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Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 158	Posted - 2014.03.28 22:15:00 - [1] - Quote Trebor Daehdoow wrote: Danalee wrote: So no ganking without explaining to your target why and how to prevent it. Did I say that? I rather think not. See my comment in the same reply about semantic quibblers. Sorry Trebor but I think you're using a convenient excuse to side step questions. I don't see anyone arguing semantics, I see them looking for clear guidance and getting fed bullshit. Eve is a brutally harsh game and we are all here because we like to bite the pillow. The real question is how far are we willing to let things ago -how much is too much? I don't agree with the way that a lot of people play Eve, but Eve is a sandbox so I have to be willing to at least put up with all forms of game play. But if limits are going to be set then let's define them so there is no ambiguity. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 08:01:00 - [2] - Quote W space residents frequently evict corporations and alliances that do not PVP. So if we gank some w space dwellers, they cry about it in local, and then we decide to invade their system and evict them are we going to get banned for it? It will take days to get enough ships in system, and grinding down towers will take at least a day, during which we will be "torturing" those poor "victims" who have already let us know that we are doing emotional harm to them... Sorry CCP, but I think you've set a bad precedent with this one. I don't agree with what Erotica 1, or any of the miner bumping crowd, does -it's the real world equivalent of going to a play ground and beating up special needs kids. But Eve is a sandbox, and if you want to keep it that way then it's tough to set limits on what people do as long as their conduct isn't illegal. Everyone is talking about Erotica 1 like he's some kind of mass murderer, and yet the death threats made by Sokar aren't even mentioned at all by CCP !? Eve is a tough game and we are all hear because we like to bite the pillow. If people want to play in a theme park MMO then WoW is that way --> Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 08:10:00 - [3] - Quote Big Lynx wrote: Dorn Val wrote: W space residents frequently evict corporations and alliances that do not PVP. So if we gank some w space dwellers, they cry about it in local, and then we decide to invade their system and evict them are we going to get banned for it? It will take days to get enough ships in system, and grinding down towers will take at least a day, during which we will be "torturing" those poor "victims" who have already let us know that we are doing emotional harm to them... Sorry CCP, but I think you've set a bad precedent with this one. I don't agree with what Erotica 1, or any of the miner bumping crowd, does -it's the real world equivalent of going to a play ground and beating up special needs kids. But Eve is a sandbox, and if you want to keep it that way then it's tough to set limits on what people do as long as their conduct isn't illegal. Everyone is talking about Erotica 1 like he's some kind of mass murderer, and yet the death threats made by Sokar aren't even mentioned at all by CCP !? Eve is a tough game and we are all hear because we like to bite the pillow. If people want to play in a theme park MMO then WoW is that way --> Aching muscles because of permanent facepalming... Ok, why? I've made a perfectly valid point, and if the community doesn't like how someone is playing them maybe the community needs to get off of its collective backside and do something about it instead of pressuring CCP to take action. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 08:12:00 - [4] - Quote Mr Epeen wrote: Dorn Val wrote: . So if we gank some w space dwellers, they cry about it in local, Local? LOL Mr Epeen Local exists in W space -you just won't show up in it unless you're stupid enough to chat :) Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 09:54:00 - [5] - Quote Big Lynx wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Big Lynx wrote: Dorn Val wrote: W space residents frequently evict corporations and alliances that do not PVP. So if we gank some w space dwellers, they cry about it in local, and then we decide to invade their system and evict them are we going to get banned for it? It will take days to get enough ships in system, and grinding down towers will take at least a day, during which we will be "torturing" those poor "victims" who have already let us know that we are doing emotional harm to them... Sorry CCP, but I think you've set a bad precedent with this one. I don't agree with what Erotica 1, or any of the miner bumping crowd, does -it's the real world equivalent of going to a play ground and beating up special needs kids. But Eve is a sandbox, and if you want to keep it that way then it's tough to set limits on what people do as long as their conduct isn't illegal. Everyone is talking about Erotica 1 like he's some kind of mass murderer, and yet the death threats made by Sokar aren't even mentioned at all by CCP !? Eve is a tough game and we are all hear because we like to bite the pillow. If people want to play in a theme park MMO then WoW is that way --> Aching muscles because of permanent facepalming... Ok, why? I've made a perfectly valid point, and if the community doesn't like how someone is playing them maybe the community needs to get off of its collective backside and do something about it instead of pressuring CCP to take action. Why? Here! That makes it perfectly clear. However, I can't use your common sense for you. Go back and read Trebor's post again and ask yourself if ganking someone again, after they have already gone ballistic in local once, is now against the rules? My common sense tells me that it is, but no one on the CSM or at CCP will spell it out. There are a lot of people playing this game just to get "tears" but it seems to me that pushing someone to the point where they snap is now against the rules. So how long before suicide ganking, scamming in trade hubs, etc. is also banned. Where does it end. Also keep in mind that the "victim" willingly participated in Erotic 1's twisted game. A real torture victim is restrained and has no choice... I really think that common sense went completely out the window when Jester made a big deal out of all this on his blog. He wrote that piece on Erotica1 knowing how the high sec care bear community was going to respond, and it was tabloid journalism at its finest -deserving of a slow golf clap... Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:06:00 - [6] - Quote Bunnie Hop wrote: If this is a game where 'emergent gameplay' is a blanket for any type of anti social destructive behaviour, then there is a problem. The anonymity of the internet sure has eroded morals. Eve is more simulation than game. I firmly believe that if you put people into the same environment as Pod pilots you'd have exactly what we now have in the "game". Last, but certainly not least, if you do not like what someone in Eve is doing then get together with a group of like minded people and do something in game about it other than cry to CCP to change the rules. Unfortunately crying seems to be the prevalent form of emergent game play lately... Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:07:00 - [7] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Go back and read Trebor's post again and ask yourself if ganking someone again, after they have already gone ballistic in local once, is now against the rules? As for me, I honestly don't care. There doesn't get to be a "hissy fit shield". If you don't want to get ganked, then you know what to do. ...and that is exactly my point: if you don't like something then do something about it other than cry to CCP... Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:24:00 - [8] - Quote Bunnie Hop wrote: I think CCP merely enforced the rules as they saw them. ...by banning someone who didn't violate an existing rule (Erotica 1, and then did nothing to a player that made death threats (Sokar). For the record: I am not a griefer, suicide ganker, or scammer on this character or via any alts. I will defend all forms of game play though because Eve is supposed to be a sandbox. The duality of that box of sand is spelled out in my signature... Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:30:00 - [9] - Quote Vaju Enki wrote: So let me get this straight, a very famous EvE Online blogger that's also a member of the CSM used his influence and power to start a witch-hunt on another player, for something that happened outside of the game that he condemns. In is moral high ground blog he harassed and persecuted the player, until a shitstorm thread started on the EvE Online forums, where he continued the witchcraft trial. The thread was closed and the player got banned. This makes total sense to me... Pretty much sums it up. I'm now waiting for Rote Kapelle to change their killboard logo. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:42:00 - [10] - Quote Bunnie Hop wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Bunnie Hop wrote: I think CCP merely enforced the rules as they saw them. ...by banning someone who didn't violate an existing rule (Erotica 1, and then did nothing to a player that made death threats (Sokar). For the record: I am not a griefer, suicide ganker, or scammer on this character or via any alts. I will defend all forms of game play though because Eve is supposed to be a sandbox. The duality of that box of sand is spelled out in my signature... I condone griefers and gankers and any other way people find to blow up spaceships and take ISK, its all part of Eve. But when it goes beyond that, which in this case it clearly did, we need to stand together and say 'not here, not in the game we love' and put an end to it. I find Sohkars reaction a bit puzzling but not shocking, alot of people snap under such strain. But that is aside the point, Eve should remain a game in new eden, not one that spills onto other media forms and turns to harassment. That is just my view, I don't want to argue it, I just wanted to express it. (by griefers I mean within the CCP ruleset of gameplay, not by directed harassment). But it wasn't harassment -Sokar volunteered to play Erotica 1's sick game. Could we not all "stand up" by going after people like Erotica 1 in game? Could we not station people in trade hubs and warn newbies about the scams? Why does CCP need to ban someone who, IMHO, did not violate any existing rule? Why did CCP not ban someone who clearly did violate an existing rule? Thing that make you go hmmm. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...

Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:47:00 - [11] - Quote Big Lynx wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Bunnie Hop wrote: I think CCP merely enforced the rules as they saw them. ...by banning someone who didn't violate an existing rule (Erotica 1), and then did nothing to a player that made death threats (Sokar). Again. Listen to the audio record, read shitstorm threadnaught, think, think again, puzzle together a very individual point of view before going with the narrow minded Ero defender thought-terminating clich+¬. Then, try to argue looking on both sides of the medal. Go! Actually I have done that and I reached the conclusions that have driven my posts. I still do not agree with how this situation was handled. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:50:00 - [12] - Quote Bunnie Hop wrote: Well honestly the only thing making me go 'hmmm' is why I am still posting on a dead topic. CCP made the proper choice, the sun is shining and I have no desire to debate anything with you. I wish you well. Fly safe :) Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:52:00 - [13] - Quote Ssieth wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Could we not all "stand up" by going after people like Erotica 1 in game? Could we not station people in trade hubs and warn newbies about the scams? Why does CCP need to ban someone who, IMHO, did not violate any existing rule? Why did CCP not ban someone who clearly did violate an existing rule? Thing that make you go hmmm. Well - the nuggest here is "Why does CCP need to ban someone who, IMHO, did not violate any existing rule?". Basically it's what the rules say and how CCP interpret them that matters - your opinion of them is irrelevant. ...and that's all fine and good until they ban you for something not clearly defined... :) Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 159	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:55:00 - [14] - Quote Nalelmir Ahashion wrote: Dorn Val wrote: But it wasn't harassment -Sokar volunteered to play Erotica 1's sick game. Could we not all "stand up" by going after people like Erotica 1 in game? Could we not station people in trade hubs and warn newbies about the scams? Why does CCP need to ban someone who, IMHO, did not violate any existing rule? Why did CCP not ban someone who clearly did violate an existing rule? Thing that make you go hmmm. Ero1 got all the stuff from that dude BEFORE the game started, are there any proofs online for that bonus room actually yielding winners? actual APIs showing facts and numbers and not random alts posting replies? We don't have those, as far as I know. so we take classic eve scammer approach and we say that the scam was concluded as soon that the victim gave all of his stuff to Ero1 and then we ask why to run this bonus room for over 2 hours when no further gain can be made in in-game assets? for Lol'z and Giggles for the scammer. what's the point then? I'm not defending the way that Erotica 1was playing the game, but I am questioning CCP's reaction to it. Since Erotica1 was banned for breaking a fuzzy rule the Sokar should be banned for breaking one that was clearly defined (making a death threat). Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 160	Posted - 2014.03.29 10:59:00 - [15] - Quote Nalelmir Ahashion wrote: Dorn Val wrote: But it wasn't harassment -Sokar volunteered to play Erotica 1's sick game. Could we not all "stand up" by going after people like Erotica 1 in game? Could we not station people in trade hubs and warn newbies about the scams? Why does CCP need to ban someone who, IMHO, did not violate any existing rule? Why did CCP not ban someone who clearly did violate an existing rule? Thing that make you go hmmm. Ero1 got all the stuff from that dude BEFORE the game started, are there any proofs online for that bonus room actually yielding winners? actual APIs showing facts and numbers and not random alts posting replies? We don't have those, as far as I know. so we take classic eve scammer approach and we say that the scam was concluded as soon that the victim gave all of his stuff to Ero1 and then we ask why to run this bonus room for over 2 hours when no further gain can be made in in-game assets? for Lol'z and Giggles for the scammer. what's the point then? I'm not defending the way that Erotica 1was playing the game, but I am questioning CCP's reaction to it. Since Erotica1 was banned for breaking a fuzzy rule then Sokar should be banned for breaking one that was clearly defined (making a death threat). Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 160	Posted - 2014.03.29 12:31:00 - [16] - Quote Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Dorn Val wrote: I'm not defending the way that Erotica 1was playing the game, but I am questioning CCP's reaction to it. Since Erotica1 was banned for breaking a fuzzy rule He was? Could you link the post where it is explained on what grounds Erotica got banned? Point. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 160	Posted - 2014.03.29 12:35:00 - [17] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: olan2005 wrote: you don't know that he wasn't unlike erotic1 he has not made any public statement. And again E1 got what he wanted the guy snapped said some very reprehensible things , but circumstances mean he should not receive the same level of punishment as E1 So to be clear, you're saying that racism and death threats are OK under some circumstances? Especially when someone got your internet space pixels. I disagree, there is NEVER a reason for that. This ^ Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 162	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:26:00 - [18] - Quote TheGunslinger42 wrote: What I find most vile in all of this is Ripard Tegs underhanded approach to it all. If you don't like Erotica1 and what she did, fair enough. But to abuse his privileged position to push for an individual user to be banned, and then to write a highly inflammatory piece - one which resorts to hysterics and evocations of literal torture - and spreading it around news media when CCP didn't agree with him... that's just revolting on so many levels. ban ripard teg This ^ If he runs for CSM I will support anyone who runs against him. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 162	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:29:00 - [19] - Quote Helena Russell Makanen wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Actually I have done that and I reached the conclusions that have driven my posts. I still do not agree with how this situation was handled. Dorn I think everyone realizes you do not agree with how this situation was handled by now. But if you prefer post it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. I am sure it will change everything. Dorn Val looks at your corporation and wants you to point to the doll and show everyone where the miner bumpers touched you :) Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 162	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:37:00 - [20] - Quote Mario Putzo wrote: I think its funny to see all these carebears going on about harvesting tears. Just goes to show you it was never about keeping the community clean and all about "winning" an internet fight against the boogyman. ...a fight that none of them had the stones to handle on their own... Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...

Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 163	Posted - 2014.03.29 17:59:00 - [21] - Quote Surtr Svartalfsen wrote: As a female Eve player and a gamer of over 30 years, I expect and tolerate a large amount of what might normally be considered harassment. If you ever want to get into W space then put in an application with Probe Patrol. Flying with female pilots is no big deal for us (we have one in the corp currently, and we've been in alliances with several). They are every bit as good in PVP as their male counterparts. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 166	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:16:00 - [22] - Quote Surtr Svartalfsen wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Surtr Svartalfsen wrote: As a female Eve player and a gamer of over 30 years, I expect and tolerate a large amount of what might normally be considered harassment. If you ever want to get into W space then put in an application with Probe Patrol. Flying with female pilots is no big deal for us (we have one in the corp currently, and we've been in alliances with several). They are every bit as good in PVP as their male counterparts. Probe Patrol rocks. I was renting one of your C2 WH and really liked the pilots. My old corp is still there. I gave away my toons sine I wasnt getting any satisfaction from CCP about my issue. I even had letters from other pilots supporting my cause and saying that the dude was over the top. I'm still waiting for some sort of response from CCP, but am feeling a bit bent out of shape since I can't use my old toons that I'd trained for over a year a each. I think my request for toon renaming was very reasonable. If this incident hasn't soured you on the game then you're always welcome in Probe Patrol. I'd hate to see someone drummed out of Eve. Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 166	Posted - 2014.03.29 18:18:00 - [23] - Quote Lucas Kell wrote: Just FYI, Erotica 1's evidence also showed the "victim" hurling real life death threats and racial abuse, as well as several other people on the bonus room side. Seems strange they were so selective in the interpretation of the evidence. It almost seems like they weren't even responding to the evidence at all, but to the public outcry and the CSM with a personal vendetta. I just can't "like" your post enough, and could not have said that better myself! Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 170	Posted - 2014.03.29 19:47:00 - [24] - Quote Helena Russell Makanen wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Helena Russell Makanen wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Actually I have done that and I reached the conclusions that have driven my posts. I still do not agree with how this situation was handled. Dorn I think everyone realizes you do not agree with how this situation was handled by now. But if you prefer post it over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again. I am sure it will change everything. Dorn Val looks at your corporation and wants you to point to the doll and show everyone where the miner bumpers touched you :) IIRC I have only ever seen a miner bumper once across several Eve accounts. He was having a hissy fit in local because he got concorded after bravely firing on an un-armed mining ship. Was kinda cute. LOL. Their tears taste like crispy bacon :) Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 173	Posted - 2014.03.29 20:58:00 - [25] - Quote Jayem See wrote: Danalee wrote: I'll try again: We all know shadoo's outburst. He humiliated a player and called him among other things a ******. IF at that time a CSM would have had an axe to grind and blogged about it you can bet your bottom dollar he'd have no problems finding a couple dozen forum trolls to start a threadnaught. What I know now from what is happened is that CCP would have banned him. Rightly so, the video even has ingame footage, no doubt it happened in EVE online, not on some teamspeak server where they have no control over. Or do you think they wouldn't have? D. Straws. You are grasping at. Actually I think it's an excellent example. How long before CCP closes the Crime and Punishment forum? Are people not being humiliated there? Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 173	Posted - 2014.03.29 21:02:00 - [26] - Quote Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote: Dorn Val wrote: How long before CCP closes the Crime and Punishment forum? Are people not being humiliated there? Not to the point of harassment. How can you tell? Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 173	Posted - 2014.03.29 21:05:00 - [27] - Quote Salvos Rhoska wrote: Dorn Val wrote: How can you tell? Cos they haven't been banned. Seriously made me laugh out loud! :) Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 176	Posted - 2014.03.29 21:29:00 - [28] - Quote Sentamon wrote: Salvos Rhoska wrote: Dorn Val wrote: How can you tell? Cos they haven't been banned. Maybe they're saving the ban till another CSM makes a torture post. Ouch it burns! :) Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 177	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:10:00 - [29] - Quote Bael Malefic wrote: Liese Shardani wrote: Tor Norman wrote: Seemed to work well for him. I'd like to convince more of my coworkers and friends to try EVE, but if I had to answer the question of "Well, what do you DO in EVE?" with tales of begging in Jita and luring people to the glorious Bonus Round, not only would they not want to try the game but they'd also think I was not someone they want to be around. I continue to be amazed that anyone's willing to defend the practice. There are plenty of basement dwelling social misfits and closet sociopaths who will defend it. Life is filled with all kinds of people, some bad and some good. So do you stay in your house all day afraid to go outside? Eve is more simulation than game and a reflection of what would happen if you put people in the environment that pod pilots are in. Think "Lord of the Flys". Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...
Dorn Val Probe Patrol Awakened. 177	Posted - 2014.03.30 08:34:00 - [30] - Quote Goa Chai wrote: Dorn Val wrote: Life is filled with all kinds of people, some bad and some good. So do you stay in your house all day afraid to go outside? Eve is more simulation than game and a reflection of what would happen if you put people in the environment that pod pilots are in. Think "Lord of the Flys". So.... who wants to be PIggy? Piggy saw the world not as it was but how he wanted it to be, so I'd guess that most of the high sec Care Bears could play the part... Sandbox: An enclosed area filled with sand for children engaged in open-ended, unstructured, imaginative play. Also a place for cats to urinate and defecate...