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Grand Formage
The Planetary Baron Society
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:41:00 -
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DrysonBennington wrote:Correct, A junked POS is no different than a rusty vehicle left along side of the road for months on end along a backwoods country road.
Obviously the owner is not going to return so it should be able to be taken and made money off of. A junked POS should be no different.
What about abandoned PI facilities which I am certain there are a few around as well?
As it stands, the abandoned PI facilities are not relevant to anything. You can even place your structures on top of another players and never know it or see any different results. The ONLY thing that will affect you and your pi is when an extractor is pulling materials at the same location as yours, otherwize, it is as if you were there all by yourself. |
Grand Formage
The Planetary Baron Society
17
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Posted - 2014.05.06 17:44:00 -
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Grand Formage wrote:[quote=DrysonBennington]Correct, A junked POS is no different than a rusty vehicle left along side of the road for months on end along a backwoods country road.
Obviously the owner is not going to return so it should be able to be taken and made money off of. A junked POS should be no different.
What about abandoned PI facilities which I am certain there are a few around as well?
Actually, I originally thought that this is part of what the Dust514 was going to be about, or involving, sorta like CC or Starcraft on and against PI/Planet owner/facilities, not just a FPS. |
Grayland Aubaris
Ocellus Technology
Tiger Cats
60
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:06:00 -
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Grand Formage wrote:Sigras wrote:Why is war deccing the corp and blowing the tower up not a good enough moon reclamation mechanic?
In fact if you dont want to do it yourself you can pay mercs to do it for you. The issue is that some people want tower removal with no effort and time investment. The mechanic should stay the way it is. you want that moon, work for it.
Actually I think the OP's post was to allow people to 'steal' dead POS's, as in ones that have been un-fuelled for x amount of time - not as an 'easy' way to remove POS's but as a new profession of hacking and taking / selling a POS that has been abandoned by the owners.
In theory the hacking and removal of a POS should take 24+ hours, so that the owners have chance to respond, and you can only hack and remove POS's that have been left for a certain amount of time without fuel or use - making it very easy for a corp to protect their POS by returning to it to defend it.
You also still have the option to shoot it, which would be quicker, but then you couldn't steal the stuff.
I think I suggested a new deployable structure to facilitate this further back in the thread, since CCP want things to drive conflict then this idea would be perfect - since nobody wants their stuff stolen .... |
Caleb Seremshur
Capital Storm.
Black Flag Society
244
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:10:00 -
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Offline timer:
after 28 days without being fueled the POS becomes attackable by players, giving a weapons timer + capsuleer combat timer + suspect timer but no concord intervention.
You want something? Fight for it. Nothing should be free - and btw your skills are just a time sink, they're in no way representative of any quantifiable effort you actually invested. Saying you should be allowed to hack a tower in to submission is just a cop out excuse and is totally not representative of the energy required to launch a tower in the first place.
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Lephia DeGrande
Luxembourg Space Union
373
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:31:00 -
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Would prefer destroying (fast and without concord) over reclaiming but overall, +1!
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Grayland Aubaris
Ocellus Technology
Tiger Cats
60
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Posted - 2014.05.06 18:47:00 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Offline timer:
You want something? Fight for it. Nothing should be free - and btw your skills are just a time sink, they're in no way representative of any quantifiable effort you actually invested. Saying you should be allowed to hack a tower in to submission is just a cop out excuse and is totally not representative of the energy required to launch a tower in the first place.
I suggested a mobile platform that is freely attackable by anyone that costs circa 25 Million that has to sit in place for 24 hours or more to make a tower that is 'abandoned' vulnerable to be being stolen. That's your investment there.
See my previous post for how this would work: https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4422704#post4422704 |
Arronicus
Ravens' Nest
Outlaw Horizon.
946
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Posted - 2014.05.06 21:15:00 -
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In favour of long attended to towers becoming fair game for shooting by anyone, or simply vanishing, but strongly against being able to capture and take an anchored tower. |
Kate Blaze
True Power Capsuleers
16
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Posted - 2014.05.06 23:19:00 -
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Offline tower should simply disappear after 30 days. You don't fuel, you don't get anything. |
TigerXtrm
Black Thorne Corporation
Black Thorne Alliance
675
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Posted - 2014.05.07 09:11:00 -
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Sigras wrote:Why is war deccing the corp and blowing the tower up not a good enough moon reclamation mechanic?
In fact if you dont want to do it yourself you can pay mercs to do it for you.
Well I can see an issue where someone exploits the current mechanics by abandoning a tower, waiting for an incoming wardec to remove it and making it mutual so the attacking party is stuck with the dec for as long as the defender wants.
This might be easily circumvented by hiring a few mercs to do it, but it is a potential issue. Though I highly doubt that is going to happen extremely much.
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Rhavas
Future Corps
Sleeper Social Club
295
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Posted - 2014.05.08 04:45:00 -
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Grand Formage wrote:Sigras wrote:Why is war deccing the corp and blowing the tower up not a good enough moon reclamation mechanic?
In fact if you dont want to do it yourself you can pay mercs to do it for you. The issue is that some people want tower removal maintenance with no effort and time investment. The mechanic should stay the way it is be revisited. you want that moon, work for it.
Fixed for you.
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Shattered Planets, Wormholes and Game Commentary |
Sigras
Conglomo
754
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Posted - 2014.05.08 05:11:00 -
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Rhavas wrote:Grand Formage wrote:Sigras wrote:Why is war deccing the corp and blowing the tower up not a good enough moon reclamation mechanic?
In fact if you dont want to do it yourself you can pay mercs to do it for you. The issue is that some people want tower removal maintenance with no effort and time investment. The mechanic should stay the way it is be revisited. you want that moon, work for it. Fixed for you.
Wrong, the corp is exposing one of their assets to danger. Additionally they presumably took that spot from someone else.
The corp took the initiative to take that spot and is exposing their tower to danger; you want it gone, you remove it. |
oohthey ioh
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
13
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Posted - 2014.05.08 06:05:00 -
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don't like the idea of it, i think bashing it or paying some do it for is better. |
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