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Kindakrof
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:06:00 -
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Title says it all... comments?
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:08:00 -
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I expect people to fight even if they outnumber me. But even that is hard.
~Shadowlord
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:10:00 -
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you can never expect people to fight a fight they don't like the look of.
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Hamatitio
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:12:00 -
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an interdictor can FORCE them to.
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...why do you people always have to verbally assault each other over things that doesn't matter anyway?
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danneh
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:13:00 -
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They don't have to, but if they do, more power to them.
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Ikvar
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:19:00 -
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Originally by: Eximius Josari
I expect people to fight even if they outnumber me. But even that is hard.
Too true 
Originally by: xsolarisx
eve-online takes money out my credit card each month without my permission
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Siren Shiva
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:20:00 -
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Veto fights outnumbered all the time. People run if they dont outnumber us massively. 
Lyticus > I freaking hate you!
Siren Shiva > I love you too <3
Trey > Siren sounds like she could kick my ass on Vent
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Kindakrof
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:32:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio
an interdictor can FORCE them to.
Interdictors are YARR!!! 
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6Bagheera9
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:33:00 -
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Being out numbered by no means condemns you to defeat.
I was involved in a battle in which about 10 pilots with 2 battleships slaughtered a larger force with 3-4 battleships. We ambushed them at a gate and jammed their BSs with a trio of
Blackbirds. The combined effects of the element of suprise and EWAR prevented them from taking out our damage dealers and it was all over in about a minute. We suffered no casualties.
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.05.03 22:35:00 -
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Originally by: 6Bagheera9
Being out numbered by no means condemns you to defeat.
I was involved in a battle in which about 10 pilots with 2 battleships slaughtered a larger force with 3-4 battleships. We ambushed them at a gate and jammed their BSs with a trio of
Blackbirds. The combined effects of the element of suprise and EWAR prevented them from taking out our damage dealers and it was all over in about a minute. We suffered no casualties.
I know, my most fun fights where when outnumbered.
~Shadowlord
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Fuglife
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Posted - 2006.05.04 01:15:00 -
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We fight outnumber all the time, i prefer it that way. I belive our last fleet fight was 3-1 odds.
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.05.04 02:01:00 -
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I fight you all
KAMIKAZE TEH FORUM!!!111
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Masta Killa
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Posted - 2006.05.04 02:22:00 -
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5 ppl completely owning a 40+ man fleet = nothing out of the usual.
Sometimes I think about how unfair it is to those 40+ ppl but hey, it's not my fault all 5 ppl wanted to join the gang
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Ben Derindar
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Posted - 2006.05.04 02:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hamatitio
an interdictor can FORCE them to.
Not always... but often. 
/Ben
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.04 02:34:00 -
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Originally by: 6Bagheera9
Being out numbered by no means condemns you to defeat.
I was involved in a battle in which about 10 pilots with 2 battleships slaughtered a larger force with 3-4 battleships. We ambushed them at a gate and jammed their BSs with a trio of
Blackbirds. The combined effects of the element of suprise and EWAR prevented them from taking out our damage dealers and it was all over in about a minute. We suffered no casualties.
2 BS + 3 blackbirds >>>> 3-4 battleships.
You were in no way outnumbered with 3 ewar blackbirds on your side.
Originally by: Dark Shikari
Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
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Lygos
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Posted - 2006.05.04 04:41:00 -
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Edited by: Lygos on 04/05/2006 04:42:03
To loosely echo John Stoessinger - conflict is a process whereby misperceptions of the balance of power between two agents are resolved.
Therefore, groups which entertain thoughts of contingent disengagement against an opponent lay the groundwork for player states to emerge. It's a natural, exploitable, and generally useful human tendency from anyone's point of view. Thus it's no surprise that so many have often asked for defense to be easier than offence in developing tracts o' space. An excellent example is here.
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.05.04 06:01:00 -
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I play DotA and there also ganking is in high factor. If you go out alone be sure that you will be ganked pretty fast.
In EVE you will also be ganked because like in DotA, death means you will lose something. People will flock to ensure that their loss % is minimal.
Welcome to the era of ganks and blobs
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maGz
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Posted - 2006.05.04 07:55:00 -
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Fighting outnumbered is the best form of PVP bar those rare 1v1s where you have 20% structure left when the other guy pops...
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Ernest Graefenberg
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Posted - 2006.05.04 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: Ernest Graefenberg on 04/05/2006 08:18:55
Originally by: Kuolematon
I play DotA and there also ganking is in high factor. If you go out alone be sure that you will be ganked pretty fast.
In EVE you will also be ganked because like in DotA, death means you will lose something. People will flock to ensure that their loss % is minimal.
Welcome to the era of ganks and blobs
Except DotA is excellent fun because it doesn't have the problem that EvE has : Theres not that pressing a reason to immediately launch, and its too easy to re-dock/jump/safespot.
DotA might be gank heavy, but because its do-or-die its an intense, teamwork oriented tactics-fest. EvE just needs less easy-outs from PvP - no magical logoffs, nerfed docking and aggrotimers that stick with both the aggressor and the target (!) as well as chasing into warp. If you launch into this oh-so-dangerous space, you should have to be faster, meaner or smarter than everyone with a craving for your corpse - not like it is right now, the one with the smallest pair of ********* lives longest.
Also, taking more than one person in an equivalent ship to take out another combat ship of the same class is silly. Needing to gank haulers is fine, needing to gank everyone ever is not.
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Katamarino
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Posted - 2006.05.04 09:54:00 -
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I got jumped by a group of 6 antipirates while solo the other day. Sadly, 3 of them escaped
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EvilTwin I
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Posted - 2006.05.04 10:23:00 -
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if you have to .. you do
otherday:
I got blobed by 7 sniggs/snigg"waffels" while i was ransoming a bs pilots pod  ended up with, dis-jam his pod, shot down 3 sniggs (2cruiser 1frig +2pods) .. daMn that feels good 
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Jane Vladmir
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Posted - 2006.05.04 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Vladmir on 04/05/2006 10:57:30
Expect us to, by all means.
I wrote the book on fighting outnumbered.
PS. I play DotA too, good instant fun.
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Katamarino
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Posted - 2006.05.04 11:03:00 -
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It does seem nowadays that sensor strength enhancers are important for outnumbered fighting (or indeed almost any fighting!). It is very rare that I encounter PvP ships that don't have at least one jammer, and it becomes rather annoying.
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Species 8472
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Posted - 2006.05.04 11:13:00 -
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oh i love to fight outnumbered lost so many ships because of it but its such great fun :)
sometimes u can win
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JOSEPHx
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Posted - 2006.05.04 11:23:00 -
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I dont expect anything from anyone.
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ian666
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Posted - 2006.05.04 11:24:00 -
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It certainly is more exciting, but sometimes when the odds are 10 to 1 I feel its time to just let go of the mouse and Key and sit back and watch the action as your ship gets owned LOL, but if I take down one or two ships from them i call that my victory YARRRR, as the odds are truely stacked against me.
In some cases being out nummber 10 - 1 is just totally boring and I wish people would be more into a decent fight then a slaughter as its no fun for either side.
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Nahia Senne
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Posted - 2006.05.04 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Katamarino
It does seem nowadays that sensor strength enhancers are important for outnumbered fighting (or indeed almost any fighting!). It is very rare that I encounter PvP ships that don't have at least one jammer, and it becomes rather annoying.
i fit them instead of damage mods nowdays. no point in being a damage dealer if all you do is watch the battle while jammed =/
o ya, i play dota too! join channel #dota on euro servers! we need more inhouses!
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Je'hira Osiris
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Posted - 2006.05.04 11:53:00 -
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I fight out numbered all the time as does my corp. but then most pirate corps do. I took on a raven and domi then other day got the raven and the domi ran. (No biggy) then bumped into another domi 2 thraxes , a bb and a tranis and had a go (Lost) but it was alot of fun. Its all about the fear of losing simple answer dont carry stabs and fight till the end of your hull :-) and after that ram them with your pod,.,
Respect can be found for your enemy.... its jus a case of how hard you wanna look...
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Kuolematon
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Posted - 2006.05.04 12:09:00 -
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Originally by: Nahia Senne
o ya, i play dota too! join channel #dota on euro servers! we need more inhouses!
Can't. I play on .. umh other battle.net
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Vamp 1
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Posted - 2006.05.04 12:27:00 -
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Originally by: Katamarino
I got jumped by a group of 6 antipirates while solo the other day. Sadly, 3 of them escaped
Frigates versus BS ?
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