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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6786
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:09:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Supercarriers are getting a nerf. They need to use 2 lows for DDA2's to maintain their current damage level. That means Aeons and Nyx's either have significantly reduced damage (-40%) or must sacrifice a HUGE amount of tank (-2 Hardeners) to maintain their current damage output.
That's one hell of a ******* nerf!
on the other hand, it's no longer trivial to defang them
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6786
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:14:00 -
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Gizznitt Malikite wrote:Weaselior wrote:Gizznitt Malikite wrote:
Supercarriers are getting a nerf. They need to use 2 lows for DDA2's to maintain their current damage level. That means Aeons and Nyx's either have significantly reduced damage (-40%) or must sacrifice a HUGE amount of tank (-2 Hardeners) to maintain their current damage output.
That's one hell of a ******* nerf!
on the other hand, it's no longer trivial to defang them Don't take my post wrong... I fully support this change, as I think all ships should have to make fitting choices. This puts real fitting choices on the super pilot: Heavy tank vs Heavy Damage (for armor supers at least).
I more disagree they're getting a nerf. I think in practice the two changes combine to buff supercarriers. Sure, nyx/aeon paper dps goes down if they're fitting full tank, but in practice they'd just get their fbs bombed away anytime they were in a fight they'd fit for tank. So the net benefit is they get more real DPS in a slugfight, and more dps in a gank.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6786
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:20:00 -
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Jeinvay Kunsu wrote:WHY would you reduce the super-carrier drone amounts from 20 to 10, when the carriers, which are a hull class BELOW supers, can field 15? I wouldn't be so baffled by the supercarrier drone
because any supercarrier pilot prefers one fb with double the hp and damage to two fbs with normal hp and damage
the reason why is that bombers love bombing fighter-bombers and with the double hp fb it is much harder to bomb away all your dps
basically use your noggin instead of your feels when it comes to numbers
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6786
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:22:00 -
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penifSMASH wrote:What racial drone spec skill will affect Shadow bombers?
none: they are t1
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6786
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Posted - 2014.04.01 18:26:00 -
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Is the massive bonus for DCUs on supercarriers intended? I think it makes sense, just wondering if it's intentional or liable to be changed.
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6793
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Posted - 2014.04.01 19:38:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Do you seriously think that he EVER considers new players when wrecking a system in game?
Really? Just look at his track record.
in addition to your habit of always using the currently overpowered pve thing every single time it is also strange that you have been a new player for years
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6793
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Posted - 2014.04.01 20:04:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
That is one of many differences between us.
Yes, I consider the NPE when looking at changes to it, because I care about the future of the game.
You and your kind only look at new players as cattle to exploit.
our alliance is built on those "cattle" so even if we did just look at new players as cattle to exploit, boy do we take better care of them than you
mad cow dinsdale is at it again
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6795
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Posted - 2014.04.01 21:06:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Yeah, whatever.
I always believe everything a goon tells me.
That has worked so well, for so many.
hilariously there are so many of you "whatever a goon says is a lie" idiots that the finest form of eve-o trolling is simply posting the truth with a goonswarm character and watch as nutcases rush to claim up is down and black is white because a goon said those were not true
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6801
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Posted - 2014.04.02 02:39:00 -
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Vladimir Norkoff wrote:Arthur Aihaken wrote:This is a huge nerf for both carriers and supercarriers because they will have to fit two drone damage amplifiers just to achieve the same DPS. And that's a bad thing? Also, from what I read, only SCs will need the two DDAs. Carriers will just need Interfacing V (which they should already have).
please just remove the carrier skill for anyone who has it but doesn't have interfacing v when you do the skill changes
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6805
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Posted - 2014.04.02 15:25:00 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:
Yes this is a relative buff to the Wyvern, and yes that is intentional. However it's much less of a buff than you seem to think it is because the vast majority of Supercarrier use is in situations where they can refit at will, allowing clever pilots to switch between high tank and high damage fits as needed.
what about that a nyx is now strictly inferior to an aeon?
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6805
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Posted - 2014.04.02 16:31:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Because in a PvE environment, heavies can't be used because the AI implemented to enhance "the player experience" 2 years ago chews them to pieces in seconds.
So the next step, after people are forced to use sentries, is to wreck them, with the Omni demolition, and now this.
goons use heavies nearly exclusively for pve without problems
sounds like you're just bad at this game
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6807
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Posted - 2014.04.02 17:28:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:Because its a stupid change that hurts anybody who doesn't have an established supercapital force?
Because it helps to further stifle the 0.0 environment by further forcing new groups to rely on an existing umbrella?
Because any change that promotes the botting that is ISboxer is bad, and this does exactly that?
your complaint is "isboxer exists" and "bombers exist"
these changes help by making isboxer bombers less effective on fbs sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
6811
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Posted - 2014.04.02 20:00:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:
ISboxer allows one man/woman to flawlessly give X number of accounts the exact same command at the exact same time. How is that not an unfair advantage over other players?
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Any changes to anything that deal with sov should come with a corresponding reduction in sov structure hp.
both of these are eminently reasonable (the latter especially, sov sucks) it is just pretty orthoginal to a thread where isboxer bombing is nerfed somewhat and you can up your dps on uncontested structure shooting over the current
so like i don't get why you're so angry the changes make the things you're annoyed at a little less bad while not even directly targeting them - just going out of the way a little on an unrelated rebalance to tweak things
you should be pleased
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