Health.

150k health is rather normal for a BS.

You are not getting anywhere near that with your cruiser / battlecruiser size ships.

So the roll is pure brute force on the dps/health ratio of your team.

Twice the health? Yes plz.

Other things like drones / neuting power are nice too.

I take the Megathron and barely break 550 dps with Rails or 700 with blasters, Yes you can use void and get over 800 but your ability to hit anything without being right on top of it doesnt exist.

I had a battleship.
It rolled a 6.

3 Mags, Full rack T2 Neutrons, Faction Antimatter (Cal Navy) Pulls a little over 800
Switch ammo to Void just barely 900 with a max range of 12km

The Battleship - is the king of the battlefield. It gives you the most damage and tank per unit of isk. If you have seen the large sov battles in the west involving CFC vs. NC. you would have seen massive megathron fleets.

Why?

They do great damage, track very well and at the end of the day are easily mass produced with very little effort. The Hyperion is a close range heavy tackle and brawl ship. It does feature a full drone bay...your choice of heavy/sentry or mix of others for utility. It can also be fit for fleet and push out an astounding 1300-1400 dps like the mega but with poorer tracking.

Rokh fleets are still in use today thanks to their decent damage alongside a truly ridiculous optimal range. The fact is that they can project short range damage over a very long distance. Blasters out to 50KM or so and rails with antimatter to 70 or even 80km.

Many of these ships are meant for fleet combat. You can still solo but you have to scout and use some care. Battleships are not fast, nor agile and with the warp speed changes are even more easily captured. A skilled BS pilot will be very cautious in solo situations. With the new large micro jump drive module you have available to you a new level of maneuverability. Most ships are required to get within energy neutralizer range of you if they want to hold you down.

Bs's are not always the right tool, but for the discerning pilot in K-space they are the most flexible tool in the shed.

-1. Most of what you wrote is nonsense.

The reason they're used in fleet fights is lag and the enemy's sig. They have enough buffer, they're easy to lock for RR and they have buffer so you have time to lock and rep them. They can apply all their DPS to caps.

In non fleet fights they're pretty much useless. In solo they're completely useless.

A very telling indication is how often you see a ship in null outside of fleet fights. There are no battleships in null for solo, small or even mid to large gangs. You just don't see them anymore unless they're PvE.

Solo battleships are rare... but not unheard of. Machs are obvious, but the Phoons are also up there, as are Armageddons.

They really work better with a scout but when your on a null sec wage theyre quite fun

I haven't seen a single battleship in pvp in the last 3 months of play in Stain. Just dont' see them. I'm current in one but smartbombing Rokh for relic sites, other than that anything you run into will warp off before you can lock them. Even two sensor boosters on a battleship with scripts will barely get you past a BC with no sensor booster. You'll only catch afk'rs imo.

3 Mags, Full rack T2 Neutrons, Faction Antimatter (Cal Navy) Pulls a little over 800
Switch ammo to Void just barely 900 with a max range of 12km

-1. Most of what you wrote is nonsense.

The reason they're used in fleet fights is lag and the enemy's sig. They have enough buffer, they're easy to lock for RR and they have buffer so you have time to lock and rep them. They can apply all their DPS to caps.

In non fleet fights they're pretty much useless. In solo they're completely useless.

A very telling indication is how often you see a ship in null outside of fleet fights. There are no battleships in null for solo, small or even mid to large gangs. You just don't see them anymore unless they're PvE.

This from a troll living in True Coward space.

I routinely PVP in various null-sec locations (yay wormholes) and often come across battleships in both PvE and PvP situations. Frequently people are in dominix (drones+flexible slot layout) means it is highly adaptable. Unless your interceptor has a cap injector or a nos...this varies person to person...it can be quite hard to keep them on the field. Ravens are still popular. In w-space we normally only take out battleships for defensive purposes and even then usually bhaalgorns and vindis due to neuts and heavy webs respectively. We also occasionally do small hyperion fleets for fun. People have a tendency to blob a BS though more than anything else.

#feartheBS

This from a troll living in True Coward space.

I routinely PVP in various null-sec locations (yay wormholes) and often come across battleships in both PvE and PvP situations. Frequently people are in dominix (drones+flexible slot layout) means it is highly adaptable. Unless your interceptor has a cap injector or a nos...this varies person to person...it can be quite hard to keep them on the field. Ravens are still popular. In w-space we normally only take out battleships for defensive purposes and even then usually bhaalgorns and vindis due to neuts and heavy webs respectively. We also occasionally do small hyperion fleets for fun. People have a tendency to blob a BS though more than anything else.

#feartheBS

Health.

150k health is rather normal for a BS.

You are not getting anywhere near that with your cruiser / battlecruiser size ships.

So the roll is pure brute force on the dps/health ratio of your team.

Twice the health? Yes plz.

Other things like drones / neuting power are nice too.

150k EHP is good and all, but if that's the primary selling point, there's issues.