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Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna
The North is Coming
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Posted - 2014.03.24 12:25:00 -
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hi,
the elections for CSM9 are coming, and the list of candidates is quite long. I would also want to research them if I am to help them rise to power ( ;-) ).
So, low sec guys, what are your propositions? Reading thru every post on every candidate will take me some time, and being pretty new here I would like to get some opinions from you. Whom should a low sec person support? High and null seem to be overrepresented at first glance. I always preferred to stick with my own.
Cheers,
Singature Radius 48 m |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1206
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:45:00 -
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Sorry, having lived in a democracy for 32 years I'm just going to assume the cattle will outvote any serious thinkers so who cares? Besides, each and every election ever is rigged anyway. |
Doireen Kaundur
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:50:00 -
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Hillary Clinton?
Minimizing the cost of replacing implants.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
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Posted - 2014.03.24 15:51:00 -
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There are no LS guys. We are all too busy playing the game because we have neither the AFk missions of HS, nor the passive isk printing of nullsec. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:14:00 -
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Vote for me! I have an idea.
Take all the moons and all the asteroid in Low Sec, and Switch them with all the moons and asteroids in Nullsec.
That is my only Idea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEJFWoAVJz4 |
Tetsel
Heretic Army
Heretic Initiative
115
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:16:00 -
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I think the fact that the vote will be sealed by 0.0 voters, close all discussion about a serious LS candidate to be efficient, if elected, in the CSM.
Loyal servent to Mother Amamake.
@EVE_Tetsel |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:18:00 -
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Tetsel wrote:I think the fact that the vote will be sealed by 0.0 voters, close all discussion about a serious LS candidate to be efficient, if elected, in the CSM.
Pretty much, and CCP hates LS anyway so there is that to deal with too. |
Ruskarn Andedare
Lion Investments
466
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:28:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Tetsel wrote:I think the fact that the vote will be sealed by 0.0 voters, close all discussion about a serious LS candidate to be efficient, if elected, in the CSM. Pretty much, and CCP hates LS anyway so there is that to deal with too.
I'm sure it's not hate, more a distrust / dislike issue |
Nick Bete
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:39:00 -
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Meh, doesn't matter. The ones who win and dominate are arrogant null sec bloc people like Malcanis who will insult you and ram through their narrow agendas anyway. The whole CSM is a farce.
If you want to really make your voice heard then VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET. If the devs aren't listening and the game is moving in a direction you don't like, UNSUBSCRIBE. The only thing CCP responds to is declining revenue in the form of people leaving. |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:40:00 -
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If you're looking for a good losec only candidate, I'd suggest DJ FunkyBacon.
He knows his **** for losec and FW.
New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
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Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna
The North is Coming
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:42:00 -
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well... asked mainly cause if there's a voting I should give a vote. Wanted lesser evil :P
As for low sec... Most people I talked with that had, or appeared to have any idea loved LS and were quite proud they are not living in high or null. Most of them also liked WH a bit, but come on... If we are to be outvoted we need to vote for someone at least.
Singature Radius 48 m |
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
1759
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:45:00 -
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Balshem Rozenzweig wrote:well... asked mainly cause if there's a voting I should give a vote. Wanted lesser evil :P
As for low sec... Most people I talked with that had, or appeared to have any idea loved LS and were quite proud they are not living in high or null. Most of them also liked WH a bit, but come on... If we are to be outvoted we need to vote for someone at least.
Just vote for all the losec candidates first, followed up by me. Then pick the rest out of a hat.
New player experience, more highsec PvE missions, casual play, balance, counters to AFK cloaking, expanding the NEX store, and Power Projection.
Azami Nevinyrall for CSM9! |
Mizhir
Euphoria Released
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:48:00 -
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I would say Sugar Kyle. She also runs a market in lowsec and knows her ****.
Gorski Car is another good choice for lowsec.
One Man Crew - Collective solo pvp |
Tetsel
Heretic Army
Heretic Initiative
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Posted - 2014.03.24 16:51:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:I would say Sugar Kyle. She also runs a market in lowsec and knows her ****.
Gorski Car is another good choice for lowsec.
Gorski Car even if playing in low is still a PL and will push PL agenda. Not a good option.
Loyal servent to Mother Amamake.
@EVE_Tetsel |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
426
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:27:00 -
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Tetsel wrote:Mizhir wrote:I would say Sugar Kyle. She also runs a market in lowsec and knows her ****.
Gorski Car is another good choice for lowsec. Gorski Car even if playing in low is still a PL and will push PL agenda. Not a good option.
There is nothing wrong with PL. Manfred has some pretty nice ideas that would actually help Lowsec moving forward in some aspects.
If he is in support of the notion of flipping PI and Moon minerals from Nullsec to Low Sec he has my vote. If not I will vote for myself, and I am not even running.
Everyone always talks about risk/reward, LS POCO's and POSes are at the most risk in the entire game, thus should have the best moongoo and PI in the entire game.
Assuming the "risk/reward" is an actual balance metric and not just lip service. |
WASPY69
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
216
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:39:00 -
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Forget about lowsec. Highsec is the bigger issue. So vote Psychotic Monk for CSM 9!! =D |
Koz Katral
Sanctuary of Shadows
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:41:00 -
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If your interest in Low Sec is PVP orientated, then vote for Jayne Fillon. |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1209
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:45:00 -
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Mario Putzo you are making a ton of sense bud. Besides, I don't think LS needs a lot of CSM attention to be honest.
While some mechanics are obviously not perfect, it allows for the loose gameplay style most of LS cowboys crave. Lowsec is in quite a good spot at the moment with FW and Clone rat spawns as income sources. I even know a guy that mines insane amounts of ice without getting caught. People are having fun in LS as far as I can judge, together with wspace I think it actually functions somewhat as intended: at least well enough for people not to complain all the time, but to keep playing the game! |
Khergit Deserters
Crom's Angels
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Posted - 2014.03.24 17:52:00 -
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Mizhir wrote:I would say Sugar Kyle. She also runs a market in lowsec and knows her ****.
Gorski Car is another good choice for lowsec.
^ Sugar Kyle |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:00:00 -
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Inxentas Ultramar wrote:Mario Putzo you are making a ton of sense bud. Besides, I don't think LS needs a lot of CSM attention to be honest.
While some mechanics are obviously not perfect, it allows for the loose gameplay style most of LS cowboys crave. Lowsec is in quite a good spot at the moment with FW and Clone rat spawns as income sources. I even know a guy that mines insane amounts of ice without getting caught. People are having fun in LS as far as I can judge, together with wspace I think it actually functions somewhat as intended: at least well enough for people not to complain all the time, but to keep playing the game!
LS imho is close to being the most balanced and pure portion of this game. Apart from the little resource flip I would do, it is in a decent place. L5 missions provide really good reward for their risk, mining provides moderate reward for risk. POS and POCO rewards are lacking imo however.
As far as combat drivers, FW is obviously huge, but outside of that it is kind of lacking, an increase in "reason" is needed for nonFW groups imo, and again making POCO/POS conflict more rewarding could lead to an uptick in wars and such, which is always healthy for the game.
The nice thing about LS is that it gets bleed through for changes in both HS and NS so it keeps it in a relevant space.
Some love to nonFW income generation/conflict drivers though, that is essential imo and about the only real lacking element presently in LS. Having the highend planet/moon material from NS flipped into LS would do this, as well as help solve some issues in NS I believe.
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Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:26:00 -
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Sugar Kyle, DJ Funkybacon and Gorski Car, in the order of your choice. All have solid credentials and good ideas.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Telegram Sam
The Drones Club
Shoot 2 Thrill
1333
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Posted - 2014.03.24 18:57:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:Sugar Kyle, DJ Funkybacon and Gorski Car, in the order of your choice. All have solid credentials and good ideas.
Sugar Kyle. I'm not familiar with the other two guys, but I'll take your word for it. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
517
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:01:00 -
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Telegram Sam wrote:Darek Castigatus wrote:Sugar Kyle, DJ Funkybacon and Gorski Car, in the order of your choice. All have solid credentials and good ideas. Sugar Kyle. I'm not familiar with the other two guys, but I'll take your word for it.
Funkybacon is an EVE Radio DJ and long time gallente faction warfare guy. Knows his **** when it comes to FW and has some good ideas for lowsec in general. I would suggest checking out his thread in the CSM Campaigns forum and decide from there.
Gorski I've heard less about but seems to be a solid candidate and a lot of the low seccers I know have said theyre considering backing him. Again check his CSM campaigns thread and decide from there.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Brave Newbies Inc.
Brave Collective
395
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:47:00 -
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There is this presumption that electing someone from lowsec or with a lowsec focus is going to get anything done for lowsec.
The CSM doesn't work that way. What genuine CSM initiatives have actually born fruit in the last 3 years?
Every candidate promises a mile long list of reforms and ideas, and 99% of them will never see the light of day.
Elect the person you think is most deserving of free trips to Iceland and is most likely to call out CCP on being mentally ******** when they act so.
They thought they could get away.-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays. |
Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
519
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Posted - 2014.03.24 19:56:00 -
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And how are they going to tell CCP they're being stupid if they know nothing about the area they claim to support?
Having someone knowledgeable about our area is going to help even if what you suggest is all they end up being able to do.
Pirates - The Invisible Fist of Darwin
you're welcome |
Anslo
Scope Works
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:24:00 -
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This division of candidates and regional representation is detrimental to Eve yet continues to be perpetuated.
I will not vote for a candidate claiming to represent low or high or nul. I will vote for a candidate who represents Eve, and sees the game for all its parts, not some.
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Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
439
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Posted - 2014.03.24 20:28:00 -
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Anslo wrote:This division of candidates and regional representation is detrimental to Eve yet continues to be perpetuated.
I will not vote for a candidate claiming to represent low or high or nul. I will vote for a candidate who represents Eve, and sees the game for all its parts, not some.
Vote for me then, I think all of EVE is equally ****. |
Balshem Rozenzweig
Akademia Milicyjna
The North is Coming
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Posted - 2014.03.24 21:27:00 -
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Anslo wrote:This division of candidates and regional representation is detrimental to Eve yet continues to be perpetuated.
I will not vote for a candidate claiming to represent low or high or nul. I will vote for a candidate who represents Eve, and sees the game for all its parts, not some.
if CSM is fractured and you think a candidate should represent everyone, and wait for this canditate you are delluded and weaken your own position. If null people say they have plans for null we should counter them with people from high sec. This is how democracy works and thinking it's a bunch of people coming together hoping to please their neighbour is just silly.
Not that I think it matters that matters - just saying your logic is broken.
Singature Radius 48 m |
Lucas Kell
JSR1 AND GOLDEN GUARDIAN PRODUCTIONS
SpaceMonkey's Alliance
2730
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:11:00 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Some love to nonFW income generation/conflict drivers though, that is essential imo and about the only real lacking element presently in LS. Having the highend planet/moon material from NS flipped into LS would do this, as well as help solve some issues in NS I believe. Yes, yes, move everything into lowsec, we've heard it. The best you could hope for if they did that is a massive blob coming and jacking your systems.
Low sec should not be the be all and end all of the game, no matter how much you wish it was.
The Indecisive Noob - A new EVE Fan Blog for news and stuff. |
Mario Putzo
Welping and Dunking.
442
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Posted - 2014.03.24 22:17:00 -
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Lucas Kell wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Some love to nonFW income generation/conflict drivers though, that is essential imo and about the only real lacking element presently in LS. Having the highend planet/moon material from NS flipped into LS would do this, as well as help solve some issues in NS I believe. Yes, yes, move everything into lowsec, we've heard it. The best you could hope for if they did that is a massive blob coming and jacking your systems. Low sec should not be the be all and end all of the game, no matter how much you wish it was.
Lol this guy, LS the be all end all of the game hue hue hue!
"Don't take my gooo man!, its for your own good!"
So apart from the hordes of NS descending upon LS for moons (which will just get flipped again anyway) is there any other reason why this would be bad? Or do you legitimately think you can contest lowsec system in the same way you do NS systems? |
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