on 02/05/2006 02:24:46 Originally by: Jacob Majestic You seem to have left out the parts where we offered you NAP. At least twice. And was turned down. You also left out the part where we banned ISS civilian traffic from your space in Curse. I think at this point the onus is on you to defend your policy of "defending" Curse by flying to Catch and engaging ISS pilots in KDF-GY. Or was the 17-man gank squad you had in KDF earlier tonight on a diplomatic mission? This topic has been beaten to death before. Yes ISS offered us a NAP yes we turned it down.. life goes on welcome to 0.0 space. As for the diplomatic convoy we sent today, the ISS defence force got the message. Its convenient and fun, im sure IAC had fun today as did we. Life would be boring in 0.0 if everyone was naped with everyone else. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 12:21:00 - [4] Originally by: Butter Dog No-one has a problem with you shooting people in 0.0 - but making a claim on a entry chokepoint and sniping passing shuttles and haulers is just... lacking in 'panache'. At the end of the day, you guys live in NPC stations next door to empire - and then you attach political messages to your low-end piracy and won't admit the truth: you simply enjoy ganking noobs and haulers. You don't own curse, the NPC's do. And the NPC's have allowed the ISSN to rent a number of offices in strategically important systems. So cut the BS, please, because no-one is buying it. We have lived in curse long before the ISS was even dreamed up, you dont know the history here so please, save it. Good, rent as many offices as you like thats what their there for! We dont have a problem with that, expect to get killed a lot however. Welcome to 0.0 stop trying to nap people that dont want to nap you and start working on your ISSN. That frig fleet yesterday may have been worth 2mil isk but you cant put a price on dignity. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 13:56:00 - [5] Originally by: Velios We (LV) had free passage through Curse anyway with or without a NAP from you guys. We hardly break a sweat at the thought of travelling because I fear CC might be there. A friend of RA is certainly no friend of ours, that is why the NAP was broken the moment you (CC) misjudged the situation in truly epic proportions. In all fairness we did set LV to neutral before we set RA to positive. The reasons for this were explained to V and Chimp who did nothing but order us to set LV to positive. When we refused our closest friends set us in turn to neutral. One thing about war, it shows you who you friends really are. We would never have stabed V in the back.. NEVER.. We have never worked along side RA against LV/Chimp/V/KOS, we simply set them to positive so we wouldnt have to worry about them inside of curse. It took some convincing but they did indeed nap us. I have respect for RA because they know how to stand on their own, even in the face of impossible odds they remain indipendant. Butter, bring out the frig squads fine, but thats not definetly not the best way to train your pilots. Your pilots wont get a better training oportunity then right here against us. We would love a standup fight with you guys or even IAC. Stop treating this as a win/lose situation and take advantage of the oportunity to train your pilots properly. Despite what you think we dont want you guys gone, you bring additional pvp to the area. If you want your ISSN to be able to defend your areas properly stop putting them in t1 frig squads and start making use of their skills! Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 13:58:00 - [6] Edited by: Raid on 02/05/2006 13:58:21 Originally by: Hoshi Originally by: Eyeshadow You sir are the biggest lieing piece of crap i have ever had the misfortune to read a post by We have never ran from a CC "fleet". Infact i have yet to see any kind of resistance from you in Doril and area (though i havent been on much). To try and say we dont engage in fair fights is complete horse crap. we had 35 and you had 25 or sommat? God damn we woulda spanked you from here to next year. If it was the other way round we would have done the same. Fact of the matter is you did NOT engage, you sat at your safespot while we waited for you at the gate in the next system. After a while we got bored waiting and headed for HED-GP. As soon as your scouts reported back that we had moved out (we where between you and KDF) you left your safe and headed for KDF where you picked up 10 more battleship pilots. This is FACT and it's not the first time it has happend. It was actually 11 MC and aprox 25-30 ISS which is probably why it never happened. No matter, we stayed away from the blob and managed to have fun around HED. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 14:15:00 - [7] Originally by: Butter Dog I don't think CC have yet fought a 'full strength' ISSN fleet. I'm sure it will happen sooner or later though. For now, we're saving our energies for the outpost deployments. You'll get your turn. Excellent let us know when and where. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 14:20:00 - [8] Originally by: Evelgrivion On another note, player killing is one thing - extortion is another. And the IAC doesnt like piracy - as ransoming a ship is piracy to the highest degree. Its is not our policy to ransom neutrals (anywhere in eve). Its also not our policy to shoot neutrals in 0.1 to 0.4 systems. It does still happen sometimes, despite my best efforts, and we deal with it acordingly. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 14:30:00 - [9] Originally by: Evelgrivion Originally by: Raid Its is not our policy to ransom neutrals (anywhere in eve). Its also not our policy to shoot neutrals in 0.1 to 0.4 systems. It does still happen sometimes, despite my best efforts, and we deal with it acordingly. Im glad to hear that your policy is like that. However, your objective of allowing PVPing to continue as normal is preventing corporations and alliances like the IAC from cleaning out some of the worst scum from these regions - Player killing is one thing - trying to extort them is another. Wait what? Explain that differently cuz i didnt understand that. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 14:41:00 - [10] Originally by: Eyeshadow The MC mostly have very little dealing with ISS. We are a seperate entity and run our combat ops alone. The fact that there was ISS in local doesnt mean we were flying with them, if we even knew they were there. We probably saw 25 targets and only had 11, so we went to get some more to even the numbers up From the look of it they were flying side by side with ISS so we considered it the same gang. The reinforcments were not MC they were ISS. Originally by: Eyeshadow That is not running away from you. I still dont know when this was as i heard nothing about it, but saying 35 MC ran away from 25 CC is complete rubbish. We'd engage 35 CC with 25 of us any day (just ask veritas, we thought them loads of times outnumbered) I dont need to ask veritas we were in V at the time. I corrected the numbers to reflect things more acuratly. MC accounted for 11 of the 40 something ships. We withdrew towards and was chased by all enemy ships (even an IAC fleet came to join in.. at one point local in QSM was up to 60 something. (we were not in local this was MC, ISS, IAC). The MC did break off from the group and made their way towards HED-GP after we withdrew towards U-Q. Thats what really happened. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.02 17:36:00 - [11] Originally by: semp Major Ganksta has now traded his char for another by the name of Neusa. Neusa has been a member of M. Corp for less than a day. Thanks Eve-Search! Linkage Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.03 14:03:00 - [12] Originally by: Xaarist we do have fraps of at least two camps in Doril with CC and RA side by side from that time. Show them to me... Our policy has always been no one sets up camps in doril but allied corps. If RA was camping the gate they are asked to leave. Show me the fraps please. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.03 14:54:00 - [13] Originally by: Lowa Originally by: Wwhisper Originally by: Lowa Originally by: Wwhisper Lowa, Stop playing stupid, it doesn't become a member of the MC. It's common knowledge that when the MC loses a ship, those that hired them replace the ship. Why should I fight you on those terms. After your contact is up, come on back. I'll more than gladly fight you. Until then have fun without me. Ralph Dear Wwhisper-Ralph, I will now tell you something and I want you to listen. MC does NOT get replecment ships from clients. We may have been payed in ships but to be honest I have no knowledge of such things.I sure as hell have never received a ship after a lost fight, only a set of miner II's. Now, trust me or not, but call me a liar and you shall see how much credit I have compared to you in this our home and universe. And dont wish for things you really dont want to have happen. Sincerely, LOWA Dear LOWA, Please go back and read my post. I did not call you a lier. I called you stupid. If you're gonna get upset at something, than at least get it right. 'Gets paid in ships or gets replacements a rose by any other name is still replacement ship.' And it still equals the same thing. I do not fight mercs. I go after those that pay the mercs. Ralph Ralph, So what you are saying is that if you encounter an enemy that have the founds to replace ships with ease and run a prolonged war you wont fight them because you cant win? You have just offended your entire alliance by saying that you are so poor that you can not fight an enemy that has a solid economy behind it and that cant be right?! And dont come and say that you fight ISS because they are not a unified alliance or corp in that aspect and both you and them know that they are not the best fighting force in EVE right now. They are climbing the ladder fast though if I am to believe some posts in here. What would you do if D2 or ERA or any other alliance with a mighty ISK-backbone showed up and moved in? Regards, LOWA Lowa, he's saying 2 things: 1. A Merc's has a job to do. If the job is to kill you then avoiding the merc means he cant do his job properly. 2. ISK gained from a contract is used to fuel the war machine. A ship lost is in some form paid by the clients, so long as there are clients there will be materials to fuel the war machine. Hence the idea in step #1 to eliminate the advantage of the merc so the client can no longer justify hiring the merc. Dont read more into the situation that the above. This is the theory in merc warfare, shoot the client not the merc. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.03 17:48:00 - [14] I leave for lunch and all hell breaks loose. Can we all stop the flaming. Lets try answering questions without throwing flames back and forth shall we? It tends to be more productive. Lowa, What would we do if someone with unlimited funds moved in? First, thats a general question that any small alliances anywhere in eve would have to answer. If you know the history of Tyrell/CC you can probably figure out what we would do. We'd stay, fight... make money elsewhere if we couldnt do it in curse but continue to fight until they are gone. How long? Years if necessary... The original intent behind the comments of not fighting someone with unlimited funds was directed at specifically merc corps who are paid up front by someone else. Like i said before dont read more into it than that. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.03 18:10:00 - [15] Originally by: Max Teranous If I am ever on the wrong side of an MC war dec I'll be engaging them till i'm out of isk and out of ships. Why? Because it'd be a shed load of fun and i'd be fighting against some of the best pilots in eve. And that's why I play. I'm sure other pvpers would and should say the same. Besides I bet they drop good loot No doubt its fun... but at the same time your giving the client exactly what they want and encouraging them to continue to hire mercs against you because its so effective. professional mercs are not concerned about your fun level, their concerned about the job they have to do. Its a give and take situation. Yes its fun no question... but you're playing right into your enemies hands. You give your enemy time to breath while someone else fights for them. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it
Raid	Posted - 2006.05.04 19:05:00 - [16] Edited by: Raid on 04/05/2006 19:05:00 Originally by: Farjung Originally by: Tara Read Edited by: Tara Read on 04/05/2006 18:38:14 Originally by: Farjung Play nice boys and girls ¼_¼. i dont think farjung wants me to point out the falcon i/we just killed about an hour ago... along with a few shinra battleships I don't particularly care to be honest, I just think chest-beating on the forums or in local serves no purpose. Its gives me a reason to stay awake at the office. Can you imagine if i actually WORKED? The Horror!!! Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it

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