As long as Erotica isn't getting away with this without consequences. I am a happy camper.

Even more happier that it is now very crystal clear to everyone that what occurred is not tolerated by CCP.

Thank you very much CCP, faith restored.

As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement.

Yes a CCP cave in to the power block

Except for Mittens. That was speshul.

I'm not quitting asshat

CCP did. They made it amazingly clear that it was a one-time ever thing, too.

tree fiddy

Maybe you should refrain from asking me to leave the game.

Likewise.

Whatever

I'm quitting because CCP didn't do nothing here really.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=332182&p=380

post #7584

Rather than argue the point with your relentlessly disingenuous and tasteless self, i would simply advise you that everything you post will be viewed in that post-meltdown light.
Maybe once you've goaded someone to end themselves, without that being the aim of course, just a bit of fun, maybe then you can comfort yourself with some version of victim blaming. Or maybe the guilt will eat you down to the bone.

And you might be absolutely right thing is it's always like that :)
I make games myself and while I'm not a supercorp I use every single input I can get to make people enjoy it.
I answer questions as they are asked. Clear, because it's simple and leaves no room for speculation and in this case we all kinda needed that. Scammers so they can go on hard on people and those noobs that will fall for it.
As of now it's exactly like it was before and only thing that will change is people will not post recorded **** back :)

Aftershocks is a brand of shot-liquer here so thats doubly confusing lol

Good point. All I have is one of these little gag bottles of wine I got for valentines day. Bottoms up!



I'm so very scared right now.....

Yet, after all this time you still haven't stopped, looked in the mirror and wondered, why? Time for some personal development perhaps?

I DON'T THINK THAT EROTICAL WILL BE BANNED BECAUSE THAT WOULD OPEN BIGGER CAN OF WHUPASS THAN ANYTHING YOU CAN EVER IMAGINED. THIS LITTLE BITCHFORKING EPISODE BY RIPARD TEGS'S LITTLE MINIONS WILL BE A DROP IN THE OCAEN COMPARED TO TAKING AWAY EROTICA1LS GAME TIME.

Sounds hot


Tell me more about CAN EAT MORE

edit: Is this some sort of after-assed falseflag or something?

PLAESE THIS IS A SERIOUS DISCUSSION AND AGREE WITH STEVE ABOUT EVERYONE SITTING DOWN FOR A DRINK TOEGETHER. WHAT I TRY TO SAY IS THIS ANNOUNCEMENT PROBABLY TO ME JUST SAY CARRY ON PLAY EVE BUT IF YOU WANT TO DO SCAMS AND STUFF DON'T GO ON TEAMSPAENK AND ADD THE SOUND TO A VIRTUAL CLOUD IF THAT MAKES SENSE I THINK AT ALL SAID IT DOES.

Likewise, I have always enjoyed a good ole' debate. Some kind of satisfaction is to be had breaking down ones argument, though I prefer strong arguments over the weaker ones. Otherwise, where is the challenge?

Agree to disagree I say!

Now it becomes clear that we are dealing with a 12 year old. Wait until you are a bit older and you might look back and understand what I said.

WTF is wrong here? Why did I get a boner reading these words? I need a cold shower now.

I would gladly have a drink and a laugh with any other participant of the threadnaught, including Erotica1, except you.

No way, no how.

I dont think so.

Oh great, another imminent threadnaught of people too busy waving placards to understand two basic principles of online games.

CCP will never make a definitive list of what is or is not harassment, griefing, exploits etc... because a) every case is different, and b) don't ever lock yourself into arbitrary precedents.

CCP will never tell you what actions they have or have not taken against any particular pilot, corporation, alliance, account or player. Confidentiality. It's a thing.

Good few folks round here need to the keyboard down and step away from the internet...

It's sunny outside. See ya.

o/

I know exactly. I dont drink or associate with a person like you. I wouldnt even give you the time of day.

Thats that.

Good Talk

Now... what happens to our two lovebirds?

Namely:
Erotica1 - who has committed harassment of bannable to life proportions
Sohkar - who -although enraged beyond measure at that point- posted life threats on the voice chat

So what now?
To punish them both (Ero1 - life ban, Soh - 30 days ban) would be a hard but justifiable course of action.

As always, CCP will not discuss specific cases of policy enforcement. However, if you have any questions regarding this statement, please feel free to pose them in this thread, and we will respond to the best of our ability.

Who I choose to drink with, is my business. And doesn't make me a "bad" guy, no matter how you twist it.
But gf for making me respond.

Seeing as none of it is true, it is not helpful at all :)

Nowhere there does it say I would take pleasure from harm coming to Erotica1, nor have I incited violence anywhere.

You can imply it all you want. Doesn't change the above.

So no ganking without explaining to your target why and how to prevent it.

And in the rare cases where your target needs some time before he/she realizes how he/she feels about the ordeal it's harrasment.

Can you, just to be as clear as possible, state which timeperiod you have in mind between the act of ganking/scamming/asking to sing songs and the discovery of the target that his/her feelings have been hurt?

D.

I would be laughing at and applauding the vindication of the abused on their abuser.
If you abuse people in an out of game context, and they exact retribution, from my perspective, you had it coming.
My "moral fibre" on this matter is very clear cut and distinct.
Does not mean I incentivise or enjoy any suffering resulting from it.

Never ever?
Seems the failed lawyer's slap on the wrist was made public.
CCP simply wants this issue to quietly die, and by pumping out double-speak, and then shutting up about it, who knows what they did or did not do.

If erotica1 or his cohorts show up again, soon, we will know that CCP considers sociopaths an important part of their subscription base.

If that char does not show up again, well, all we know is could be he lying low, or could be simply using new chars to do the same thing as before, or they actually did banhammer him. But without comment from CCP, nothing can be certain, and the kind of behaviour exhibited by the psycho will continue in Eve.

Never ever?
Seems the failed lawyer's slap on the wrist was made public.
CCP simply wants this issue to quietly die, and by pumping out double-speak, and then shutting up about it, who knows what they did or did not do.

If erotica1 or his cohorts show up again, soon, we will know that CCP considers sociopaths an important part of their subscription base.

If that char does not show up again, well, all we know is could be he lying low, or could be simply using new chars to do the same thing as before, or they actually did banhammer him. But without comment from CCP, nothing can be certain, and the kind of behaviour exhibited by the psycho will continue in Eve.

you know what F*UCK YOU

Why did you change your post? look at all the worms that are now coming out? its patheric and sad. As soon as CCP make an announcement, you retards start coming out defending what people have done. Sad really really sad. Youre lowlife scum.

Trebor, is freedom of speech inviolate or are you one of those that believes in 'hate speech'?

You see, for many of us we see freedoms like free speech and sandbox as absolute. Free speech laws were created to protect impolite speech, not polite speech. You cannot hamper freedom of speech with pansied 'hate speech' laws or equivocations that neuter it, without the cost of infringing on the base freedom itself.

Selfsame, who the frack are you to say how Erotica1 should play his game? I say his game, because the bonus round was very much IN GAME.

At it's core Sohkar willingly took part in a bonus round on Teamspeak (and hung in there) in the context of EvE meta gameplay, in pursuit of moar EvE assets (or their recovery). That is IN GAME Trebor.

He was not negotiating for frequent flyer miles, or losing his blob because he couldn't solve the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, he lost his blob while metagaming for EvE ISK/assets! In game.

Now remember, you said 'douchebaggery in-game 'OK', and 'douchebaggery out-of-game NOT OK', but I insist Sohkar's bonus round was very much in game.

tldr;
Let's cut to the chase, you don't *like* what Erotica1 did and like all liberal pansies before you who selfsame invented 'hate speech' laws to infringe on freedom of speech laws when your feelings got hurt, you would see the EvE sandbox continue to crumble over time with little nerfs here and there...

Well I reject that, I reject you, so will shoot another innocent carebear in the face (in game of course) in your honor. That is MY EvE. +1 added to the Kill-It-Forward queue, and may GOD have mercy on your soul.

F

Yeah, I've known some wizards in my time.
The Bonus Room design is pretty much exactly the kind of thing decades of sexual frustration as a man-child results in

Not enough edge brah. Try harder.

I have plenty. Thanks!

Are you a wizard? You seem to be taking this very personally.

I think the Bonus Room design is pants-on-head ********.
I think its designers are obviously an elite and select group of 30lvl wizards.

Thats my opinion. If you don't like it, too bad!

Come back to Bleak Lands and i'll tell you. Haven't seen you since you ran from system as soon as I showed up in local.

He is a sadistic sociopath, of course he would.

Oh the delicious sociopath tears in this thread.

Disputing Dev actions is against forum rules.

He gave you three valid reasons, among which that your thread got locked because "I'm Leaving" threads belong in OPE.

Keep digging yourself deeper.

Yeah I dislike Pollard but he has a point. Someone dox'd the guy. Like, what the ****? What the actual ****? Do they operate in lowsec?

He gave you three valid reasons.

Then you broke forum rules again by disputing his action here.

Why are you deliberately breaking rules?

Where did CCP say that Erotica 1 was banned because of the TS recordings?

Ctrl-C + Ctrl-V = leet debating skills

Where did Erotica 1 say he got banned because of the TS recordings?

Does that mean you don't actually know why Erotica 1 got banned? If you do, feel free to link a post (here or on minerbumping.com) by him stating why he got banned.

Proof and citation needed.

You have not proved why Erotica1 was banned, anywhere.

None of your posts have provided any such evidence or proof.

Explain your earlier comments in this thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4405578#post4405578
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4405639#post4405639
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4405738#post4405738

In all of these you claim that nobody knows the reasons for actions that CCP takes, because they do not discuss how they enact their policy on the part of individual players.

Are you going back on your word now?

Are you now claiming to KNOW why Erotica1 was banned, AGAINST what you have said in these earlier posts?

If so, where is your evidence or proof to support your claims of why Erotica1 was banned?

You are doubletalking and falling on your own sword.

That in addition to already claiming you are leaving, and deliberately and repeatedly disputing a Devs locking of the thread in which you announced it, even though he provided 3 legitimate reasons for doing so.

SLAM DUNK
SIT DOWN, SON!

Rekt.

Leave as you said you would, while you have even a single shred of dignity or credibility left.

Do you have evidence that CCP had knowledge of this incident back in february? Do you have evidence that CCP didn't do anything prior to the announcement yesterday? Could it be that CCP asked the opinions of the CSM prior to acting?

...sociopaths of this game...

I take that as a "No" then. Case closed.

You didn't provide any evidence that CCP didn't do anything prior to the announcement. And I fail to see how a post on some random minerbumping forum constitue evidence that CCP had knowledge of this incident.

Well you might get banned for stupidity because look at your sig. Whining like a ***** when you have that sig just puts you first in line at the ban wagon.

Mr Epeen