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Butter Dog
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Posted - 2006.05.05 13:37:00 -
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If you want to not be killed in fluffy ISS happy land, get your character to join a corp.
If you want to see a player-built station (we call them outposts), the ISS ones are your best bet. We don't kill neutral corps, you can dock up and use our station facilities, and even call the place home if you wish.
We in ISSN will even do our best to protect you from pirates when you are in the system.
ASCN outposts won't even allow you to dock.
See you in KDF-GY :)
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:09:00 -
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ahh yes the great hate for starter corps because everyone is a spy, new players dont exist in EVE.
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Gaul Cascade
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:23:00 -
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Edited by: Gaul Cascade on 05/05/2006 14:23:11 What business do 3 day old new players have in 0.0 anyway? They can not break the tank of the NPCs, thus they can not NPC or mine. Then what? Trade? Not going to move around much with a frigate. Not to mention the ability to defend themselves against a pirate.
Nothing against new players. Let them hang around in a schooling corp so that they can learn what the game is about. After that, they can join a player-run corporation, which should let them experience much more of the game. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Cascade للللللللiss NAVY |

Artilleur Mi
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:32:00 -
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2006.05.05. 07:19
Victim : Artilleur Mi Alliance : None Corp : Republic Military School Destroyed : gallente shuttle System : Jamanda Security : 0.0
Involved parties :
Name : Valtron (laid final blow) Security : 4.7 Alliance : Interstellar Starbase syndicate Corp : White nova Industries Ship : Thorax Weapons : 280 mm 'scout' Artillery 1
Name : Soul3t Security : 3.6 Alliance : Interstellar Starbase syndicate Corp : White nova industries Ship : Blackbird Weapons : Havoc Heavy Missile
Name : Arneale Security : 4.8 Alliance : Interstellar Starbase syndicate corp : White nova industries Ship : Rifter Weapons : Rifter
Name : Hube Security : 5.0 Alliance : Interstellar Starbase syndicate Corp : White nova industries Ship : Rifter Weapons : Rifter
Same parties pod kill me some secondes after that, but to much long to write again. If you need the killmail i can sent to you.
Yes it was my fault, yes im in corps npc, both my main and my alt, doenst make me a ebil pirates. But i understand they kill what is needed to protect their home.
You know when i saw ISS guys in space, my first thought it was 'yes i know im in security with this group' but apparently not.
Anyway ill be right back , but not on weekend, to much suicidal or might go anyway 
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Artilleur Mi
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:33:00 -
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"What business do 3 day old new players have in 0.0 anyway?"
curiosity 
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Gaul Cascade
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Posted - 2006.05.05 14:37:00 -
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Good to be curious - and hey, we don't shoot you outside of systems with ISS sovereignity. Besides, if you keep on the move, there's no way we can catch a shuttle, unless there's a bubble involved. ----------------------------------------------------------------- Cascade للللللللiss NAVY |

Artilleur Mi
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Posted - 2006.05.05 15:08:00 -
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i didnt have instajumps or bookmark, fly with autopilot and they got me when i approch gate to jump.
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Hardin
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Posted - 2006.05.05 15:16:00 -
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If you want to go sightseeing in EVE without getting podded then there is nothing better than an Executioner with two internal nanofibres and an MWD. It starts warping before it even uncloaks and on the other end MWD will push it up over 5000m/s in the dash for the gate. It's pretty much uncatchable...
--------------------------------- Smiting pirates and terrorists since Sept 2003
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Alekto Erinys
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Posted - 2006.05.05 15:25:00 -
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Alright, I may be missing something here, but I really don't understand this entire paranoia about "spys and alts." I mean, what kind of damage can a noob alt do in 0.0? Many times I've sent a noob alt of mine to explore, and see what's out there in 0.0. Not trying to argue, just asking for some examples.
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Nyphur
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Posted - 2006.05.05 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Hardin If you want to go sightseeing in EVE without getting podded then there is nothing better than an Executioner with two internal nanofibres and an MWD. It starts warping before it even uncloaks and on the other end MWD will push it up over 5000m/s in the dash for the gate. It's pretty much uncatchable...
3000 to 4000.
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Pika Eadesso
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Posted - 2006.05.05 16:12:00 -
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I'm currently waayy up in empire so didn't see this, but I was keping an eye on Allaince chat all night and today. Every few mins there was something about gate camps and who likes who, so I assume there was fighting going on somewhere. Maybe you just picked the wrong gate to jump through and ISS pilots got spooked after fighting?
I can see why they would have fired if there was indeed fighting there, but if not you might wanna check this out.
Also posting kill mails is bad I belive. You have to omit certain names.
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James Don
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Posted - 2006.05.05 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Alekto Erinys Alright, I may be missing something here, but I really don't understand this entire paranoia about "spys and alts." I mean, what kind of damage can a noob alt do in 0.0? Many times I've sent a noob alt of mine to explore, and see what's out there in 0.0. Not trying to argue, just asking for some examples.
Actually a hell of alot, what ppl do is send a new player (spy/alt) out to a system, they will then spend a few days getting intel on the names / ships ppl fly so they know who is where and flys what, they then bring a fleet to counter it.
Option 2 is to fly said new player into the fleet to grab intel on what ships are there and when they destroy them what weapons they used.
So in reality can a noob in a shuttle cause physical damage? no, it can do much much worse. -------------------------------------------- notify : Your cloaking systems are unable to activate due to your ship being within 2000 meters of the nearby Snowballs. |

Beringe
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Posted - 2006.05.05 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Alekto Erinys Alright, I may be missing something here, but I really don't understand this entire paranoia about "spys and alts." I mean, what kind of damage can a noob alt do in 0.0? Many times I've sent a noob alt of mine to explore, and see what's out there in 0.0. Not trying to argue, just asking for some examples.
Everyone uses noob alts to explore/scout. That's sort of the point.
The only thing you know about noob alts in a friendly system is that they don't belong to a friendly corporation. ISS doesn't even shoot at neutrals, so someone in a neutral corp scouting out their systems would be left alone (presumably)! Therefore, the only logical conclusion they can make about noob alts is that they are hostile.
Besides, it's better to be safe than sorry in these matters. Also, shooting down a noob alt in a shuttle will hurt noone financially, so you might say that it is a victimless crime. ------------------------------------------- "Never underestimate the power of language."
--Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles-- |

Artilleur Mi
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Posted - 2006.05.05 20:00:00 -
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Now be ready , im coming back in 10 min :)
destination : Zs-2lt
woot woot :)
Great ascn station , here i come 
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Karth Onassi
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Posted - 2006.05.05 21:51:00 -
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The 30 ship travelling together into 0.0 sounds interesting! It reminds me of the Angry Farmer/Lumberjack raids we had in UO. A whole bunch of brand new alt chars dressed up like the theme of the night running around trying to kill higher lvl things. Ah the good 'ol days...
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Artilleur Mi
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Posted - 2006.05.05 21:57:00 -
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i Did it 
37 jumps into dangerous 0.0 and i enter with my "shuttle of magic 2 " in ascn space and took a look at the station. (look pretty cool)
Got rapidly warp scramble by ascn members, but they talk to me before bbq my precious ship. They are nice :)
Didnt have time to go to see a 0.0 belt, but i saw all those ebil pirates npc that patrol stargates 
my corpse still floting in front of station, proof of my little accomplishment loll.
o well, any other dangerous place i can fly too ?
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Volatar
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Posted - 2006.05.05 22:13:00 -
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Originally by: Artilleur Mi i Did it 
37 jumps into dangerous 0.0 and i enter with my "shuttle of magic 2 " in ascn space and took a look at the station. (look pretty cool)
Got rapidly warp scramble by ascn members, but they talk to me before bbq my precious ship. They are nice :)
Didnt have time to go to see a 0.0 belt, but i saw all those ebil pirates npc that patrol stargates 
my corpse still floting in front of station, proof of my little accomplishment loll.
o well, any other dangerous place i can fly too ?
what system was it mgith i ask, i want your corpse hehe
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Artilleur Mi
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Posted - 2006.05.05 22:16:00 -
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right in front of dragonfly station :)
Zs-2Lt
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Artilleur Mi
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Posted - 2006.05.05 22:17:00 -
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They didnt let me the time to put some graphic letter on the wall of the station 
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.05.06 04:30:00 -
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Stuck an alt in a shuttle awhile back ad he AFK auto piloted some 30 or so jumps into tenal. started heading back to empire and ended up asking someone who was ratting to pod me.
Originally by: Dark Shikari Istvaan Shogaatsu's ego, when combined with a veldspar asteroid, would create 500 titans. Too bad he's never mined.
RAWR!11 Sig Hijack!11 - Imaran |

Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.05.06 04:53:00 -
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a mass shuttle run would be funny if you got like 300 people. imagine the look on the smartbombless guards when 300 shuttles arrive.
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2006.05.06 05:51:00 -
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Anything not CONFIRMED friendly MUST be assumed hostile.
It is the job of the perosn that is weaker to "prove" he is not hostile.
nature of the game in 0.0.
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Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2006.05.06 09:34:00 -
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We had a conversation about shooting alts in the ISS alliance chat yesterday, and nobody really seemed to know whether or not shoot them. Usually, if a 1 day old player in a shuttle shows up and starts flying around an outpost, it's a spy alt. Many people shoot all 1 day old players in shuttles cause they will probably be spy alts. Some even want to shoot older NPC corp players. Generally, I would not enetr any alliance space if I'm a new player in the NPC corp. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, and not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes |

Jowen Datloran
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Posted - 2006.05.06 18:55:00 -
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I'm glad it got clear that I should not try to transport a Mastodont filled with cruise missiles and spike ammo to the ISS stations because I'll most likely get shot down by the people I were trying to supply.
Seems like another alliance have fallen to the guide lines of the "hot heads" and the so called "promotion of 0.0 to everybody" were no more than fancy words. ---------------- Main as main can be. |

Arkanor
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Posted - 2006.05.06 19:20:00 -
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Quote:
-- An ISS pilot is targeted, are under direct threat or their assets under threat
How do you not do that if they target you? Your ship targets back... ________________________________________________
\_/ <-- My care cup, LOOK it's empty! |

Jacinto Naysmith
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Posted - 2006.05.06 19:41:00 -
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Most alliances operate off a NBSI policy, or "Not blue? Shoot it" with only a couple of exceptions. For the most part this is a necessity of living in 0.0. There are a large amount of newbie NPC corp characters in 0.0, and the vast majority of them are scout alts collecting info to be used against you.
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Acheron Cyc
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Posted - 2006.05.06 20:03:00 -
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Originally by: Gaul Cascade Edited by: Gaul Cascade on 05/05/2006 14:23:11 What business do 3 day old new players have in 0.0 anyway? They can not break the tank of the NPCs, thus they can not NPC or mine. Then what? Trade? Not going to move around much with a frigate. Not to mention the ability to defend themselves against a pirate.
Nothing against new players. Let them hang around in a schooling corp so that they can learn what the game is about. After that, they can join a player-run corporation, which should let them experience much more of the game.
What if the char is a few months old or even a year and still in the noobcorp and decides to go to 0.0 just for kicks, would he be shot to even if it a year old?
------------------------------------------ "To do something right it must be done twice. The first time instructs the second." Simon Bolivar.
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Jacinto Naysmith
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Posted - 2006.05.06 20:18:00 -
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Originally by: Acheron Cyc
Originally by: Gaul Cascade Edited by: Gaul Cascade on 05/05/2006 14:23:11 What business do 3 day old new players have in 0.0 anyway? They can not break the tank of the NPCs, thus they can not NPC or mine. Then what? Trade? Not going to move around much with a frigate. Not to mention the ability to defend themselves against a pirate.
Nothing against new players. Let them hang around in a schooling corp so that they can learn what the game is about. After that, they can join a player-run corporation, which should let them experience much more of the game.
What if the char is a few months old or even a year and still in the noobcorp and decides to go to 0.0 just for kicks, would he be shot to even if it a year old?
A number of people are lazy and dont recycle and create a new character for scouting since it would mean copying bookmarks. Months old players in newbie corps are far from being unlikely scouts.
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Artilleur Mi
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Posted - 2006.05.07 09:32:00 -
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yes i finally join a big alliance with my main. But i have to contain myself now, dont want to create diplomatic incidents and be shoot again by my new alliance  
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