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Alumar Ventrue
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Posted - 2006.05.03 14:15:00 -
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Suicide runs? Like having 2 accounts, 1 ship with high dmg output to kill hauler then get concorded, 2nd ship come in and cleanup?
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Harry MacDougal
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Posted - 2006.05.03 18:12:00 -
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 Originally by: Treborprime
heh
those cars into stores eh ?
I'm pretty sure they get arrested and thrown in jail each and every time ;).
But ok they take higher security hits... whats that mean to a pirate ? Nothing really. They take security hits all the time. Whats one more going to do ?
So yes I suppose the hauler takes a risk. But their risk is 3000 times fold higher than a pirate thats going to lose a frigate and take a relatively small by comparisons security hit.
Risk must be equal on both sides. So whats adequate risk for a suicide runner ? The point of this debate is that its not high enough when compared to the risk a hauler takes.
The equation must equalize ;) .
Equation does equalize. You run a high risk for a high gain by transporting stuff in a T1 hauler. If you use a T2 hauler or a frieghter, which both cost more, then you get more armor/shields and are much more likely to survive. The tools are there, don't blame the pirates that the carebears are too stupid to use them. Personally, I tank my haulers to hell and back, then use instas on top of it when I'm transporting valuables. Or I use something faster, like an interceptor, if I wanted to move BPs.
Think before you complain about how the pirates have it easy.
BTW, pirates have great tactics, and can work together in groups. THe only thing keeping them from taking over highsec is the sec hits that they already take and the lack of a unified command structure. However, BoB or another 0.0 alliance could cause mass distruction in empire for kicks, then return to 0.0 to work off the sec hit and the ships lost.
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MILL17331H 2190TEP
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Posted - 2006.05.03 18:22:00 -
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Would people in high-sec system pay for a Logistics ship to supply them with remote shields (shield transporters) and remote armour repairer as they tarveled through the high-sec system?
e.i. remote tanking
Hmmm, possible money making venture.
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Draquin
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Posted - 2006.05.03 18:24:00 -
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Originally by: Malka Badi'a
High-sec only remains as safe as it is now because we allow you that comfort.
All the CONCORD deployed in the galaxy wouldn't be able to push back a massive invasion of pirating forces.
Translation
Malka cant compete with the Suicide gank squads in high security and she knows it. nothing wrong with that. theirs enough of them that my "Gank me" kesses get blown up at the rate of 1-3 a day.
That and the fact is that their are people like me who run Gankme rigs with shrink wraped crap and one run BPCs just to see whos dumb enough to fire on it probably keep people like here away because she knows its not worth the effort.
Ironicaly you dont see the PKs griping about how many Gankme kesses and shuttles are flying out their in high security and I know im not the only one running them! (heck its sometimes a race to see who gets ganked first or the most often, toby, mitch, daniel or me, and I know we cant be the only ones!)
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Hunters Presence
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Posted - 2006.05.03 18:36:00 -
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Originally by: Draquin
Originally by: Malka Badi'a
High-sec only remains as safe as it is now because we allow you that comfort.
All the CONCORD deployed in the galaxy wouldn't be able to push back a massive invasion of pirating forces.
Translation
Malka cant compete with the Suicide gank squads in high security and she knows it. nothing wrong with that. theirs enough of them that my "Gank me" kesses get blown up at the rate of 1-3 a day.
I'm failing to see the correlation.
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Draquin
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Posted - 2006.05.04 00:52:00 -
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Originally by: Hunters Presence
Originally by: Draquin
Originally by: Malka Badi'a
High-sec only remains as safe as it is now because we allow you that comfort.
All the CONCORD deployed in the galaxy wouldn't be able to push back a massive invasion of pirating forces.
Translation
Malka cant compete with the Suicide gank squads in high security and she knows it. nothing wrong with that. theirs enough of them that my "Gank me" kesses get blown up at the rate of 1-3 a day.
I'm failing to see the correlation.
Simple
Malka is not an idiot.
Shes not about to camp newbivil on the off chance that some idiot spams traid with their deal that is worth far more than the Suicide Keses it would cost to take down said trader only to see that theirs 2-4 other suicide kess squads waiting on the same moron, nor is she going to blow up 4-8 cargo scan ships just on the off chance that one of thoes newb ships is actualy hauling something to pay back the effort.
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Rehen
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Posted - 2006.05.04 02:55:00 -
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Edited by: Rehen on 04/05/2006 02:59:09
Originally by: Shiva Seran
if you end up getting killed by a suicider, "only" because you carried 500mil of t2 stuff in a t1 hauler (just an everyday example), please consider two things:
1. it's your fault because you jumped into the lake full of piranhas for a bath being as careless as can be
2. it's a business after all, and we do this just as you do yours.
so please, reduce the amounts of swear words in your multiple hate mails. it is a business between respected members of society, so we expect to be called Sir/Madam as you do. we are not lawless people, we just have another sense for "law" as CONCORD has. after all, we do it for the benefit of our people and children.
in the end, i just want to say thank you to many, on behalf of many others.
The only problem i have with this is that its always sombodys nub alt in a kessie ect.. its a tatic thats been around since the start of eve (was easyer when kessies fited cruise  ), but it has no come back to the main char and is pritty spinless. Worse of all they are Nub Alts and most of us feel the use of such char's damage the eve experiance.
Disclamer i have never ever used this tatic honist 
And too be honist, eve never used too be safe in any system full stop back before the rat thing you used too be able too warp into a belt in 1.0 kill everybody there in your bs's and warp around the system for a while untill you lost concord i.e you wouldent even loss your ship :P
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.05.04 03:06:00 -
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Edited by: Telemicus Thrace on 04/05/2006 03:06:40
Originally by: Malka Badi'a
High-sec only remains as safe as it is now because we allow you that comfort.
All the CONCORD deployed in the galaxy wouldn't be able to push back a massive invasion of pirating forces.
Now I would pay to see that! Ok, I wouldn't but I'd bring pop corn.
To the OP, if you break the local law you are a law breaker. It's not a matter of opinion, simple fact. Aside from that I totally agree. Although whenever anyone calls me sir I shudder.
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